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tsl, in Does anybody use Thunderbird on Android a.k.a. K-9

I’ve been using it for many years with my four mailboxes and I am very happy with it!

knobbysideup, (edited ) in Does anybody use Thunderbird on Android a.k.a. K-9

Used to. Prefer Aquamail. I’m a thunderbird user on my workstation though. The latest changes were controversial, but it’s fine once you enable the system title bar and hide the menu bar.

xinayder,

Which changes, care to elaborate?

rhythmisaprancer, in [Old 1997 story] The Greatest OS That (N)ever Was
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This is funny because 2008 is also when I got stuck on it. Interesting read, thanks for sharing!

CalcProgrammer1, in Anyone have experience with Intel Arc GPUs?
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I’ve been running an A770 Limited Edition on Arch for a year now and I am happy with it now. It was a rough start, with issues ranging from glitches and crashes to HDMI and DisplayPort audio/VRR issues, but these days it is pretty solid. VRR works fine on my DisplayPort 144Hz 4K monitor. Most games perform pretty well but temper your expectations, the A770 is a midrange card.

I can play Overwatch 2 at 4K 144Hz low settings just fine and I don’t see many frame dips. It’s not noticeable if it does dip because VRR. CS2 performance isn’t amazing, but at low settings 4K I get between 100 and 160 frames depending on complexity. I have FSR turned on. On Cyberpunk I have FSR turned on and it seems to dip down to 20fps when out in the desert and the city is in view, but usually 40 to 60.

Kaidao,

Thanks for this. I’m on 1440p so hopefully the performance will be a bit better. The A770 seems like it has great price to performance though, making it one of the top spots on my list.

Glad to hear that support is solid on Arch

CalcProgrammer1,
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I upgraded from a 1440p 144Hz screen last month. It works well with 1440p and you won’t need to rely on FSR as much as on a 4K 144 screen.

SteveTech,

I wasn’t able to enable VRR on my monitor (with freesync). I’m using KDE Wayland on Debian Testing, just wondering if you knew a workaround or something?

CalcProgrammer1,
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What kernel are you using? Debian tends to lag behind with kernel updates which makes it a bad choice when running new hardware. I switched from Debian to Arch when I got my A770 because at the time Debian’s latest kernel even in sid didn’t support Arc at all while it worked fine in Arch.

hellvolution,
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Do you know you can add testing, sid, experimental repositories, right? Sid & experimental have super new kernels/versions…

SteveTech,

I’m running 6.5.10, also with an A770. I could maybe try/compile 6.6 later, but 6.5 seems new enough I thought.

CalcProgrammer1,
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Hmm, 6.5 should support VRR just fine yeah

SteveTech,

Yeah no change with 6.6, I guess I’ll probably open an issue somewhere when I have the time to figure out what’s broken.

CalcProgrammer1,
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Just to make sure, you’re using DisplayPort right? I don’t think the Arc cards support VRR over HDMI. The HDMI port on the Arc is actually a built in DisplayPort to HDMI converter, and I don’t think any converter chips support VRR modes.

SteveTech,

Yep, it’s definitely using DisplayPort!

SteveTech, (edited )

Okay so for whatever reason, turning Freesync on and off a bunch of times from the OSD and then replugging works until the next reboot, so I’ve dumped the working EDID and I’m trying to figure out how to load it at boot (but I’m not having much luck).

For reference, the monitor is a Samsung LC24RG50.

Edit: Got the EDID loaded, KDE says it’s supported, but VRRTest doesn’t really seem to do anything.

Edit 2: Other games work fine.

Static_Rocket,
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Yeah, I’ve noticed occasional regressions in video decode performance between kernel releases but they tend to fix them in the next release.

Otherwise smoother sailing than Nvidia for sure.

jakepi, in Am I going off the deep end by considering Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite?

Have you checked out OpenSUSE MicroOS at all? It’s similar to Silverblue. Runs great on my Framework 13 with Intel 13th Gen.

I wouldn’t be too concerned with “officially” supported Linux on the Framework. It is a very Linux friendly machine. The folks they have supporting Linux are active in the Framework forums and very helpful.

I eventually went back to my tried and true Debain. I loved the immutable OS thing for all the reasons people have listed here. My one issue was direct access to external devices can be a pain. IE: I just could not get USB passthrough working with virt-viewer after all my fiddiling.

brax, in I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

I tried btop. It slowed my computer way the fuck down, so I went back to htop

Rin,

really? I’ve never had much issues

brax,

My laptop went bonkers trying to run it, maybe I have something misconfigured somewhere. I wanted to like it because it looks great, but I couldn’t because it was seemingly too resource intensive.

