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regul, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]

inb4 the Tories offer tax credits for SUVs

Player2, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]

Tax them all the way to hell

charles, in Chicago Sold it's Parking Meters to Morgan Stanley for 75 years. (The consequences have been terrible)
@charles@lemmy.world avatar

I love Climate Town, but have such a hard time consuming long-form YouTube like that.

anothercatgirl,

it’s under an hour long so I can watch more than one like this during my lunch break. It’s the long form content over an hour long that I have to avoid because it’s usually just vods which severely bore me.

Eq0, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]

I’m glad to see this discussion starting gathering attention. In general, I think we should start looking more and more at car sharing over car owning: nobody needs an SUV every day, but you might enjoy a longer trip driving one. So short term rental should be incentivized to decrease the overall number of cars on the road and parking lots.

doublejay1999, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Attacking SUV drivers is precisely the wrong way to go about reversing the surrender of the public realm to the automobile and it is exactly the right way to start another immature culture war , alienating a lot of potential allies in the fight to reclaim out streets .

biddy,

Perhaps, but polite persuasion hasn’t worked either

Tvkan,

Fully agree. SUVs aren’t bad because they’re a few percent bigger/heavier/safer/less efficient/… than other cars, they’re bad because they are cars.

Many discussions on SUVs in particular give the impression that a “normal” car is somehow the sane, efficient alternative, which just isn’t the case.

papabobolious,

a normal car is a much more sane and efficient alternative, that might be where you are getting that idea.

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

Exactly this. There are some clear use cases for cars and even for SUVs (possibly only if you literally live or work on a large farm). There’s no case for driving an SUV in a city. It’s antisocial behaviour at best and actively threatening at worst!

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Swapping land rovers for golf’s gets us practically nowhere

frankPodmore, (edited )
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

It makes the roads safer and that saves lives. It reduces pollution, saving more lives. It also saves space. That doesn’t save lives, granted, but it’s still a good thing.

If we accept any use cases for cars (and I do, personally), even if it’s primarily in the short to medium term while we build better urban infrastructure, then we should also advocate for those cars to be as small, as safe and as clean as possible.

PlexSheep,

They are bad because they are cars, but in the realms of car usage, they are ultra bad because they are even bigger steel death machines.

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

A street filled with VW Golfs instead of Land rovers, still afforded the vast majority of space in town, still given priority at every turn and still transporting one or two people at a time, doesn’t move us much further forwards .

hellothere, (edited )

As is covered in the article, explaining the environmental impact of SUVs to SUV owners does not change their mind or encourage them to get a different car; it is effectively ignored.

So that is where ideas like the deflators come in, you make it more inconvenient, maybe that will work where polite discussion did not.

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

To be honest, I’m sick of trying to politely persuade people to stop killing other people with their idiotic cars. All cars are bad, yes. SUVs are the worst. It’s perfectly reasonable to try to solve a wicked problem by going for the worst offenders first.

bit_thanos, in Monsters of the road: what should the UK do about SUVs? [The Observer]

Time to buy SUVs :)

MrFlamey,

Dude, you misspelled “burn”

ChaoticNeutralCzech, in Chicago Sold it's Parking Meters to Morgan Stanley for 75 years. (The consequences have been terrible)

What the video doesn’t address: Did the politicians face any consequences?

KnightontheSun,

Yes. Good ones.

comrade_pibb,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

Wild guess: no

djsaskdja, in Chicago Sold it's Parking Meters to Morgan Stanley for 75 years. (The consequences have been terrible)

Break contract. Fuck ‘em

brezelradar,

Better yet: Fuck’em without breaking the contract.

paris,

And then go to court against Morgan Stanley…

I believe they’ve been trying to get out of the contract though which is good, but it’s still easier said than done.

PowerCrazy,

Just claim sovereign immunity, bing boom, so simple. (I have no idea what the consequences of that owuld be, or what the legal outcome would look like.)

SARGEx117,

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  • sadreality,

    Corruption is to make sure nobody in the government does the reasonable thing.

    People believe the system is a lot less corrupt than it really is. Propaganda good

    Konlanx, in CGI Uber ad with 200 seats

    Ah yes, let’s reinvent the train for the billionth time.

    notfromhere, in CGI Uber ad with 200 seats

    Here’s a link to the source to bypass the reddit crap

    t.co/O9jxHGMmFi

    Aopen,
    @Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Nitter to bypass Elon Musk crap too:
    nitter.net/UberUK/status/1720464062725673132

    notfromhere,

    How does nitter work? If it’s just a different front end to Twitter/X then it’s not really a bypass.

    Aopen,
    @Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
    lemann,

    Real train is much more comfortable 👎😍

    Thanks for the direct link

    Aatube,
    @Aatube@kbin.social avatar

    I mean, at least you can dismiss Reddit’s login nag and you can expando without having to visit Reddit

    ElNuevo,
    @ElNuevo@lemmy.lemist.de avatar

    Here’s a link to a privacy-respecting less-shit version:

    nitter.net/UberUK/status/1720464062725673132

    doublepepperoni, in Hi-viz
    @doublepepperoni@hexbear.net avatar

    It really annoys me when I see people on bicycles or e-scooters just browsing Twitter or whatever on their phones. At least people looking at their phones in cars have a steel box around them to protect them from their stupidity

    jakob,

    @doublepepperoni

    Last i saw a racing-biker with about 40km/h... he had such handlebars where he can lean on it to lie almost on his bike... tipping on his smartphone...

    I have always the urge to do a loud scream/shout...

    😁

    @Masimatutu

    Froyn, in Hi-viz

    If they didn't want to get run down by my car, why were they riding on the sidewalk?

    slurpeesoforion, in Hi-viz

    I thought this was more apple versus android shit again.

    teft, in Hi-viz
    @teft@startrek.website avatar

    I saw a guy typing one handed on his moped yesterday…at speed.

    queermunist, in Hi-viz
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    I wear hi-vis to give me a chance in the lawsuit. 🫠

    WalrusDragonOnABike,

    Also to reduce cops trying to tell my to ride at 20mph on the sidewalk...

    anothercatgirl,

    Sidewalk riding is what got me hit by a van in the first place. I’m all healed now.

    lgsp,

    I wear hi-vis just because it’s so cool! 😎

    queermunist,
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    That’s what my LED gear is for - gives me an awesome cyberpunk look at night.

    oo1,
    baseless_discourse,

    RGB makes you bike faster

    YexingTudou,

    Only works if you can survive the f-150 doing 60 in a 25 zone 😌

    Taringano,

    Surviving is temporary. Being right is forever.

    YexingTudou,

    Me walking into the crosswalk seeing the cars with no intent on stopping (state law states they must stop for pedestrians)

    barrbaric,

    Walking into traffic while holding an armed anti-vehicle landmine

    YexingTudou,
    barrbaric,
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