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marionberrycore, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

About a year ago I somehow fucked up installing a new window manager on my tablet so badly I had to start from scratch - to this day I have no idea what happened there, but it just wouldn’t boot properly or anything after that 🤷 I needed it for school pretty quickly though so my top priority was getting it working again, so I set up a fresh install instead of continuing to fuck around.

Not the same level of destruction, but I fucked up my first ever install a couple months in trying to resolve dependencies related to python and wine, which is why I’m more interested in sandboxing whenever feasible these days. After only two months I guess I had been fucking around with linux long enough to have a little too much unearned confidence, lol

HuntressHimbo, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

So I am sort of an embedded developer, and I like to mess around with weird configurations. So the craziest experiment I did was trying to reflash a rasberry pi from a system running in the pi’s RAM. It honestly might have worked, but during the prep work I forgot to resize the filesystem before mucking with the paritions and had to reflash the normal way before I could try again. Ended up just turning it into a pihole instead, but I still learned a lot about pivot_root

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted, (edited ) in [QUESTION] I installed Apache OpenOffice
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

All these people saying “Just use LibreOffice” are missing the point: if they ask about a program, then that means they have a usecase for said program.

This isn’t StackExchange; let’s not repeat that cycle.


Edit: Changed “is” to “are”. Lol.

InternetCitizen2,

Sure, but they may also be unaware OpenOffice is unmaintained and its worth pointing out.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Then those people should say that as an addendum or side-note to an attempted answer to OP’s question, not as a replacement for said attempted answer.

pixelscript,

I admire the respect you have for those who ask questions like this, but I think I disagree.

If there is something egregiously wrong with the premise of what a person is seeking to do, and there are no qualifying statements in their query about why they do in fact need to do this specifiic thing in this specific way, chances are high that they are uneducated about why the premise of what they’re trying to do is flawed, and they are best served by being course corrected. Giving them the answer they’re looking for to continue the bad thing while hiding your suggestion of what they should be doing instead in a footnote is just enabling them to double down on the short term path of least resistance that will probably come back to bite them again later.

If they really did know what they were doing with regards to doing an otherwise unsafe and/or unsupported thing, or if the restrictions tied their hands from using the obvious replacement solution, it either should have appeared in their question prompt, or it should be in the first replies to the first round of answers.

I say, withhold outdated advice unless the context of the conversation makes it explicitly clear that the old advice is genuinely required and not substitutable with current advice. But also don’t be smug, rude, dismissive, or standoffish about it. Don’t argue with someone who says they really do need a specific solution.

That said, this only applies in really cut and dry cases like this one, where there very clearly is an indisputable thing you shouldn’t be doing, and a drop-in replacement you should be using. The ones I hate are moreso those you may see on StackOverflow where the question is like, “how do I do <X> in JavaScript?” and five of the seven responses including the accepted answer offer a solution in some big dumb framework or lib that they apparently expect you to just incorporate into your project.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted, (edited )
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If there is something egregiously wrong with the premise of what a person is seeking to do, and there are no qualifying statements in their query about why they do in fact need to do this specifiic thing in this specific way, chances are high that they are uneducated about why the premise of what they’re trying to do is flawed …

You are probably right about this. Still, as I said to another user, I just feel it’s a bit of a slippery slope from a stance of concern to full-blown-StackOverflow-ignoring-the-question.

If they really did know what they were doing with regards to doing an otherwise unsafe and/or unsupported thing, or if the restrictions tied their hands from using the obvious replacement solution, it either should have appeared in their question prompt, or it should be in the first replies to the first round of answers.

I can agree with this.

That said, this only applies in really cut and dry cases like this one, where there very clearly is an indisputable thing you shouldn’t be doing, and a drop-in replacement you should be using. The ones I hate are moreso those you may see on StackOverflow where the question is like, “how do I do in JavaScript?” and five of the seven responses including the accepted answer offer a solution in some big dumb framework or lib that they apparently expect you to just incorporate into your project.

Fair enough.

Truth be told, I work in customer service, and have very little tolerance for bullshit, so I’m genuinely surprised to find myself as patient and giving-the-benefit-of-the-doubt as I am being. I guess this thread just reminded me a bit too much of the days of 2015. Lol.


Edit: Shit. Forgot to add the > at the quote at the top. My bad.

acid_falcon,

You’re not wrong, and I’m upvoting everything you say because I hate the smug SO people who ask why instead of actually trying to help.

But in this specific case, there’s literally no reason to use OpenOffice, it’s discontinued. People shouldn’t have to explain how to use a defunct software with an addendum.

It’s not an obscure programming language with an edge case, it’s a word processor.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You’re not wrong, and I’m upvoting everything you say because I hate the smug SO people who ask why instead of actually trying to help.

Yeah, I hate those people too. I appreciate the support.

But in this specific case, there’s literally no reason to use OpenOffice, it’s discontinued. People shouldn’t have to explain how to use a defunct software with an addendum.

It’s not an obscure programming language with an edge case, it’s a word processor.

