etuomaala,

consumerism != capitalism

Capitalism is the allowing of control over companies to be bought and sold without the consent of their workers.

Consumerism is using cheap marketing tactics to sell cheap garbage to people who don’t know any better, and is mostly the result of not requiring companies to pay for the waste they create.

Either of these could easily exist without the other.

Stop defining everything you don’t like about the economy as capitalism.

PatFussy,

This is the main problem I have with the people who call for socialism. If you boil it down to what they really want, it usually gets down to “i want free stuff”. They dont want to socialize means of production… most of the time they dont even know what that even means. People conflate social programs with socialism when thats just not the case.

If you truly hate capitalism so much, you will be willing to reduce your paycheck, willing to purchase less, willing to donate your social wealth for the common good.

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