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junezephier, in The latest feature of Windows (at least in Greece) requires you to wait for 30 mins before you boot in for the first time. XD

I did a fresh install of 11 recently and it took heckin forever after restrating like twice and doing lots of “setup”

It was a great processor and on a decent ssd, so i do think they’ve just increased how long the setup takes

TimeSquirrel,
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Oldest developer trick in the book. Program in a bunch of useless delays everywhere. On the next few updates, slowly remove them and say you are "improving" the system.

Dutchdodo,

If our planning is anything to go by: easily half an hour longer than 10, if you do a manual install.

possiblylinux127,

Just use windows 10 in a vm

Johanno, in The latest feature of Windows (at least in Greece) requires you to wait for 30 mins before you boot in for the first time. XD

Funny, but did you manage to install it on a way too old pc or are you using hdd as System drive?

Because it just seems to install as normal, but slowly.

I mean Linux may take the same time if you install sth like popos which ads a lot of “bloat”

ReverseModule,
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This is on an M.2 with a i7-10870H and a 3080M. I installed Windows some days ago on my main Desktop and didn’t have to deal with any of that. It must be a new “feature”.

Johanno,

Well then I wonder what the fuck Windows is doing? Running crypto miners?

Trainguyrom,

When I had to reinstall Windows 11 on a laptop at work with an 11th Gen i7 it took a good 30+ minutes of it faffing about between finishing the setup wizard and reaching the deskfop and when I to installed PopOS on a much older laptop with a 6th Gen i7 it took less than 5 minutes to perform the install

atlasraven31, in Non GNU/Linux user trying to praise Linus

That’s a weird way to say a better alternative.

BlastboomStrice, in The latest feature of Windows (at least in Greece) requires you to wait for 30 mins before you boot in for the first time. XD
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Ayyy, another Greek, hello there!😄

ReverseModule,
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Heeeey! :)

Polar, in Driving an AE86 apparently feels just like using wayland with NVIDIA

I love this thread.

Linux users constantly talk about how Linux just works and Windows is garbage, but then half these comments are talking about how you should buy an entirely different computer to make Linux run with FEWER issues.

Windows may have it’s problems, but I don’t need to buy an entirely new PC to make it work. AMD, Nvidia, Intel, doesn’t matter. It just works.

rockhandle,
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This thread is utterly braindead but nvidia users are not completely out of luck. Use the proprietary drivers with xserver instead of wayland and it works fine (speaking from personal experience). Xserver has it’s own issues and will probably be phased out in favour of wayland in the future but hopefully by then, it will be able to support nvidia better.

hemko,

Well Linux just works. Unless if you buy hardware from a company that actively tries to fuck you in the ass for using Linux

What you’re basically saying, is like whining that Windows doesn’t run on a macbook

Kidplayer_666, in Saved my ass a few times

Imagine having backups and not being on the testing branch of the beta version of a distro while running a custom kernel that is on alpha (Context, im on testing branch of fedora 39 beta with the asahi kernel)

TimeSquirrel,
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Everybody in here does all this crazy shit with their system. I just wanna use my computer, man. I cruise on defaults all day long. I barely even bother changing the DE's default wallpaper.

beefsquatch, in Driving an AE86 apparently feels just like using wayland with NVIDIA
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I’ve been using Wayland for about a year on and off with Voidlinux on the framework 13. Everything’s pretty much worked from the start besides screen sharing which was a void specific issue that’s been patched

DrRatso, in Driving an AE86 apparently feels just like using wayland with NVIDIA

Can anybody who has actually used Nvidia with wayland in the last 6 months tell me what problems you have? As a recreational PC user I have noticed 0 issues with my setup:

  • Ryzen 3600
  • Nvidia GTX 1660
  • Arch
  • Nvidia-open driver
  • Gnome / KDE / Hyprland (currently Gnome) running on wayland

I came from Windows 2-3 months ago, my daily usage has been more or less unaffected, especially when it comes to something I could pin to specifically nvidia + wayland.

All the above just makes it seem like nvidia + wayland bad is just a circlejerk.

mathematicalMagpie,

I used KDE with Wayland briefly a few months ago. The right-click menu would look very glitchy. Items disappeared until hovered over, and then disappeared again when moving the mouse. Firefox also had some issue where it would only take half the screen.

DrRatso,

Interesting, but I doubt this was an nvidia + wayland problem, or if it was, it had been since fixed. My first DE was KDE and I used the regular nvidia driver with it, for sure did not notice anything wrong with right click menus.

e0qdk, in Driving an AE86 apparently feels just like using wayland with NVIDIA
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Do you have systemd-initiald configured correctly? :-)

RickyRigatoni, in Driving an AE86 apparently feels just like using wayland with NVIDIA
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Nvidia spends the past few years aggressively refusing to cooperate with wayland because corporate brain worms and somehow it’s wayland’s fault.

AVincentInSpace,

Wile I agree that it’s not Wayland’s fault, I also think that people acting like X11 was obsolete yesterday and everyone should immediately stop using it simply because Wayland exists, while that is still true, are not helping the situation any

Vilian, in Seeing Macs with HDR

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ShaunaTheDead, in Solid advice
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We're not enemies as soon as a Windows user walks in. Or... Uuuugh.... A Mac user.

elouboub, in Seeing Macs with HDR
@elouboub@kbin.social avatar

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dansity, in Solid advice

I have been to some shady pubs and nightclubs in my life, non of them had so much violent people as a linux bugreport thread.

Urist, in Solid advice
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Queue any discussion of Wayland/Xorg, Systemd, flatpacks, snaps, distro choice, Pipewire/Pulseaudio (last one is easy, Pipewire ftw), Vim/Emacs, GPL/MIT, immutability, etc…

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