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RegalPotoo, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
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Down vote away, I don’t care, but they really aren’t though.

Pretty big difference between buying a thing that stops working if you don’t have an active subscription, and using an old LTS and being given the choice of paying for extended support or the free upgrade to the new LTS

hedgehog,

Pretty big difference between buying a thing that stops working if you don’t have an active subscription, and using an old LTS and being given the choice of paying for extended support if you’re a corporation, signing up for a free “subscription” if you’re not, or the free upgrade to the new LTS

FTFY, it’s an even bigger difference when the extended support is free for end users.

possiblylinux127, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

Meanwhile Red hat takes several weeks to patch on mission critical systems

avidamoeba, (edited ) in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
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Memes are cool. Blatant misinformation in the form of a meme to manufacture outrage, not so much.

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

huh? what is the misinformation here?

avidamoeba, (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Even though this has been explained many times since the whole hullabaloo, I’ll assume you’re genuinely unaware and/or perhaps got rage-farmed by someone else’s meme. The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn’t changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro. There is net new support by Canonical that covers community-supported packages too which is available with Ubuntu Pro subscription. Therefore Canonical hasn’t removed any existing, previously free security support. In addition, this newly added security support is available for free for up to 5 machines and it lasts for 10 years.

More info here: discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq/34042

cypherpunks, (edited )
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I’ll assume you’re genuinely unaware

I’m perfectly aware of what Ubuntu Pro is, and the difference between Ubuntu main and universe.

The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn’t changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro.

If you think the meme implies that, then surely you must think that the message printed by Ubuntu’s apt upgrade command in the screenshot implies that too, right?

One of the packages listed in this screenshot is libavcodec, which is required by things like VLC (which is in Ubuntu universe, which is enabled by default).

If you think it is perfectly fine for Canonical to do the work to patch that library and then withhold the security update from the vast majority of Ubuntu users who won’t sign up for Ubuntu Pro… we’ll have to agree to disagree.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks,

As a sysadmin that dealt with IBM “helping” CentOS into an early grave, I refuse to give canonical or any for-profit corporation the benefit of the doubt here. After seeing how many products start out free and move towards paid or ad supported models once they think they can get away with it, I doubt this is done out of goodwill, either.

avidamoeba, (edited )
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Don’t need to. It’s useful while free for people who wouldn’t otherwise pay for it. If/when we get the rug pulled from under us, mothrrship Debian is right there.

shrugal, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

I’m no fan of Ubuntu, but maintaining an LTS release and backporting security updates is actual ongoing work. Most distros don’t even provide an LTS release for that reason.

riodoro1, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

Isn’t Ubuntu Pro just Debian?

avidamoeba,
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It isn’t.

UnderpantsWeevil, in Nvidia...
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Hey, listen, y’all. Nividia is barely scraping by so of course they’ve got to cut a few corners somewhere.

joyjoy,

They’ve cut so many corners, they made a circle.

frezik,

They already have Jensen doing his own sound effects at conference presentations. Do we expect him to sell his leather jacket to keep the company afloat, too?

GreatAlbatross, in Nvidia...
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At least you can roll back the drivers on a computer.
It’s even more infuriating when a TV manufacturer rolls out an update with “bug fixes and improvements”, and you know full well that if they broke ARC again, there is no going back to the old version.

XEAL, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

Ubuntu Pro is free up to 5 machines

pearsaltchocolatebar,

For now

SirDankbud,

My update told me as much. OP’s likely did too. But it is usually a lot harder to manufacture outrage when you have a full picture and manufacturing outrage is the best way to get exposure on social media.

Xeroxchasechase, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

It’s real?!

astar26,

Those are community maintained packages in the first place. Canonical offers extended security updates (plus after the 5 year LTS EOL) for a fee, with 5 machines for free for non-commercial uses.

Very legit IMO

Sanctus, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
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Theres a reason this is the distro all the corpos push and include with everything. I use arch btw.

K0W4LSK1, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
@K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Wow haven’t tried Ubuntu in years wtf happened

Tarquinn2049, in Nvidia...

When the marketing department is more important to a company than the customer support. Rather than actually help the customers, they just make sure customer support never says anything bad about their products. Including the problems they have/had in the patch notes.

“These are too many fixes, listing them all will make us look bad.”

UnderpantsWeevil,
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When the marketing department is more important to a company than the customer support.

The marketing department is easier to integrate with AI. Those stupid customer support folks have to actually think about the problem and determine a working solution, rather than regurgitating a random assembly of buzzwords and spicy graphics.

thisbenzingring, in Nvidia...

Good ol Liam. Dude is a saint.

Sprokes, in Nvidia...

I bought an old computer to install plex. At one time I wanted to try some tool that does speech to text and decided to install Nvidia drivers to speed the process. I messed up my system and tried for hours to fix it but I gave up. Now I don’t have gui.

thisbenzingring,

In case you or someone else didnt know this, never install the drivers yourself, use the version that your distro provides in its app repository

Anonymous,

Novideo strikes again

thecookingsenpai, in Nvidia...
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A few bugs*

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