conrad82,

I would recommend using one of the distros backed by a big company or have very long track records. They are less likely to break on updates, and have a higher chance of supporting any uncommon hardware you may have.

  • Fedora
  • Ubuntu
  • Mint
  • Pop OS

If you have new hardware (e.g. GPU newer than 6 months) you will probably have issues. Follow the recommendations from the hardware supplier, or use something arch based. I used Manjaro a while when I got new hardware.

Besides those tips, you should decide which desktop environment you like best. I prefer gnome, as I enjoy to spend time in apps and not on in settings. Others prefer customization. Have a look at youtu.be/09cYQJBgKEs?si=KX8FZeMRcMlPTzG2

throwawayish, (edited )

A couple of assumptions I will be making:

  • Your hardware is supported; consider to check driver support over at linux-hardware.org. Honestly, most hardware should be well-supported, unless it has been released very recently or is hardware from known troublemakers (i.e. Nvidia GPUs or Broadcom etc).
  • Your ‘computer-literacy’ is at least (slightly) higher than average.
  • You’ve primarily used Windows in the past.
  • You prefer asking others instead of finding it out for yourself; the existence of this post supports that. (It’s either that or you like to have a second opinion in all cases; but I would have expected more input from you if that was the case 😅.)
  • Your hardware is somewhat modern.
  • You will mostly stick to defaults (at least initially).
  • You’re aware that while hundreds of actively maintained distros exist, most of them are either niche or not worth your time in the first place. If, from the remaining ones, the less impactful derivatives are surgically removed, followed by the removal of newbie-unfriendly distros, then only 10-20 distros would remain; most of which have been named in this thread already. And your needs dictate which one out of these would suit you best.
  • You will educate yourself regarding desktop environments like GNOME, KDE Plasma, Cinnamon, Xfce etc. Perhaps you will even boot into a live environment to check them out for yourself; loading a bunch of distros on your USB through Ventoy is excellent for that. This is important as they’re arguably the biggest contributor to how you perceive your Linux system. You should also be aware that in almost all cases a second (or heck; even third, fourth etc) desktop environment can be installed on your system and you should be able to switch between them relatively easily. However, in most cases, the one provided on first installation works close to flawless while others that have been tacked on later on are generally less polished.
  • You will educate yourself (eventually) regarding universal package managers (read: AppImage, Flatpak, Nix and Snap) and Distrobox as collectively they’ve (mostly) ridden the Linux ecosystem of problems related to software not being packaged in the native repos. Don’t feel the need to indulge into all of them simultaneously from the get-go. But be aware that they exist and that they enable one to install (almost) any package that has been made available to Linux regardless of their chosen distro.

Any distro I should use?

Typically, distros like Arch, Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE, Pop!_OS and Ubuntu (or their derivatives) will be mentioned in these kinds of queries. And it becomes mostly a popularity poll that measures what the community thinks is the preferred distro for beginners. And honestly, I don’t blame them as you haven’t really given us a lot to work with. My entry to that popularity poll would be Linux Mint. If you prefer to use GNOME or KDE Plasma instead, then consider either Fedora or openSUSE Tumbleweed. Additionally, Pop!_OS should be considered if Nvidia causes problems on all the others.

Feel free to inquire if you so desire!


EDIT: I just noticed how you mentioned to someone that your use case will be primarily gaming. First of all, gaming is somewhat equal on most distros; especially with the likes of Bazzite-Arch and Conty providing excellent environments for gaming regardless of installed distro. Though, these containers do still rely on the hosts kernel, therefore any perceived difference on same hardware but different kernels might be attributed to said kernels. Newer kernels generally come with improved performance; at least for newer hardware*. Though, perhaps more performance could be gained through other means as well. I will spare you the details, however, as this is potentially another rabbit hole within the initial rabbit hole. Therefore, instead, I will name a couple of distros known for being excellent for gaming purposes: Bazzite, Garuda Linux, Nobara Linux, PikaOS and RegataOS. If you want a no-nonsense system, just go for Bazzite; while initial setup might seem slightly more involved, it’s by far the most robust system out of these. This does come at the cost of being ‘unique’ amongst the others, but I believe it’s a great fit for your use case.

