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Spzi, in Linus does not fuck around

I would not work with or even for someone with such an attitude, not even for money. Ok, do it yourself, bye. Got better places to be.

planetaryprotection,

Are kernel maintainers not unpaid volunteers?

Spzi,

That’s kind of two of my main points:

  1. Treat your volunteers well, or why should they continue volunteering?
  2. Kernel maintainers have plenty of other opportunities.

I don’t know if they are volunteering or being paid. The other person said they are being paid.

Either way, no one deserves being talked down to like that, even if they made a mistake. It’s a matter of respect and self-respect. And as a skilled person like a kernel developer, it should be trivially easy to find other work in a more appropriate environment.

That being said, maybe I’m missing something. Torvalds has been known to be like that for a long time (although that seems to be over now). And still, Linux has been developed over decades. So apparently, skilled people flocked around Torvalds, or maybe rather his project. Not entirely sure why, but I’m taking it as a hint I might be missing something.

fosforus, (edited )

Generally speaking: not these days, and not for a long long time. Mauro, for instance, worked for Red Hat at the time. It’s of course possible to be unpaid and work for Linux, but I believe it’s much more likely that one is employed by a big tech corpo and they maintain the kernel as part of their work.

semnosao, in which ones do you think I missed?

it’s precisely that they don’t build themselves up by exploring the less privileged and really create value to society that we view them as good people. No billionaire is self-made, no billionaire is good. Eat the rich, help your communities, be kind.

QuazarOmega, in Repurposing your laptop trans rights style 😎🏳️‍⚧️

Fun fact: they’re actually the same person, but he sold it and bought it back when she realized the gross mistake she made

platypus_plumba,

Damn, you assumed pronouns like 4 times. Get ready to go to trans jail (jk)

QuazarOmega,

Wait, I thought I implied the gender change correctly?

Eccitaze,
@Eccitaze@yiffit.net avatar

Nah, I got that, you’re all Gucci

QuazarOmega,

Pog, we chill

platypus_plumba,

You IMPLIED? That’s even worse than assuming. Life sentence.

QuazarOmega,

Dammit, I’m busted… (but they’ll never know I’m also a racist)
race car flip

Alfika07,

Me reading this thread with a native language that doesn’t have gender specific pronouns: 😳😅

shadearg, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...
@shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

Four of them c parts lookin’ a lil too curved…

NoSpotOfGround,

I bet the counts of 8 and 12 for c and d are swapped by mistake…

ashok36,

They’re not. A is the starting piece on both sides. B is the end piece. C and D are the pieces between a and B.

The order for each side would be acccddddcccb.

E is the 11 bars that hold the two sides together.

NoSpotOfGround, (edited )

The drawing does say that… It’s just that the curvature on those top Cs makes them look very much like Ds to me.

Arbiter, in Linus does not fuck around

The fact that people here value feelings and pretty expressions more over quality, standards and passion shows exactly how human civilization will decline into mediocrity and sickness.

CasualPenguin,

Your subpar ability to understand that the self fellating anger in that email is in no way something that generates quality and standards says much more about the decline to mediocrity.

Spzi,

False dichotomy.

squaresinger,

So you are saying personal offenses and coleric bosses are required to deliver quality?

How does screaming and shouting like a little kid in a temper tantrum increase quality?

If you need to resort to personal offenses to get your point across, you are either lacking a good point, communication skills or respect.

And behaving like a toddler tends to make people really respect you, right?

havocpants,

Nonsense. It’s simply that that kind of conduct is deeply unprofessional and reflects poorly on Linus. He could have said the exact same things about the issues with that patch without the obscenities and personal attacks.

I’ve worked as a software team lead for nearly 30 years, you do not get the best out of people by belittling and berating them.

arandomthought, in Just a PSA

If they don’t understand this, can we even call it intelligent life?

transientpunk,
@transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

Truth

partial_accumen,

Maybe they use Emacs.

Bonus: I googled “emacs” to make sure I got the capitalization right for the post and Google is throwing shade:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7f8ff1f1-7fce-4d2d-a545-097a63246b0c.png

TurnItOff_OnAgain,

Nano forever!

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

ed is the standard text editor.

arandomthought,

Well, then my point still stands.
Jk, don’t hurt me please!

dubyakay,

Maybe it’s time to stop using GOOG

jmcs,

Google does the opposite of “vi”. Some people just like to watch the world burn.

pirat,

I misread “the world bum”

The term “keming” is sometimes used informally to refer to poor kerning (the letters r and n placed too close together being easily mistaken for the letter m).

Wikipedia: Kerning

possiblylinux127,

duck.com

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

I don’t know how people get this. I tried but it didn’t do this.

Skyhighatrist, (edited )

Strange, I just tried and got the vi suggestion. And, googling vi gave me an emacs suggestion. So shade all around!

hemko,

Just capitalize it EMACS and people will think you’re more senior than in reality

hemko,
dukk,

It’s the other way around, too.

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/58d179a2-e044-4f47-8b57-b158b396d947.jpeg

Not as true though.

hemko,

This gotta be some inside joke leaking from google

Aurenkin,

Maybe they use Emacs.

Exactly

PeterPoopshit, (edited ) in I am one of you now

archinstall is actually good now though I’ve used it

giggling_engine, in Linus does not fuck around
@giggling_engine@lemmy.world avatar

I wish I could talk to my engineers like that, maybe they’d stop fucking everything up.

BirdyBoogleBop,

Oh they would stop. Working there.

squaresinger,

If all your engineers fuck everything up, maybe the problem is with their leadership who never learned to communicate clearly and professionally.

