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SimplyTadpole, in It's OK if you cry
@SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Me struggling with Realtek on Linux 🤝 One of my partners struggling with Nvidia on Linux

At least I managed to get a Linux-compatbile wifi USB later on, but it was pricey to import it and it’s still quite slow :/

Meanshadows35,
@Meanshadows35@lemmy.world avatar

When I had a Nvidia card in my computer years ago i had to use an Nvidia ppa for drivers. It was the only way I could get it to work.

Nvidia PPA help

Lyricism6055,

New distros have all this built in. Just use endeavouros or something if u really want the good stuff

Still,
@Still@programming.dev avatar

well endoevouros is just arch and the nvidia-dkms package just works for currently supported cards (I think 9 series and newer)

Lyricism6055,

Endeavouros worked out of the box though, so for new users I’d recommend it over arch. It even worked with my Nvidia prime gpu

Still,
@Still@programming.dev avatar

I put my comment there meaning like any arch based distro should just work

HiddenLayer5, in Accurate?
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

What the fuck the do you have a life question is so offensive! Stop trying to just be edgy in memes!

I’m so sick of these stupid stereotypes that the Linux community has. I’ll have you know that I use both Debian and Fedora and I do not in fact have a life.

KISSmyOS, in Accurate?

Arch has been more of a “just works” distro for me than OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, Debian and Fedora.
Arch Installation nowadays goes like this:


<span style="color:#323232;">iwctl  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">device list  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">station *device* scan  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">station *device* get-networks  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">station *device* connect *SSID*  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">archinstall
</span>

And you only need the first 5 lines if you’re installing from wifi.

mojo,

My arch install took some setup to get it specifically right for me, still trying to figure out the final touches. I have the entire thing encrypted and under btrfs sub-partitions. I set up secure boot as well and added it to my tpm. Last thing I got to do is set it up so it automatically decrypts on boot without a password. I’ve been liking this setup over my Fedora setup. I have to worry about smaller breakage every so often, but with Fedora I had to worry about big breakage every major version. Moving most of what I can to flatpak mitigated a lot of that though. I’m too lazy to replicate my arch setup on my laptop so that’s just sticking with Fedora until I decide it should run something else.

effward,
@effward@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry if this is a stupid question, and maybe it’s because I’m not understanding exactly what you’re saying, but what’s the benefit of encrypting if it decrypts on boot without a password?

Just to prevent someone who boots another OS on your device from being able to access your files? Something else?

mojo,

Because changing any hardware will flip the tpm and require a password. If they stole the hard drive, it’d be encrypted. Basically I’m protecting on if they rip out the harddrive lol.

westyvw, (edited ) in Accurate?

Ubuntu has caused me far more headaches and downtime than Arch. Go figure.

And to make this be a worthwhile comment: I wonder if it is because I use Arch (and derivatives) that Ubuntu causes issues. When something isn’t right, I try and fix it. In Arch I can. In Ubuntu it seems like a dozen paper cuts to get there and it may not work in the long run anyway. Oh the Snap doesnt have foo compiled in? No problem I can add it to the snap directory. No, that didnt work. Ok I will remove it and bring in a .deb file. Dependencies not met. Fine, I will compile it from source… and by that time I have wasted a TON of time.

molochthagod,

Worth noting, this meme is from the time before Arch had an easy installer. So that’s probably what it’s referring to. I joined Linux almost 4 years ago, and this meme already existed then. I dunno how old it really is.

thetreesaysbark,

This sounds like my Ubuntu xp as well. Although I haven’t had the arch xp to compare it against which makes me slightly hesitant to jump in.

I’m pretty tempted to revamp my old laptop to arch though. Just needs funds for enough personal storage first.

FrostyCaveman,

I totally get that

reminds me of what happens when developing software and using “no code” tools. Fragile and inflexible but if you meet the exact use case in the exact way it’s an instant win

linearchaos, (edited )
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Oh god yeah that’s the fate of snap and flat pack.