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Completely agree that these kinds of threads end up being more a popularity poll than anything more actionable and usable. Everyone has their own opinions and preferences (which is great!), but that can end up being extremely overwhelming for a newbie.

thespezfucker,

sorry for being inactive here, I have other things happening at the moment. i’m just gonna put some stuff here

You will mostly stick to defaults (at least initially).

Kinda, I recently started to get interested in modding! It isn’t stuff like homebrew (although I was planning to root my phone, until OEM unlock was disabled. Thanks wiko.), I mostly just use something like vencord and Bloxstrap (just tweaks the Roblox client a bit, no exploits tho) This might be not seen as modding, but who cares.

Your ‘computer-literacy’ is at least (slightly) higher than average.

slightly, I do know how to use HTML to an extent, and can know whats the difference between RAM and hard drives, I still have a long way to go.

Ok here are some of the specs that I can remember (I’m currently not home as of typing this)

I have a HP 2022 Laptop, decent enough to play games

I have a 512 hard drive and 12 GB of RAM

only has 2 USB ports, most of it was replaced by type C, so dual booting with.something USB related might be hard

Dabbled a bit into linux with a VM (a few years ago tho, it was Ubuntu)

and thats all I could remember, I do plan to do an update post after trying out some distros on a VM, hopefully it works!

gerdesj,

Start off with Gentoo to get the hang of the basics. Switch to Arch because compile times and heat burns. Try Linux from Scratch for a laugh, giggle and move on, but with a new found respect for distro maintainers.

What’s your use case? If it involves AAA games then that will narrow things a bit but if you simply want a bit of docs n that and, internet browsing and a spot of email and realtime sound and CAD then we’ll need a broader chat.

Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Mint - those would be my starters for 10 in no particular order. Pick yours and your hip angle. I personally run Arch (actually) and Gentoo. I don’t recommend them as a dip your toe in the water job 8)

Feel free to dive in, the water is lovely.

thespezfucker,

my use case is mostly contained of playing games and and a slight bit of actual work, not triple a tho

Aquilae,
@Aquilae@hexbear.net avatar

Fedora, Mint, or Debian would all be fantastic for that.

thespezfucker,

noted!!

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Use a VM and play with different DEs

Fedora is a good base and comes with most DEs as spins so you don’t have to swap live.

Choose the one you like the most.

Personally, XFCE for all around customization amd performance, KDE for out of box solid functionality (and wayland if you care).

Once you feel comfortable, then go ahead and install or dual boot.

Silverblue is okay but kinda overrated because Flatpaks are not a silver bullet and will break or have basic FS dependency issues. Plus, it’s not a great intro to Linux experience because you can’t shoot yourself in the foot easily most tutorials on Linux will be for a regular system.

As for the distros themselves:

spoilerArch: Bleeding edge and you want to actually suffer every time you boot. Manjaro: Arch but supposed to work out of box. Debian: The King of stability at the cost of slower package updates Fedora: Cutting edge and works out of box unlike Arch Ubuntu: Useless Canonical distro that is heavily dated Pop! OS and ElementaryOS: user friendly downstream of Ubuntu that suffer the same issues as Ubuntu. Linux Mint: Ubuntu if it was actually good except it’s still a downstream so still has aforementioned Ubuntu issues. Gentoo: You want something completely custom Slackware: You want a classic Unix like machine but with Linux RHEL/CentOS/Rocky/Oracle/Etc: Enterprise Linux (server usage and desktop usage) OpenSUSE: The RPM equivalent of Arch & Debian (comes in rolling and stable releases). So you can choose bleeding edge or stability.

Personally, I have stuck with Fedora for a long time. Debian or OpenSUSE would be second choice. Arch only if I’m forced to like the steam deck lol.

Also ArchWiki is your friend. Even if you’re on any other distro, it has a wealth of the latest information and tutorials for whatever you want or need.

TheGrandNagus,

Mint is good, unless it’s very new hardware in which case the base (so things like drivers) can be a little dated.