Rin,

i see, that’s a bit of a shame because i enjoy it a lot.

brax,

Somebody mentioned I may have been running bpytop, so maybe this whole thing is my bad. I honestly can’t remember what I ran now - I thought it was btop

vox, (edited )
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yeah you need a decently fast hw accelerated terminal for it
for example, the gnome terminal is pretty slow; if you’re using it, try running it in alacrity or kitty and see if that improves performance.

brax,

I’ll have to check it out. I’ve seen kitty mentioned a few times but I’m an oldschool xterm kinda guy lol

lelgenio,
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Maybe you used bpytop, not btop? They look the same iirc.

brax,

Oh, you might actually be right there… I’m not sure now I didn’t realize there were alternatives.

I remember trying it a while back when I found a list of fancy looking terminal apps. It was fancy, but it came at the cost of performance.

kjo, in Does anybody use Thunderbird on Android a.k.a. K-9
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I do. It suffice.

guitarsarereal, (edited ) in Am I going off the deep end by considering Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite?

Immutability is useful from a sysadmin standpoint because it solves a couple problems. It’s a little easier to secure a system if you can know that, in fact, files outside the home directory have not been modified, and also, it’s a little easier to keep systems running because programs can’t just shit on each other’s files etc.

Unless these two are problems for you, you’re signing up to re-learn how to use Linux, and tbh not very elegantly, for basically no real gains at this time. Immutability has potential as a concept, but Red Hat’s approach is super weird and not very efficient. They have a tool that allows you to manage filesystem trees, and then they extended this tool with RPM to allow you to compose custom filesystem trees at install/upgrade time. This approach, in my experience, is shockingly inefficient if you need to add any custom packages to your base tree and you install updates with any frequency.

If you’re a sysadmin rolling out updates to workstations maybe once a month, these aren’t really issues, but for daily use, it didn’t seem worth it to me just yet, especially since we don’t really have any neat separation of code and config like you get with Docker. You can’t just zip up your home directory and move it to a new Silverblue installation and have your user back yet (there’s work in this direction with systemd-homed, likely once it’s good enough this will become standard, but also, that’s not an “immutability” feature). I believe /etc is mounted rw, which is a step in this direction, but until lots of stateful stuff gets moved out of /etc that isn’t going to be portable in the same way a Docker config is.

EDIT For a comparison of a different approach to immutability that includes a different bundle of tradeoffs, you can also look at OpenSUSE’s MicroOS. The TL;DR is that it’s easier to customize the base system, but it locks you into btrfs and it’s not as robust overall – ypsidanger.com/comparing-opensuse-microos-to-fedo…discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/…/3

thayer, (edited )

I just wanted to point out that you pretty much can just tarball your user directory and drop it into a fresh system. If you embrace the Flatpak and container-based workflow, it’s incredibly easy to be up and running in no time. Obviously, containers and flatpaks aren’t unique to image-based distros, but are perhaps less common in traditional distros.

Sure, you’ll need to add a printer back, or reconnect to wifi networks, but your user and/or dev environment will carry over, and with a couple of commands, any package overlays and flatpaks will be reinstalled and ready to go.

I found flatpaks and containerization to be the only real learning curve with Silverblue, and only because I hadn’t used them previously. Compared to the learning curve and unorthodox approach of NixOS, Silverblue itself is as easy as using vanilla Fedora Workstation.

guitarsarereal, (edited )

I mean, is this true in any way that hasn’t been true of Linux since nearly forever? You can always put your /home folder on a separate partition, install a new system, and as long as you make sure the UID of your new user matches the UID of the old user, the process is exactly the same. Just reinstall your apps and you’re good to go. I used to do this to keep configuration/data between reinstalls. EDIT – as opposed to a genuinely stateless user config, as systemd-homed is working towards

Railcar8095,

There difference is, to flatpaks and containers are in home, so you keep those even after a fresh install of you keep home.

It’s freaking great, specially in a work machine, to reinstall after breaking something and be able to just continue almost as if nothing had happened.

revv, in Does anybody use Thunderbird on Android a.k.a. K-9

I like it. My only issue with it is that it doesn’t seem to want to download attached (vs remote) images automatically.

oshitwaddup, in A Nautilus Sucks Donkeyballs Linux Rant
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Thunar

TheAnonymouseJoker,
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phanto,

Thunar

flashgnash,

Thunar?

