Useless messenger
And no IPad version to
And no IPad version to
Tattorack, Discord on Linux kinda sucks, though. It’s more resource demanding than the Windows version and I can’t even stream with audio.
HiddenLayer5, (edited ) I just use Discord from my browser where it’s at least sandboxed and doesn’t have access to my filesystem.
Since it’s an electron app anyway it’s basically the same as the app.
art, I use it in the browser on Linux and it works fine. Everything works. They’re electron app is poorly deployed.
lastweakness, Nope, you still can’t stream a window with audio
Amends1782, I honeslty haven’t had any issues with it. But I’m sire others are. I feel like that’s the biggest challenge since there’s a ton of distros and architectures
JCreazy, Why are we installing Whatsapp to begin with?
nixcamic, Where I live everything is on WhatsApp. You want to get ahold of a business: WhatsApp, friends organizing a party: WhatsApp, want to check the traffic: WhatsApp.
MareOfNights, Same here. Just check out of society and you’re good (:
clot27, telegram GOAT
dan, Who uses WhatsApp anyway?
uis, Teachers and parents in Russia
Echrichor, Most people?
Ziglin, Unfortunately many of my friends that don’t use Signal.
flying_sheep, Basically everyone in Germany.
ADTJ, Most people in Europe
mightyfoolish, Facebook couldn’t bother making a proper Android app for years. Now you want them to make Linux apps? The likelihood is small…
pewgar_seemsimandroid, VIBER HAS A LINUX VERSION?!?!
also android is kinda linux
Ziglin, But also arm
uis, And leg
Desistance, Stop using Facebook products
RealPuyo, I’m tired of seeing it
cupcakezealot, “best i can do is a chromium only web app”
Dfy, (edited ) Works in Firefox for me
Mio, Even if it exists, then it does not have to be good. Look at Microsoft Teams.
WindowsEnjoyer,
gunpachi, I also hate it but unfortunately have to use it for work.
somenonewho, It’s a stopgap but Teams for Linux at least gives you Wayland support, choice of seperate window sharing and background filters
WindowsEnjoyer, Even if you look at Windows native version - it’s still trash. The chat client is disgusting bad.
uis, I used browser when I had to use it
camelbeard, They made it basically unusable with Firefox, so unless you also want to install Edge it really sucks
euphoric_cat, forgive my ignorance, I also hated teams when I had to first use it, but now other than it being a microsoft and probably data hungry app, what’s bad about it?
saze, It has indeed improved a lot over the last 2 years or so and is now actually quite a mature product, as much as I hate to admit that about an MS product. My biggest gripes with it are its refusal to acknowledge you may be using multiple devices (to this day) and MS’s insistence that a person only do one thing at one time (can’t edit calendar items while checking a chat, for example). Their Linux app is a joke and I’m better off running it from Chrome. The phone app makes the WiFi interface crash constantly and I have to run it off 4G; it is the only app I have this issue with.
Which brings me to another gripe. Teams documentation insists that screen sharing on Linux is not supported, and sure enough you cannot see the option for it while on a call with someone. However if you are in a meeting (with however many people), the option magically appears and works absolutely perfectly.
euphoric_cat, (edited ) finally, a decent response.
what do you mean by the multiple devices thing? also my experience has been mostly fine on the linux app, granted I’ve never been in a teams call, so it makes sense.
saze, Apologies for the late reply, still getting a hang of this!
By multiple devices issues I meant the following. Sometimes for example, I am on a Teams call on my phone but want to use my laptop to view screensharing stuff and join the call there too (without hanging up the phone). Teams will insist that my audio switch over to the laptop too and I have to manually disable the audio on the laptop and re-enable it on the phone. It shocks me that such a mature offering from a massive corporation still cannot figure out that I may want a screenshare/audio split onto two devices and ask me at least. Another smaller nag, if I want audio only on the phone, it will constantly bug me to tell me the incoming video is switched off. I kind of understand this however, I get that they want to let the average user know why there is no incoming video, but surely there ought to be a “leave me alone” setting for this.
pewgar_seemsimandroid, skype > teams
dan, Every damn thing?
Im_old, It’s so horribly slow and resource hungry. It sucks a ton of memory, a lot of cpu. Every time I start a video call the cpu fan goes brrrr
lastweakness, That’s just Teams on every platform though?
