vojel,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I don’t see a real „versus“ here. Wayland will definitely become the standard display server for Linux distributions. This is not sysV init vs systemd or something else. As pointed out by lots of ppl here X11 is old and insecure because it is from another time and does not fit into modern systems and requirements, thus it is way easier to start new and fresh instead of working around for any feature needed and maintain such a old code base. The only downside for me personally is that Wayland does not support always on top windows automatically. So either right click the window or use plugins for videos from Firefox for example. AFAIK this is also for security reasons. I run Wayland on my main machine for years now, no problems at all. If I got the choice I would always go for Wayland. Even Cinnamon has experimental Wayland support now and hopefully will make the switch soon.

satanmat,

Okay ELI5

X11 is a win doing system. It is old and has been around for years.

Wayland is a new one.

They both are the core that a gui sits on.

Wayland has some great new stuff but some people don’t like change

answersplease77,

which one is lighter/faster on old laptops?

drndramrndra,

Wayland has some great new stuff but some people don’t like change

More like: it was released 15 years ago and it’s still broken for a lot of people, while x11 is actually working without issues.

Mikina,

I’ve recently switched to Nobara, and has been unsure whether to go with Wayland or X11. Mostly because I’ve read that Wayland has issues on NVIDIA GPUs and will perform slower, so I went with X11 (On KDE). Is that still the case nowadays, or can I just use Wayland?

RenardDesMers,
@RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s easy to give it a try. You just have to select it at the login screen and see for yourself if you’re impacted by any issue.

xor,

Afaik the Nvidia issues are pretty much resolved now, though it may depend on exactly which GPU you use.

It’s definitely worth using Wayland if it’s not having issues, and switching back is absurdly easy, so I’d recommend using Wayland and going back to X if you’re encountering issues.

Tldr: it’ll probably be fine, give it a go and see

aBundleOfFerrets,

Nvidia on wayland still has some nasty implicit sync bugs, but it is mostly fine.

drndramrndra, (edited )

IDK about KDE, but Nobara gnome has Wayland and xorg entries in the login manager.

Btw Fedora is removing x11 support, so that’s going to be fun for everyone who’s having issues with Wayland.

kugmo,
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wayland is cringe and X is based

t. KDE Wayland daily driver

catfooddispenser,

Dude come on. Make an effort. If you really haven’t a clue then start by reading the KDE developer’s blog “Pointiest Stick” and github user Probonopd and his article + links gist.github.com/…/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f227…

sentient_loom,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

STFU

Burghler,

Costs very very little energy to just keep on scrolling buddy pal

purahna, (edited )
@purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Not only is @jacksilver right, but additionally, this article is extremely biased in favor of Xorg and is much more of a (completely unfair and one-sided) take-down of Wayland oriented at technical folks and not at all an explainer for laypeople

jacksilver,

Not OP, but the point of asking for an ELI5 is that sometimes you don’t even know where to start. For example I clicked the link you provided and only have more questions as I don’t really know what people mean by display servers, etc.

Sure I could look everything up and try to understand, but the hope is someone in the community might provide a better or faster summary than what can currently be found online.

baru,

Something similar has been asked loads and loads of times. It’s not needed to investigate, just searching for previous discussions is enough. It sometimes surprises me that people don’t read one of the many times the same was asked before. That said, despite the same questions coming up many times there’s often multiple people who will gladly explain things. So I agree that it doesn’t make sense to complain about it. I’m a bit surprised that nothing would come up though. It really gets asked regularly.

superbirra,

yeah, but the time of web forums with losers banning you because you couldn’t find a post from 17 years earlier on the same subject is long gone. YAY!

jacksilver,

I get your point. I don’t know about OP, but I hadn’t seen a similar thread, but I usually browse all so easily miss posts for specific communities.

Also, I’ve found search on Lemmy hit or miss. The federation aspect of everything makes search sometimes difficult or confusing. For example, what community would most likely have already provided an ELI5 post and how would it have been phrased?

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