Install OBS studio, current version has some issues oh look there’s a flat pack install the flat pack instead. OBS runs great. Oh, I need some plugins Go to install the plugins, The plugins folder isn’t where it belongs. I scrape along and find the plugins folder I try to shove them in there doesn’t work. Oh I need to find the flat pack installer for the plugin… But half the s*** I want isn’t available.

I truly appreciate them trying to make things more universal and easier. But it’s a fine line we’re walking between easy but unconfigurable and non-standard complicated but flexible.

Littleborat, in Accurate?

Looks like I had the right distro until it spammed my root partition with snaps and suffocated itself.

Back to Spyware

cupcakezealot, (edited ) in Accurate?
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

read fedora as facebook and then just imagined facebook putting out a facebook distro

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I mean, Microsoft also has their Linux distro, sort of: github.com/microsoft/CBL-Mariner

FrostyCaveman,

Zuck Linux - would make canonical look like saints

gmtom,

When you want to use Linux but miss the invase data collection of windows

uis, in You should
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

This cat is just :3

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

:3

FartsWithAnAccent, in Accurate?
@FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social avatar

No Mint?

cows_are_underrated,

Green Ubuntu

Littleborat,

Mint was just some protest distro against gnome shell or whatever window manager Ubuntu promoted at the time. 10 years Iater I use Ubuntu with gnome

Telodzrum,

That’s how it started, but now it’s the one that does everything Ubuntu claims to better and with more long-term stability.

tryagain,

It might be getting a second wind now as an escape from Wayland/NVIDIA and death by a thousand snaps. That was why I switched a few months ago; all I wanted was to play ETS2 on my old laptop, dangit.

cashews_best_nut, in Every god damn time!

I use btrfs. Is there a reason I’d want subvolumes? What are they for? Why not just use partitions?

0x4E4F,

Snapshot software works with subvolumes, not with partitions.

shalva97, in It's OK if you cry

Never had problems with WI-Fi, but Nvidia Optimus

Hadriscus,

Good lord Nvidia fucking optimus

TootSweet, in Accurate?

I don’t understand why Windows is on the “no” side of “do you fear technology?”

Godnroc,

Well, the other side would be operating systems you can’t really screw up too badly because they are locked down harder, so perhaps it’s fear of the unknown?

helpmyusernamewontfi,

definitely this

people buy macs for macos or Chromebooks for chrome os because “windows just sucks because it breaks all the time” mentality you always see on Twitter

balp,

Or in the office, the hardware-software relations between the laptop and Windows and in some parts Linux are strained at best, where drivers, power management, and so on get crappy. E.g. after a year or two of updates, it gets out of control and nice things like hibernations don’t work. It’s usually a driver for some small thing you don’t care about that forgot to read the Windows specification change and now it can’t do that power handling in a good way. Oops the computer refuses to sleep and your bag is burning, your battery is 1% when picking the computer up again.

helpmyusernamewontfi,

I completely understand that with windows, especially with hibernation like what the fuck is “windows modern standby”

but with Linux, it depends on the distro you use.

if you’re using something such as Pop_OS, I can pretty much guarantee you you’re never going to run into a power management issue or even a driver issue for that matter since its based off of Ubuntu and is very well supported.

phoneymouse,

Agree. Windows sucks ass. Most professional software developers I know use MacOS actually.

SchizoDenji,

I’d give up half of my salary to use windows instead of macos for my dev work.

phoneymouse,

That’s a lot of money, but same sentiment in the opposite. I would avoid any dev job requiring me to use Windows. Chances are they’re also using some crap tech stack too.

SchizoDenji, (edited )

I’ve seen plenty shit stacks on macos tbf. Windows has better window management which saves a lot of time when you’re juggling between seperate windows.

AVincentInSpace,

There are way more windows power users than mac power users

balp,

I’m not sure, many developers use mac to get working unix tools and working “enterprise” tools at work like Teams and other crap that the company uses for “everyone”. Sadly many of these tools work like crap on Linux and maybe in best case the web-version is workable.

bravemonkey,

power

You’re confusing developers with power users here. At my company, the developers can do one thing well, but are far, far from power users with any technology. The amount of times I’ve seen them get stuck at a simple error message without doing more than throwing their hands up thinking they don’t have permissions or something is actually broken, without doing the least bit of troubleshooting is both baffling and frustrating.

