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derpgon, in Based KDE 🗿

Do Android next!

nanders,

Try LineageOS

derpgon,

I’d prefer a solution out of the box. I am well aware of alternative OSes.

aberrate_junior_beatnik,

murena.com (no affiliation, do not own one)

derpgon,

Just skimming through the website, I noticed they use their own Drive solution. Quickly glancing at the images, and it seemed oddly familiar.

And holy shit it they use the exact same setup I set up at work - NextCloud with OnlyOffice integration.

This seems nice.

Laborer2125, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

I’ve used Ubuntu for many years, it is a good start for beginners. Although my new recommendations is Mint.

Paragone, in Which Desktop / Window Manager is most secure?

IF by “security” one means bugs have been prevented from living in it, there is one coded in Haskell, it may be named XMonad or something…

( … digging … )

Yep:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmonad

from there:

“Due to the small number of lines of code of the Xmonad application, the use of the purely functional programming language Haskell, and recorded use of a rigorous testing procedure it is sometimes used as a baseline application in other research projects. This has included re-implementation of xmonad using the Coq proof assistant,[31] a determination xmonad is an imperative program,[32] and studies of package management relating to the NixOS linux distribution.[33]”

Dig: 2000-ish lines of code.

xmonad.org

xmonad.org/documentation.html

nayminlwin, in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is

That’s just the difference between desktop environments and window managers. Window managers are just one part of a full featured DE. Deciding to use a specific WM means you have to install and configure several things you expects and takes for granted from complete DEs.

KseniyaK, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

Well, I eventually got bored of Arch and installed Gentoo this summer. I enjoyed it 😎.

PS. I wish there was a Gentoo emoji.

maniacalmanicmania,
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You could use the eggplant emoji if you flip it both ways.

uis,
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demesisx, (edited ) in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is
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I use xmonad as my main WM, so Hyprland would be a very easy transition. I would have switched by now but I just love Haskell

so much.

I’m not talented enough to port Hyprland to Haskell (at least the configuration aspect) but I wish someone wanted to do that. What I like about xmonad is that its core is actually formally verified.

I use Arch BTW. jk

dino, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

This is so ooooold. :D

mortalic,

Sometimes people need reminders because they forget how much work they put in.

rorschah, in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is
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Same here. being subscribed to unixporn community, hyprland always makes me wanna try it. but everytime i did, i just couldn’t make it as my norm. Then i return to my good old Gnome.

(what sereral months of DE/WM hopping made me realize was i am not good at using WM’s. The only one i used atleast few months was openbox in archcraft )

noddy, in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is

I agree. Even though I use extensions for dock, desktop icons and appindicators, I respect the Gnome devs for keeping things opinionated. It allows them to focus on implementing core functionality well, rather than having to support every customization option, which would clutter the settings and slow down development.

wfh,

Exactly. KDE people praise its flexibility and tweakability, but I feel it tries to cater at too many use cases at once, and looks much harder to maintain as it always felt buggy and a bit janky to me.

Gnome devs may have very strong opinions and that seems to anger some people, but their approach is actually the best for small teams: focus on a single use case, make it as polished as possible, and let users develop extensions to cater to their own use cases.

fossisfun,
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In my opinion Plasma has gotten much better with the last couple of releases. Around 5.21 the defaults actually got pretty good and since 5.24 Wayland support is quite good, on par with GNOME in my opinion.

After using GNOME Shell for a decade I have recently switched to Plasma 5.27 on my desktop due to its VRR support (I have two 170 Hz QHD monitors). A couple of weeks later I also moved my laptops to Plasma, even though I wanted to keep GNOME on them, since Plasma has gotten so nice!

Just wanted to give a heads-up in case you haven’t tried Plasma in the last couple of years. ;) But especially if you rely on dynamic workspaces and don’t want to adapt your workflow (like I did when I switched to Plasma), there’s just no alternative to GNOME and it has gotten really polished and nice as well.

cole,
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How are touchpad gestures? Gnome rocks there

fossisfun,
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They aren’t as natural. E. g. you have to swipe the same direction to open or close the window overview, whereas with GNOME the animation actually follows the direction your fingers are swiping. But they at least reliably trigger the action you want to execute.

Since Plasma doesn’t have dynamic workspaces, I use it completely differently than GNOME anyways. E. g. I don’t make use of workspaces and use minimise instead. Therefore touchpad gestures on Plasma are much less relevant to me than on GNOME at the moment.