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Thunar.

Cwilliams,

Thunar

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted, in Does anybody use Thunderbird on Android a.k.a. K-9
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I do not, but only because I use ProtonMail and don’t have premium so I don’t have IMAP/SMTP bridging.

I used it all the time back around 2011/2012 and it was pretty great, but that was admittedly a long time ago so I imagine lots have changed since them.

rufus, (edited ) in [Discussion] Git - How is it classified?

I think there isn’t really something “authoritative” in Git. You can upload your changes somewhere or another developer can download changes from you. You can also all make incompatible changes and then you won’t be able to sync it anymore (you’d need to fix that first and manually handle the conflict). There’s nothing authoritive in it. In practice most people choose a central place and all upload their changes there and everybody else regularly pulls them from there. But you could as well directly do it with the computer of your colleague if you have a network connection and access to it. Files including history of changes are the same on every machine and server. (If they’re all up to date). It’s like storing a directory including past versions on 10 different computers.

DavidGarcia, in 10 REASONS why Linux Mint is the desktop OS to beat in 2023

I never ”got" why people like Mint so much. it is mid

BautAufWasEuchAufbaut,
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I think mid translates to reliable and boring. Which is desirable for an OS.

Diplomjodler,

Exactly. I want my OS to be as fucking boring as humanly possible.

onion,

Is it more or less boring than Fedora

mindbleach,

Low bullshit quotient. No sudden garbage.

I switched when one guy unilaterally decided Ubuntu would completely flip its user interface, for no goddamn reason, the night before a long-term-support feature freeze.

Diplomjodler, (edited )

Mint is for people who just want stuff to work and not fiddle about too much. It does that very well. Anyone who simply wants an alternative to Windows that is easy to get into and use will be perfectly happy with it. If you want to customise everything to a t, Mint isn’t for you

Lamb,

EndeavourOS is the most simple to work with distro I’ve had. Ubuntu-based and Fedora all were trouble. OpenSUSE was fine but I prefer terminal centric (not saying you cannot use terminal on it). EndeavourOS is amazing. I just yay to update and all works.

yote_zip,
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Arch is bleeding edge and frequently has minor bugs as a result. This is probably fine for power users and people who want to learn Linux but I wouldn’t give an Arch distro to someone who isn’t techy. They also likely won’t appreciate the frequent updates to applications that they depend on to actually do work.

(I used Arch for almost five years and think it’s one of the best distros)

TheGrandNagus,

It’s reliable, customisable, everything is doable in a GUI, and has a Windows UX that people are familiar with.

yote_zip,
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It’s simple and solid enough to give to people who don’t know what they’re doing, and its Debian/Ubuntu base makes it flexible enough to not slow down power users who want to start modifying it. Other distros that might fit this bill keep shooting themselves in the foot and going off in weird directions, while Linux Mint has been a reputable no-BS distro for a very long time. It’s a workhorse distro without any gimmicks and that’s the point.

confusedwiseman,

Mint was my “gateway distro” to get away from windows as a daily driver. It still is my daily driver and it’s given me enough guardrails to not screw it up too badly and learn.

I’m looking to go further up stream towards Debian. I’ve looked at arch and “arch that’s not allowed to be called arch because it has a gui installer”, but I’m not ready/able/“risk-tolerant-enough” to keep that stable as my daily driver. Fedora dormant seem quite right for me.

I really like mint, it meets my needs, has treated me well.

SpookyOperative,

I’m curious to know what arch-based distro you’re talking about?

folkrav,

Has to be Manjaro or EndeavourOS. If they’re just getting their teeth in, my guess is on the former.

confusedwiseman,

I looked at Manjaro VERY briefly, and I played with Endeavor a bit. I installed several distros as VMs just to poke around. I found Debian familiar which is likely the main reason I find myself leaning that way.

folkrav, (edited )

I use Mint, PopOS, or Arch/EndeavourOS more or less interchangeably. I’ve sincerely never had any issues with Arch’s stability. The term “stable” when describing a distro refers more to the package versions than system stability or overall reliability. Things aren’t necessarily broken cause they’re more up to date. Back in 2020, my laptop didn’t play well with Ubuntu 20.04 because of some power management issue caused by a kernel bug. My only real option was getting off of LTS and switching to 20.10 which had a newer fixed kernel version. So in effect, the Ubuntu LTS was less “stable” for me because of them keeping the kernel version stable.