I can see where you’re coming from. Still, I personally try to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume until demonstrated otherwise that they have considered alternatives and decided their current program is best for their particular usecase.

Is it naïve? Possibly. I fully admit that possibility.

merthyr1831,

This is only correct when the software in question isnt abandonware from 2014

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Eh, I can see where you’re coming from, certainly, but I feel it’s a slippery slope from this stance to full-blown StackOverflow levels of ignoring-the-question.

ArmainAP, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

Somehow I found ways to remove and break the GUI multiple times in multiple ways in multiple distros.

Different scenarios, different times, different issues trying to “fix”. My usual fix after this was always to copy what I think I still had important and then move on with a reinstall.

Recently I have been playing with ZorinOS and broke it in the same way by fidgeting with pipewire. Distro hoped to Fedora Silverblue due to the immutable filesystem. I wonder if I will break this one in a way I cannot revert it easily with rpm-ostree. I almost feel challenged.

pup_atlas, in How to fool a laptop into thinking a monitor is connected?

You can attach a fake one in software via XVFB (X Virtual Frame Buffer). It’s a little involved if you aren’t familiar with X, but it only took me an hour or so to get setup. Then you don’t need any hardware at all, and can set whatever resolution you’d like.

Head, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

I deleted the entire taskbar.

MTK, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

sudo apt autoremove

Who ever made this shit and then decided to always show you this message that you should do it. What a dick

9tr6gyp3, in XPipe status update: New scripting system, advanced SSH support, performance improvements, and many bug fixes

Wow this is kind of a cool project. This is the first im hearing about it.

Will definitely check it out. Thanks for making it 🙂

ulterno, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I’m not sure how funny this will be, but here’s how I broke my system twice in a single case. Step by step:

  1. Migrated from Manjaro KDE to EndeavourOS KDE. Kept the previous home directory.
  2. After a few updates, there was a problem with Plasma. Applications were not starting from the panels or the .desktop files (they worked from the terminal. The terminal emulator was in startup and worked that way)
  3. After a few google searches, found out that downgrading glibc would do something, so downgraded… Worked for a while
  4. While using pacman -Syu, I always checked for warnings (foolishly thinking that the downgraded and ignored glibc would cause a pacman warning if it broke dependencies) and there were none. So, the updated OS stopped working due to unmatched glibc. BREAK 1
  5. To fix it, I opened one of my multiple boots (another EndeavourOS) and made a script using pacman -Ql and cp to copy new glibc related files into the broken system (because I was too lazy to learn how to do it the correct way with pacman and chroot didn’t work because glibc is needed by bash).
  6. Turned out the script I made was wrong and I hadn’t checked the intermediate output from pacman -Ql, which was telling cp to copy the whole /etc /usr and other directories. (just if I hadn’t given the -r to cp) BREAK 2

In the end, I just made a new installation, this time with a new home and hand-picked whatever settings I wanted from the previous home, Viva la multi-HDD

comiconomenclaturist, in How to fool a laptop into thinking a monitor is connected?

I had an old laptop that I removed the screen from and it still booted. Perhaps if your screen has broken in a way that the GPU detects as a hardware failure, it might prevent booting? Maybe removing the screen entirely might solve the issue? Or at least disconnecting the internal cable from the screen to the motherboard…

tubbadu,

Yes I already disconnected if, but still nothing :(

papertowels, in What's (are) the funniest/stupidest way(s) you've broken your linux setup?

Not strictly Linux related, but in college I was an IT assistant. One day I was given a stack of drives to run through dariks boot and nuke.

I don’t remember exactly what happened, but I think midway through, my laptop shut off.

Guess who picked the wrong drive to wipe with DBAN :)

flashgnash, in Follow-up to installing Arch

Installing arch on OneDrive is an entertaining concept

Hellmo_Luciferrari,

But Microsoft would cuck your Arch install if it were somehow installed onto onedrive D’:

flashgnash,

It would still somehow manage to overwrite whatever would pass for a boot loader

isgleas, in How to fool a laptop into thinking a monitor is connected?

It sounds like the issue is with the lid latch/sensor, not with the graphics. Some laptops may not boot if the lid is closed, and some have options on the firmware to enable to boot when the lid is closed / on a docking station.

tubbadu,

I don’t think this is the problem, as it refuses to boot even when the lid is open

isgleas,

That is why I also mentioned the latch/sensor, it may got stuck.

tubbadu,

What do you mean? Like if the lid is open, but it thinks it’s closed?

kevincox,
@kevincox@lemmy.ml avatar

This seems unlikely since it boots with a monitor attached. From past experience most laptops that refuse to boot while closed don’t boot even if an HDMI display is connected.

dino, in What software is best to have in a flatpak on tumbleweed?

Never use flatpaks for stuff available in your packet manager…

Jonnsy,

Why not aren’t flatpaks safer. I removed firefox on tumbleweed and installed the flatpak because its updated faster.

RageAgainstTheRich,

You’re right. Don’t listen to the dumbdumb.

FangedWyvern42, in what's a normie KDE distro?
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

Kubuntu, KDE neon, Debian with KDE.

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