Look up Ventoy. It’s a tool where you can put multiple ISOs onto one USB drive and boot into any of them. You can use that to try out a few distros. Maybe Mint, Fedora, PopOS, Ubuntu.

LunchEnjoyer,
@LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world avatar

Had not heard of Ventoy before, thanks alot!

st3ph3n,
@st3ph3n@kbin.social avatar

I've been linux-curious on-and-off for years. I've toyed with it several times but always gone back to Windows eventually. I have a laptop with a 7th gen Intel CPU that is not supported on Windows 11, so I decided to wipe it and threw the latest version of Linux Mint on it. Everything (except for a fingerprint reader) worked straight out of the figurative box, and I've been happily running it on that machine for about 6 months now. I think Mint is a good choice if you want a simple windows-like experience.

I still have a desktop PC running Windows for games and Adobe Lightroom and stuff, but I won't be going back to Windows on that laptop.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

In the somewhat distant future you’re looking to switch to Linux. Okay, the question of distros can wait.

What you want to do in the not-too-distant-future if possible is start finding FOSS alternatives to the software you use. Stuff like LibreOffice and Krita have Windows versions, so in the meantime start learning and using those apps. Because that’s the real pain point.

As for distro…distros don’t really matter. Most of the user experience comes from the desktop environment, and that’s a matter of preference so personal that the real answer is “try several and use the one you like.”

thespezfucker,

ok, is gimp supported with linux?

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes. Very yes. the G in GIMP stands for GNU. GIMP ran on Linux before it ran on Windows.

thespezfucker,

mega thanks!

OddFed,
@OddFed@feddit.de avatar
thespezfucker,

look I’m not THAT into linux

thespezfucker,

but maybe one day…

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

From my experience, download many distros from Linux Mint to Zorin, maybe Fedora and OpenSuse if you want something non Ubuntu bases, or Manjaro and Endeavor OS if you are up for a challenge.

Then install them in a Virtual Machine like Virtual Box. This way you can test which OS you like, and see if the software you want works.

In my experience the Desktop Environment makes the biggest impact on your user experience.

Followed by the package manager (app store)

Then available software (steam lutris libre office)

Finally the terminal for when things go south (or you installed arch)

Agent_Engelbert, (edited )

Absolutely!

I started with mint. Hated it.

Ubuntu, Pop_Os. Hated it.

Fedora. Hated it.

Archlinux, okay, but not so much.

Manjaroo, hated it.

And now I settled with Garuda and Nobara. Like them.

I used Nobara for niche gaming (rarely use it now).

And Garuda Linux for dev work, and downloading and installing stuff, including proprietary packages. And I don’t have to configure all the things to make it capable of allowing me to download stuff from all the nice mirrors, such as the community arch mirror.

Nobara, on the other hand, is great at handling compatibility issues kinda out of the box. Such [Edit1: as GPU] drivers.

The reason I disliked the aforementioned distros was solely because of how much involved I had to be to configure them to integrate with my rare WiFi chip drivers, which triggered me when I banged my head at the keyboard for hours only to find out that my WiFi driver was not supported.

But Garuda and Nobara or a blessing, and a chef’s kiss.

That’s coming from a person who tried more than 20+ distros and/or their derivatives.

[Edit2:] All in all, I would recommend what the comment above suggested, as that will help you find your own path. The samurai path, the kenjutsu path, or the kendo path, the peaceful path, or the hackers path. ;)

[Edit3: sorry Debian users, but I DID try your distros, I just didn’t want to bother with them much as they had compatibility issues too !]

Bransons404,

I’ve been wanting to do this for years, and tried several years ago but my AMD graphics card didn’t have available drivers. I now have an rtx 2070 super, do you know if it’s compatible?

I saw in a comment above that mint cinnamon is great for gaming, does that use wine or something similar? The gaming aspect is really holding me back.

Also slight concern with my dev environment but I’m sure that’s been solved 100 different ways.

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Drivers. I’ve yet to run across any major issues except for Intel Compute not working with Davinci Resolve but that’s well documented.