YMMV, obviously, but most of what I’m doing when doing a fresh install is installing the packages I need, and configuring them. I can do this pretty much regardless of the distro. Most of the difference is if those packages are available in the first place, and how I’ll have to install them if they aren’t in the base repositories. Configs/dotfiles are usually pretty portable. The rest is just well… Linux as usual.

p5f20w18k,
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I went Win > Mint > Manjaro (for a day) > Arch

CalicoJack,

From experience, ignore your instincts and give pure Arch a try. It’s a lot more stable than you’d think, and their wiki has very thorough instructions for everything.

It’s a bit of a trial by fire on your terminal knowledge, but you’ll learn a ton in the process. Worst case, you get fed up trying and just go to Fedora or something after.

jackpot,
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i dont have the energy or patience to go to a wiki for my OS, i just want it to work and not be proprietary. besides setting up wine staging and pipewire it’s generally been smooth sailing

confusedwiseman,

I’m with you here, sometimes I’m really lazy and don’t want to mess with it. Other times I’m hell-bent on doing something I know how to do in a GUI through terminal.

Mint has let me keep my system OS rock solid, and I’m not afraid to try about anything in the vm. Reinstall when time permits or just roll back to a snapshot.

I’ve got time shift installed, but I use my computer for work, so there’s some draw to stability and having everything just work.

CaptDust,

You can go to the wiki, or you can search random forums and stack overflow like normal when things go sideways 🤷‍♂️

confusedwiseman,

I’m sure it’d be fine, I’m probably not willing to put in the right amount of effort. I think a big fear for me is I use the computer for work, and while I have others, I prefer this one. I may not have the 15-30min to research and resolve something I did to myself.

I also try not to be the person who asks for help on the same question for the 17th time.

So far I’ve always been able to find answers in documentation or communities. Turns out I’m not so unique. ;).

LeFantome,

I would echo that but suggest going to EndevourOS. EOS is a lot easier to install for normal people. What you get is insanely close to pure Arch.

I agree that running Arch is easier than people think. It is very stable. Also, because everything you could want is in the repositories ( and up-to-date ) it does not become a spaghetti like mess over time. No more third-party repos. No more PPAs.

HumanPerson,

Why not lmde if you want something closer to Debian?

confusedwiseman,

Thanks for this recommendation as it’s potentially a logical step. I’ve thought about this but not researched it enough, yet. I don’t understand enough about the differences yet. Hypothetically, do I need or want Mint on Debian, or do I just want to get the real deal? Not posing the question to you, just what I’ve yet to research further. Mint is currently working fine for me, so there’s no rush.

HumanPerson,

Going straight to Debian isn’t hard. LMDE might have newer packages, IDK. I used Debian 12 for a bit and still use it on my server. Mint offers a great stock experience but Debian has a hard to explain vanilla coolness if you will. I would also recommend considering OpenSUSE if you haven’t looked at it.

gunpachi,

It just works. Whenever anyone I know tells me they are going to install ubuntu or try out linux for the first time - I just tell them to install linux mint and they’ve had no complaints so far.

(Even though I only use mint as a fallback distro, I really appreciate it being there)

Gargantu8,

How do you think it compares to Pop!_OS?

Aggravationstation,

I could never get Pop OS working. The first apt upgrade would delete everything and I’d be unable to boot.

Gargantu8,

Weird! For me it’s been the most stable distro by far.

Aggravationstation,

Ah well. I’ve since become

Gargantu8,

Absolutely love Debian!

gunpachi,

I have not used pop recently. To be fair both are kind of similar, at least base wise. So one cannot go wrong with any of the two. I like the traditional layout of cinnamon better than Gnome (out of the box) so I’ll pick Mint.

Gargantu8,

Yeah I think they are both great. My favorite destro is distro hopping lol

JustCopyingOthers, in Does anybody use Thunderbird on Android a.k.a. K-9

For me it’s good, let’s me leave emails on the server so my desktop can read them too. Let’s me reply below or above and compose in ascii. Doesn’t impose ways of working I don’t want.

makingStuffForFun, in Does anybody use Thunderbird on Android a.k.a. K-9
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I have 4 accounts and it works as it should. Lots of options. It’s a complete mail system

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