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YourMomsTrashman, in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is
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After going back and forth from Gnome and more traditional DE’s, the latest Cinnamon scratched this itch for me. Shoutouts to the Mint team as well 👍

mike_wooskey, in Navigating around in your shell
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Thanks for these tips.

TheGrandNagus, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?

I like it, but it’s subjective. Just try it for yourself.

I will say though to try it for a bit longer than just a few minutes. The Gnome workflow is very different to the usual Win95-inspired one pretty much everybody else uses out of the box, but once it “clicks” it’s a joy to use.

iAvicenna, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
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Well there is always Scientific Linux if arch doesn’t quite cut it

RmDebArc_5, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?
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It should work on Mint as well, but the theming may be off you will probably have to redo Icons and such. Just FYI, XFCE can totally look like Gnome (look at rhino Linux) if you theme it. You may consider installing the SaveDesktop app and redoing your XFCE setup (the unixporn community has some great inspiration)

const_void, in Package up and transport a linux?

Reinstalling is Windows-user logic. Also why start with Arch Linux of all distros.

UnRelatedBurner,

friends used it, tryied it, stuck with it. But wdym Windows user logic? What do I do when I brick something?

luthis,

It’s really hard to [accidentally] permanently break Linux to the point of requiring a reinstall.

Here’s a really good tip: Keep a live distro (I use Mint) on a USB drive. If something real bad happens, you can boot into the live distro, and chroot into your OS and do the repairs you need. While also having a live distro with web access and a browser to help.

I broke my GRUB once (or twice) and fixed it again this way.

Keep a backup of your /boot folder, GRUB (or equivalent) configs, etc, also check documentation on Arch wiki for boot process. 99.9% of the time you should be able to fix things to at least get to a TTY after boot.

UnRelatedBurner,

That takes stress off of my back. But does not solve the problem, that I’d like an identically configured portable system (my laptop). :/

I do have live USBs laying around, thanks for the tip.

MigratingtoLemmy, in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is

Anybody with experience with Cagebreak? I like ratpoison but maybe not having to port a lot of configuration by hand would be nice

Oisteink, in Package up and transport a linux?

Perhaps add config files to a git repo somewhere. Then you will have a copy and can sync in changes. Keep it private though

UnRelatedBurner,

Not a bad Idea, if I knew where all the configs and everything are, which I don’t.

bizdelnick, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?

Why do you ask? Install it as a second DE and give it a try. You can alvays switch back if you don’t like it.

IsoKiero, in Any experience with teaching kids Linux?

My sons are in that age bracket and when they requested a laptops for themselves (older sister got one for school stuff) I “borrowed” decommissioned thinkpads from work, threw empty ssd’s on them and gave computers to boys with linux mint installer on usb-stick. Younger one got it running in couple of hours without any help and is actively learning on how to use the thing, yesterday he told me how he had learned to open software using keyboard shortcuts and in general is interested about the tinkering aspect of things. Older one has a bit more pragmatic approach, he got the installation done as well but he’s not interested about the computer itself as it’s just a tool to listen to a music, look up for tutorials for his other interests and things like that.

Both cases are of course equally valid and I’m just happy that they are willing to learn things beyond just pushing the buttons. But I’m also (secretly) happy that my youngest shares my interests and he’s been doing simple games with scratch and in general shows interest on how the computers, networking and other stuff actually works.

alt, (edited ) in Package up and transport a linux?

I don’t know by heart if it’s able to do your bidding, but perhaps it’s worth checking out penguins-eggs. I guess the following would be its elevator pitch:

“penguins-eggs is a console tool, under continuous development, that allows you to remaster your system and redistribute it as live images on usb sticks or via PXE.

The default behavior is total removal of the system’s data and users, but it is also possible to remaster the system including the data and accounts of present users, using flag --clone. It is also possible to keep the users and files present under an encrypted LUKS file within the same resulting iso file, flag --cryptedclone.

You can easily install the resulting live system with the calamares installer or the internal TUI krill installer.”

UnRelatedBurner,

This sounds scary, but an option! I’ll put it at the end of the list, thanks!

rufus, (edited ) in Any experience with teaching kids Linux?

For reference about 4 year olds: lifehacker.com/i-raised-my-kids-on-the-command-li…

I think I read his blog back then. Telling about the progress his (then) very young son made. How he didn’t install a graphical user interface at first but the kid loved ‘sl’ (the steam locomotive if you mistype ‘ls’), and cowsay and so on. And they had a command-line chat to communicate (or just smash buttons).

30p87, in Any experience with teaching kids Linux?

My father was lucky, I wanted a minecraft server so bad that I accepted to learn how to handle an Ubuntu Server, with ~10 years.
Then I kinda had my edgy hacking phase with 12, and installed Kali as dual boot.
As my Windows install got older, dirtier and buggier, I decided to just f it and installed Pop over everything.

So, get them to be interested in having/doing something requiring Linux, then show them the wonders of the Linux desktop, preferably not Kali, but something more user friendly, and finally wait till they want to reinstall for whatever reason, like a new PC (with AMD or Intel GPU).

squaresinger, in Any experience with teaching kids Linux?

Don’t start with the tinkering aspect first.

Ask yourself, why does your kid use Windows?

Probably to play games, access the internet and maybe do their homework. Most probably, they don’t use Windows because they specifically enjoy working with Windows, but because it easily lets them do whatever they actually want to do on a PC.

Spending 5h on fixing some weird incompatibility between the Nvidia GPU, your DE and Proton might be fun for some, but it’s most probably not what your kid wants to do when they could be gaming or doing whatever they actually want to do. Problems like that can scare them off quickly.

So first setup the PC so that everything they usually do on Windows works without issues.

The next question is, why would your kid want to run Linux instead of Windows?

The usual advantages (FOSS, free to use, better for developers) don’t really matter to most kids. The only things I can think of right now are:

  • Runs on PCs that aren’t Win11 compatible
  • Some games like Minecraft run faster (but some games also run slower)

With the setup completed and advantages thought of, you can let the kid use Linux quite similarly to Windows. When the kid wants new software or has an issue, work together with them to get everything running. First do everything and let them watch, later let them do more and more of the process.

That’s basically it.

Laborer2125, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

I’ve used Ubuntu for many years, it is a good start for beginners. Although my new recommendations is Mint.

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