FIST_FILLET, (edited ) in Accurate?

i’m gonna get crucified for giving apple a single benefit of a doubt but i think there are just as many windows users who “fear technology” as mac ones. think of all the grandparents running shitty dollar store pcs. mac is only a walled sandbox until you turn off the safeguards, then you can see exactly as much dumb back-end shit as you can on windows

Murdoc,

I think this is sdvice on what you should do, not what people actually do. This would be why there is such a big industry for windows tech support. Tldr: Windows: Be afraid, very afraid.

fl42v, in Accurate?

Replace kali with nixos, and it’d be accurate 😁 Also, gentoo.

And Kali is more like “are you older than 13 → no”

cocolopez,
@cocolopez@lemmy.world avatar

Kali is pretty much debian with extra toppings

zalgotext,

Debian with metasploit pre-installed and some fancy shell presets

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

also that random github python script you will randomly need lol

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
HiddenLayer5, in You should
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

At some point the Linux kernel will be patched to detect and terminate forking attacks, and sadly all these memes will be dead.

Zoidberg,

Just set your ulimit to a reasonable number of processes per user and you’ll be fine.

Cethin,

I doubt it. It’s the halting problem. There are perfectly legitimate uses for similar things that you can’t detect if it’ll halt or not prior to running it. Maybe they’d patch it to avoid this specific string, but you’d just have to make something that looks like it could do something but never halts.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

They could always do what Android does and give you a prompt to force close an app that hangs for too long, or have a default subprocess limit and an optional whitelist of programs that can have as many subprocesses as they want.

barsoap, (edited )

The thing about fork bombs that it’s not particular process which takes up all the resources, they’re all doing nothing in a minimal amount of space. You could say “ok this group of processes is using a lot of resources” and kill it but then you’re probably going to take down the whole user session as the starting point is not trivial to establish. Though I guess you could just kill all shells connected to the fork morass, won’t fix the general case but it’s a start. OTOH I don’t think kernel devs are keen on special-case solutions.

sus, (edited )

You don’t really have to kill every process, limiting spawning of new usermode processes after a limit has been reached should be enough, combine that with a warning and always reserving enouh resources for the kernel and critically important processes to remain working and the user should have all the tools needed to find what is causing the issue and kill the responsible processes

While nobody really cares enough to fix these kinds of problems for your basic home computer, I think this problem is mostly solved for cloud/virtualization providers

NikkiDimes,

That’s why I run all my terminal commands through ChatGPT to verify they aren’t some sort of fork bomb. My system is unusably slow, but it’s AI protected, futuristic, and super practical.

xaxl,

Seems inefficient, one should just integrate ChatGPT into Bash to automatically check these things.

You said ‘ls’ but did you really mean ‘ls -la’? Imma go ahead and just give you the output from ‘cat /dev/urandom’ anyway.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

I said “ls” but I really meant “sl”. I just wanted to watch that steam locomotive animation.

acockworkorange, in Every god damn time!

Mint automatically creates a @home sub volume if you install your root in a Btrfs partition. Just saying.

0x4E4F,

Yeah, Ubuntu does it as well. But other distros not based on Ubuntu, don’t.

Knusper,

Well, openSUSE did it long before everyone else. So, Debian, Fedora, Arch?

I would kind of be surprised by Fedora, too, as I thought, they shipped out-of-the-box automatic snapshotting, but the comment from @bruhduh sounds like that is still a problem…

acockworkorange,

OpenSUSE does this as default, which is laudable. Mint will only use Btrfs if you manually tell it to, it just handles it gracefully once you do choose to use it.

0x4E4F,

Arch, probably not, Void, most definitely not.

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah i was surprised as well) thought automatic btrfs partitioning by fedora gui installer would suffice, but it’s not, it did not had subvolumes set after installation, so timeshift btrfs didn’t worked, after i set subvolumes timeshift started working, but after update from 38 to 39 everything broke and locked up my ssd

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