Now for gaming on Linux. There are 2 ways to game on Linux.

  1. Native ports. Most valve games and some third parties (mostly indie) are natively compatible. I’ve had no issues playing these ports and they run like any other application.
  2. Windows Compatibility Layer. Now asking for 20+ year old games to be ported to Linux is a bit of an ask. Let alone asking devs to add Linux support to their games when Linux had such a small install base.

So what some very smart devs did, was make 2 pieces of software that makes playing native Windows games on Linux possible.

WINE, or WIne Is Not an Emulator, is a compatibility layer to run native Windows Software in Linux. With a primary focus on Windows System Calls. Gaming in wine isn’t graphically the best.

Then there is DXVK, or Direct X to Vulkan compatibility layer, which translates DX9-DX11 code to the open source Vulkan that runs in Linux. Intel’s Arc graphics uses this for their legacy compatibility.

Now you don’t need to worry about installing any of this since Valve packages these apps, and some choice software like .Net Runtime in a package called Proton. This is a checkbox in Steam and when Steam Play is enabled, the Windows versions of games will be installed and will work.

Compatibility is very good at this point but there are edge cases that still need to be ironed out. Like anti cheat, DRM, and more.

Lutris is another prices of software that can be used like Steam Play but for non steam games. Its also good, but can be fiddly.

Install process is no more involved than actual Windows, but when a Ubisoft game crashes it won’t take your entire machine down with it.

ruth_booth,
@ruth_booth@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Switched from Windows to Linux Mint few months ago, customized the look a bit and love it so far.

toastal, (edited )

Most distros are running the same software. The biggest difference is your package manager & community. Personal preference is NixOS but that ain’t beginner-friendly even if the rollbacks from bad states would help. Arch isn’t as difficult to set up as it used to be & has been more stable than a lot of distros in my experience so I wouldn’t discount it but .pacnew files can bite you if modifying in /etc instead of in the home folder (when possible). Of the things folks normally suggest as a first go, Fedora would probably be my pick (not yet had a problem) as everything Ubuntu-based still rubs me wrong for support & leadership.

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I actually disagree on what the biggest difference is. For the average everyday user, the biggest difference is the desktop environment. Having a desktop environment that the user finds intuitive, easy, and is stable is by far the most important thing.

filister,

93 comments after a post like this, are you guys nuts?

thespezfucker,

126 (or 127) comments now, why does this have 115 upvotes dear god

yetAnotherUser,

I guess (almost) everyone here wants to recommend their own distro

thespezfucker,

think that’s the case lol

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

mint if you are after a general purpose distro more specialised ones I might be able to recommend if you specify your interests

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Pop OS is the best to start with, it’s awesome.

thespezfucker,

heard it works best with nividia’s gpu’s, I have an AMD GPU on a decent laptop, is that good enough?

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Hmm I haven’t heard that Nvidia works better than Amd ever actually.

Amd drivers are included on the kernel so it will just work on all distributions. So I would give it a shot, don’t think you will have any problems. :)

LainOfTheWired,
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

So basically nvidia makes their drivers on Linux a pain to install and use and Linux’s creator has called them out on it in the past. So PopOS is known for having tools that make getting them working easier.

AMD on the other hand has open source drivers so they are right in the kernel. So their GPUS are just plug and play like a USB mouse

luthis,

To break from the trend (because I recommend Mint as well),

Check out the options on distrowatch.com, test out any live distros you can. When you have some understanding of GRUB then dual boot, and then triple.

Inevitably, you’re going to end up using Arch because it’s so easily managed and you get to choose each component. But it’s better if you have experience with the different components first. I completely missed out on learning RPM (package manager), I went from Mint (apt) to Arch (pacman). I did resurrect a lot of old laptops and desktops with various different distros though, and I learned Gnome and xfce, LXDE, MATE, and i3, xmonad…

There’s a lot to learn but it’s all fun, and it’s all different. When you go to a tiling window manager, you’ll understand why Windows adopted (albeit shittily) tiling in it’s latest version.

thespezfucker,

whoa, actual good info! Thank you kind stranger, i will use this!!!

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