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Zzera, in big deal
@Zzera@lemmy.world avatar

Simple solution: call all of it Linux, all the way down the programs and individual files to make everyone angry!

ramble81,

Yo dawg, I heard you like Linux, so I put Linux in your Linux so you can Linux while you Linux.

(On second thought, that sounds a lot like “smurfs”)

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar
backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

gnu coreutils are linux

callyral, in It's (usually) already installed
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

why do windows users install chrome?

i don’t get it, edge comes preinstalled on windows and it’s chromium-based.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

The same reason people are reluctant to leave the Apple ecosystem, you’d have to set everything up again.

nixcamic, (edited )

If you’re gonna go though the trouble of installing a browser, why switch Microsoft for Google? They’re both evil and Edge actually performs significantly better than Chrome somehow (they’re basically the same I don’t get it).

Install freaking Firefox.

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

If you’re gonna go though the trouble of installing a browser, why switch Microsoft for Google?

Exactly I don’t get it, the only explanation I can think of is that they have Chrome on their phone and want to sync it or something?

Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s just momentum. Chrome was THE advised browser for a long time and people are just used to it.

Kleinbonum,

Conversely, if they’re both evil, why use Microsoft over Google?

People have their browser set up the way they want it, and downloading and installing Chrome to have everything sync back and work exactly the way they want things to work takes all of two minutes.

Why use Edge and spend time and effort to import bookmarks, import passwords, change settings, install extensions etc. only to have the exact same end result that downloading Chrome would have given them in the first place, but with the added annoyance of Microsoft leveraging Edge to nudge them into the Microsoft ecosystem?

nixcamic,

Conversely, if they’re both evil, why use Microsoft over Google?

You shouldn’t, you should use Firefox.

Kleinbonum,

Point being that installing Chrome isn’t the “trouble” you’re making it out to be, when switching to Edge comes with zero advantage.

But you weren’t asking an open ended question anyway, right?

Skimmer, (edited )

I agree yeah, I’d say in a lot of ways that Edge is much better than Chrome, due to its performance and also very good security, plus some tracking protection (though not a lot) vs. Chrome’s none, etc. Between the 2, I’d probably always pick Edge.

But yeah just never use either tbh, Firefox ftw.

nicoweio,

Force of habit? Plus, if I used Windows, I wouldn’t use Edge out of spite. Fuck their shady ways of pushing users to use it.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

it’s not even shady anymore. it’s just clingy and pathetic like an ex who can’t move on.

Patches,

Because most people these days still don’t know Edge is chromium based instead of Garbage based

vinhill,

I think lots of people also don’t know how easy it is to migrate all user data between browsers. Also, the added work of changing your phone app is probably too much for the average, comfortable consumer.

dansity,

I used to get it why people install chrome. It had a specific look and feel. It’s no more, all browsers (except some startups making up the rules) look the same. Its a full page window with tabs on the top. Vanilla FF looks the same.

Sharp312,

Honestly i dont think most people do. We’re all in a bubble of atleast somewhat technically minded people, not just on lemmy but im sure most of our friends irl are similar. Ive been in a few officey type areas and out of the vast majority of monitors ive seen, theyve been using edge, sometimes i even see multiple browsers open lmao. Just checked statcounter and edge is the third most used which is fucking nuts when you consider how many options there are.

Spoilt, in big deal

My OS is Ubuntu

kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

Here the evidence that the fediverse is peaceful. No one lynching this user.

Octopus1348,

Same.

spikespaz,

Can I ask why? You’ve witnessed public opinion about it, and don’t care. Why?

RickRussell_CA, (edited ) in Always that feeling
@RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world avatar

felling

ISWYDT

tubaruco,

i hope its a joke, because biden is falling(he fell) and feeling

buycurious, in Always that feeling

I would have also accepted:

Typing up an email

Typing up an email while sharing your screen

QuazarOmega, in Always that feeling

Funny, but…


<span style="color:#62a35c;">echo </span><span style="color:#183691;">"Where Linux?"
</span>
SomeBoyo, (edited )

<span style="color:#323232;">~ $ cowsay Where Linux?
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ______________
</span><span style="color:#323232;">&lt; Where Linux? >
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> --------------
</span><span style="color:#323232;">           ^__^
</span><span style="color:#323232;">           (oo)_______
</span><span style="color:#323232;">            (__)       )/
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                ||----w |
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                ||     ||
</span>
kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

"grep linux | this_guy"

or something like that?

milicent_bystandr, in Using Fedora Atomic is like...

“Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping”

possiblylinux127,

*Terabytes

phoenixz, in Using Fedora Atomic is like...

Still better than snap

ichbinjasokreativ,

Having compared snaps in ubuntu 23.10 to flatpaks on opensuse tumbleweed, I can safely say that snaps tend to be faster for me with less weirdness happening during usage. Some programs were the same (obsidian for example) other comparisons were done from the same category (Firefox snap vs chromium flatpak). I genuinely prefer snap and don’t see the issues people often quote. Also, that the backend isn’t open isn’t a big deal to me, as snaps themselves generally still are.

Kerb, in It's (usually) already installed
@Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

not even that

winget install Mozilla.Firefox

HW07,

Choco > winget imo

Telodzrum,

I’d argue that it’s not really an opinion, but objective fact.

HW07,

I find that winget tends to just grab M$ Store packages, essentially becoming just an alternative CLI frontend.

Chocolatey, however, actually grabs the native program. And it isn’t developed by Microsoft.

Even Scoop is good enough, however programs might not work perfectly because it uses portable versions of the program.

possiblylinux127,

Scoop is way better than both of those as it bypasses installing apps completely

HW07,

But some apps don’t function properly if not installed. So I think that chocolatey is better.

rtxn, (edited )

Fuck Winget. It’s a GUI-only person’s idea of what a CLI package manager should be. The only positive value I can think of is that it’s better than not having one at all.

I manage about 500 Windows machines in a university. When teachers started complaining that they are unfamiliar with the paid version of an IDE, and we’d have to install the free community edition, I was delighted to learn that it was available through Winget. But privilege escalation on Windows is a fucking joke, so trying to install it remotely through Ansible/WinRM just popped the UAC anyway. I had to VNC into every single machine to click the fucking button. As an additional middle finger, winget.exe was not even in PATH when I tried WinRMing as the local admin.

Winget is the absolute nadir of package managers, and it should be doused in acid, burned, chucked in the dumpster where it belongs, and forgotten. Choco and Scoop all the way.

possiblylinux127,

Use scoop

XEAL, (edited ) in It's (usually) already installed

You install something that at the core is the same as you but with a better interface.

It’s funny how Microsoft just gave up on creating a new web browser and instead just rebranded someone else’s homework.

ILikeBoobies,

Edge uses less RAM than Chrome

joyjoy,

It’s what they do best, but it usually involves buying a company.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Edge integrates into M365 far better than Chrome integrates into Google Workspaces. I still use Firefox at work. But its cool for my illiterate users.

Yerbouti, in It's (usually) already installed

I’m amaze by how many people still use chrome based browser. They really want to get their face eat by a leopard. Well we told you people, there’s no reason left not to use firefox.

HappyToaster1911,

Chromium isn’t chrome, and there are reasons to use browsers not based on firefox, I like Vivaldi more than firefox way better customization and more features, but since Manifest V3 exists I am using firefox so I am already used to it if Google makes the other browsers shit

nixcamic,

I’m curious what customization and features Vivaldi has that Firefox doesn’t.

WereCat,

Workgroups, tab stacking, tab tiling, side by side view of multiple websites which you can interact with at the same time within one window, keyboard only control (if desired) and more.

nixcamic,

Most or all of those are available in extensions and keyboard only I think is in stock FF but I can understand not wanting to install a million extensions to recreate that functionality. I was a die hard old school Opera user but just can’t bring myself to daily drive a chromium based browser.

uis, in Using Fedora Atomic is like...
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
hglman, in It's (usually) already installed

My work stuff wont work in firefox, yeah that’s a new fun enterprise thing. In any case I use edge on osx for those few sites, firefox for everything else.

You999,

Will it work if you change the user agent to chrome or edge?

x4740N,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

Hijacking your comment to say if people are having issues on firefox with YouTube being unresponsive change your user agent to a chrome one

hglman,

Maybe, but it’s my job and that’s the kind of stuff that gets you in trouble.

ilinamorato,

Report the sites to webcompat!

Might not do anything, but on the other hand it might!

MNByChoice, in It's (usually) already installed

Why are you guys doing default installs? Setup you preseeds and get what you want.

Pantherina, in It's (usually) already installed

This meme makes no sense. Why would Windows want that?

Surprisingly I dont get weird popups when installing Firefox

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

It doesn’t have to make sense as long as it bashes Windows.

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