MooseBoys, in Linus does not fuck around

I find it ironic that Linus’s explanation for ENOENT being invalid for an ioctl given its meaning of “No such file or directory”, while simultaneously ioctl can return ENOTTY when using a mismatched device fd despite the error meaning “Not a typewriter.”

GBU_28,

In 2012?

lolcatnip,

But a file handle can be attached to a TTY.

PumpkinEscobar, in I am one of you now

The new / rewritten arch install is fantastic. The btrfs layout, with encryption, really nice experience and end result.

dipshit, in When your kids misbehave

With great power comes great responsibility!

merc, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

MacOS is still Unix under the hood, and has been since they adapted NeXTSTEP.

Maybe it’s just because I’m fundamentally more of a console user than a windowing-system user, but to me a Unix-based OS is always going to be a winner compared to Windows.

But, if you want to laugh at OSes, laugh at classic MacOS, where everything would grind to a halt if you clicked and held the mouse button.

netchami,

Maybe it’s just because I’m fundamentally more of a console user than a windowing-system user, but to me a Unix-based OS is always going to be a winner compared to Windows.

I absolutely agree

But, if you want to laugh at OSes, laugh at classic MacOS

Or some weird old Unixes like AIX

merc,

Yeah, but at least they’re unixes (unices?).

cygnus,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

I think Unices would be correct, if it works like “appendix” etc…

dukk,

Or it could be “Unixes”, as in “prefixes”, or “crucifixes”.

English is a weird language.

merc,

Yeah, apparently you need to know the origin of the word to know how to pluralize it.

One octopus, two octopuses. But you can also say “octopodes” because the elements used to create the word are originally Greek (okto for 8, pous for foot), and that’s how Greek words get pluralized. But, although it was based on Greek elements it was never used in Ancient Greek. It was a modern Latin word, created in the 1700s as a scientific term using those Greek elements. As a Latin word, the “us” ending should be pluralized with “i”, so “octopi” (which is one of the oldest known pluralizations of the word). But, it’s an English word, and the proper way to pluralize an English word ending in “us” is to tack on “es”.

So, you can go with “octopodes”, “octopi” or “octopuses” and have an argument why any of them is correct.

For Unix, since it’s a word created in English, it’s probably “unixes”. To claim it’s “unices” you’d have to pretend that “unix” is a Latin word, which it isn’t, and never was, but “ix” is a common declension pattern in Latin, and an uncommon ending in English, so it’s fun to pretend it’s a Latin word and doesn’t get pluralized normally.

bitwaba, (edited )

Eunuchs

merc, (edited )

No, we’re not talking about the users. (And the polite term is incel.)

bitwaba,

I figured it was more a voluntary thing for this group. A voncel if you will.

HelloHotel, (edited )
@HelloHotel@lemmy.world avatar

Ahhh! The sweet taste of hardware and software flaws. (Every platform had them lol)

MacNCheezus,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

This. I’m not sure why more people don’t know this, but macOS is actually UNIX certified. Linux isn’t.

Scrollone,

Well, GNU stands for Gnu is Not Unix, so…

MacNCheezus, (edited )
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Yes, I know. That’s why it’s always kinda funny when you see Linux users shitting on MacOS for not being UNIX enough for their taste.

netchami,

Linux isn’t Unix, it’s Unix-like

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

And that’s part of what I like about it. I know how to operate in the terminal and it’s the same in all Unix OSes.

netchami,

It’s one of the reasons I absolutely hate Windows. Nearly every OS uses some form of Unix. Android is Linux, iOS is based on XNU which is FreeBSD, macOS is also XNU, Linux is unix-like, all BSDs are Unix, even the OS used in the PS4 is FreeBSD and thus Unix. Windows is the only thing that’s different.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar
netchami,

Nah, Windows always does that on its own. No intervention required.

whereisk, in Alpine Linux is just Busybox in a Linux Distro trenchcoat

I’ve only installed it a couple of days ago in a vm and It’s pretty good but a couple of things are a bit startling if you’re coming from debian.

Eg. The lack of niceties like the ll alias. Or The config you have to go through to allow SSH Some utils I’m used to like broot refuse to install properly even though the apk exists. Fz-find doesn’t exist in the community repository.

But you can’t argue with apk - so much better than apt or how frugal it is re resources.

Looking forward to getting stuck into it a bit more.

extant,

Have you checked your bashrc file to see if the aliases are just commented out? I feel like it comes standard with bash but not every distro enables it by default.

whereisk,

That’s the point! It doesn’t come with bash as a shell, it comes with ash - even if you install bash and switch to it, bashrc is empty. It’s a bit bare bones, which is kind of charming, until it’s annoying. Haha!

IrateAnteater, in I found it! The manual! I'm not sure it's helping me though...

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Buffalox, (edited )

Exactly, so why are some people complaining Arch is hard?

jaybone,

There’s a pill for that.

Kusimulkku,

Should be piss easy if you followed the instructions, but people will just start connecting parts because “how hard can it be”. Then they’ll complain about how it’s broken and how the instructions were bad lol.

Ithi,

I was thinking the same thing and assumed it was a serious post until I looked at the community name.

xigoi,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It doesn’t look straight at all, there is a large bend.

robdor,

It is straight. There’s just a big ol mass somewhere between the paper and us causing some gravitational lensing.

BendyLemmy, in This truly is the year of the linux desktop
@BendyLemmy@lemmy.world avatar

Haha Pornhub - proof that most visitors use Windows, and they’re a bunch of wankers.

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