Sentau, (edited )

They are usable but nowhere as good as gnome’s implementation. Fortunately this seems to be improving with plasma 6. One of the devs inspired by gnome has implemented gnome-like swipe gestures and a similar workspaces overview

Lulzagna, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

Use endeavour if you’re new

AlmightySnoo, in Mandrake Linux 10.0, from 2004. They still work too. Had to buy them on disc, slow dialup internet in those days.
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Ubuntu used to ship free CDs too: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ubuntu_10.04_CDs.jpg

They stopped doing that in 2011.

johsny,
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56_,
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Are the forum and documentation links the wrong way round?

Davel23,

No, you had to read the documentation to learn how to access the forums, and you had to ask on the forums how to access the documentation.

Aatube,
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(/s)

johsny,
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Sharp eye, I never noticed that in 20 years.

aard,
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A few years before Ubuntu quite a few companies tried doing their own distributions. Back then it still was common to sell them in a proper software box - CDs or DVDs, manuals and some swag, at minimum stickers, but quite often also pins or some other stuff.

On exhibitions they’d often give away full boxes to get people to try - sometimes the current version, sometimes the last release. I still have a bunch of those in the garage - I think Corel (yes, the painting program guys) should be one of them.

Pantherina, in Ubuntu Linux Squeezes ~20% More Performance Than Windows 11 On New AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Review

Do a Gentoo test with correct compilation parameters! Or just Arch, Fedora or Opensuse Tumbleweed okay.

RavuAlHemio, in ISC DHCP Client and Relay End of Maintenance

On Arch, the client is in the dhclient package, which is generally also the name of the ISC DHCP client binary.

dhcpcd (DHCP Client Daemon) is not affiliated with the ISC and still appears to be under active development.

KISSmyOS,

I mentioned dhcpd (the ISC DHCP server demon), not dhcpcd, the unaffiliated DHCP Client demon.

RavuAlHemio,

Yes; I wanted to mention that dhcpcd is not affected because the title explicitly mentions the DHCP client (dhclient), so people might go looking for alternative DHCP clients in the comments.

I think it’s a bit confusing that you mentioned the DHCP client (dhclient) and DHCP relay (dhrelay) in the title, then link to the Arch Wiki article about the DHCP server (dhcpd). Yes, dhrelay is contained in the dhcpd package (dhclient, however, is not), but I assume most people will be using a DHCP client and few will be operating a DHCP server or relay.

Potatos_are_not_friends, in EndeavourOS Ditches Xfce for KDE Plasma with the Galileo Release

There’s a lot of words that I have no idea what they mean in that sentence.

And I’m a Linux user.

guywithoutaname,

Galileo seems to be what they are calling the environment the USB boots to. This environment is moving from the XFCE desktop environment to the different KDE plasma desktop environment. These environments can both be customized, but they are very different under the hood. I imagine that you can still choose XFCE and other desktop environments from the installer.

cygnus,
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Galileo is the name of the “release”, which while somewhat of a misnomer for a rolling-release distro, is something EndeavourOS has done since the beginning. The current release is called Cassini Nova.

LeFantome,

You are correct that EndeavourOS is a rolling release. In that sense, you never have to ( and never really do ) “upgrade” to these new “releases” since you are essentially always using the latest software.

The releases do two things:

1 - they provide updated install media that are closer to the current repo contents so that upgrading after install is a smaller and more reliable operation.

2 - they provide an opportunity to change the system defaults. For example, the move to dracut. If you installed a couple of years ago, you can upgrade all your packages but you will still not be using dracut ( unless you make that change yourself ). Everybody that installs EOS now will use dracut by default. That is true of other things, like this change to KDE for the offline install.

LeFantome,

You can only choose the other DE options if you use the “online” installer. By default, you will get KDE now.

Dudewitbow,

Not a current user(but will be soon) but i read it as

Some Linux distro switches from one desktop environment to another. thr names are just 2 DE, and the name of the Distro version like how Apple names OSX after mountains.

CalicoJack,

And for a bit of extra clarity, they’re only changing the default DE. EndeavourOS gives you several DE options during install, KDE will just be on top of the list now (and used on the live media)

rho50, in would it be illegal to download Ubuntu on a Chromebook?

Crostini is an official feature built by Google that allows you to run Linux on a tightly integrated hypervisor inside Chrome OS. You keep a lot of Chrome OS’ security benefits while getting a Linux machine to play with.

That said, no, it’s not illegal to install a different operating system on your Chromebook hardware. They are just PCs, under the hood. You might lose some hardware security features though, e.g. the capabilities provided by integration of the Titan silicon.

If you had a job at Google, corporate IT would definitely not be happy if you wiped the company-managed OS and installed an unmanaged Linux distro :)

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