Im_old, Absolutely!
mayonaise_met, (edited ) No separate tabs to do various things at once. You can pop out chats and calls, but that’s about it.
It also struggles to connect with the right audio device everytime.
euphoric_cat, theres the open in app button I guess. I wouldn’t want to open any kind of document in the built in one because its so slow to load
pizzawithdirt, It’s a web app, you don’t really need a native application for it.
InFerNo, I just use discord via the browser. Why would I allow it to harvest my data as an app?
Chewy7324, Because the desktop app works without having your phone around, if I remember correctly. It’s a relatively recent feature.
InFerNo, Why do you need your phone around for the web version?
Chewy7324, The web version isn’t a standalone client like Signal, which registers as an additional device with e2e. WhatsApp web communicates with the WhatsApp app, so it doesn’t work if the phone isn’t connected to the internet (in early versions it had to be the same network, if I remember correctly).
I believe WA introduced a feature which allowed the desktop app to function standalone like Signal. Signal Desktop adds a second device with it’s own keys, so contacts send automatically messages to two devices. I’m not sure if it works the same for WA, and if they even have the feature. I don’t have a compatible desktop.
InFerNo, I never mentioned whatsapp, I don’t use it
Chewy7324, Oopsie. Seems like I missed discord in your comment. I thought you were talking about WhatsApp.
Flax_vert, Push to talk… And I think that’s literally it 😂
Amends1782, They have to do it on fucking purpose right? Only allow keybinds so you have to get the client so they can collect user data
Flax_vert, No, it’s probably because websites running in Chrome might lack the ability to detect keystrokes in the background. If they did, that’s a very very concerning security risk.
If they wanted to force you, they’d just disable the web app lmao
Amends1782, Fair enough
shea, i bet you could find some little tool to replace that easily. sucks though
Flax_vert, It makes sense. Websites in a browser shouldn’t be able to detect keystrokes outside of the tab
uis, (edited ) If you use JACK audio, then you can make it Unix-way. Or use hardware PTT.
EDIT: or just mute/unmute mic system-wide
lastweakness, The Windows-only app is way better. You can make calls for example.
ColdWater, And I still using email
pewgar_seemsimandroid, very unsecure mostly
Magrath, Whatsapp has always been behind the curve. Took them way too long to allow gifs.
h_a_r_u_k_i, I actually prefer that—a simple messenger without gifs and stickers, just plain text.
I’m not promoting WhatsApp in this case though. It’s one thing it’s done right, besides end-to-end encryption.
sederx, Stop using that shit
possiblylinux127, Its proprietary so that’s not a shock
RmDebArc_5, So is Discord and Viber
possiblylinux127, Neither of which run well on Linux. Don’t use proprietary software when there are other options
Pyroglyph, I’ve been running Discord just fine on Linux. It’s just a web wrapper, after all. What issues have you been having with it?
Ziglin, Recently it’s stopped opening links in my browser and won’t let me upload files to discord.
RmDebArc_5, Screen share on Wayland is completely broken
Pyroglyph, From what I’ve read online that’s a problem with Wayland not Discord.
RmDebArc_5, Discord was not made for Wayland and has failed to provide an update
optissima, Armcord has a plugin fix for that I believe!
Zangoose, Armcord doesn’t have global keybinds yet though (no push to talk/mute toggle unless you are tabbed into armcord) which is even worse imo
_user_, Last time I tried Viber, it ran fine on Linux, what issues have you had with it?
Discord also works pretty well, minus the white flashing when scrolling through GIFs for me
possiblylinux127, Viber and Discord aren’t free (libre) software and should be avoided. I’ve never ran them because of that reason. However, I’ve heard lots of complaints of proprietary mainstream applications not being great on Linux.
dmrzl, “Neither of which run well on Linux.”
“I’ve never ran them because of that reason.”
Yikes.
Octopus1348, I had a problem with Viber on Linux, it crashed when picking up or starting a call, but that was quickly fixed.
_user_, Admittedly haven’t tried calling with it, that being said I still need to reinstall it on my main laptop (only recently switched to Linux on that, was using an old laptop with Linux before that), so I’ll try some stuff again
pewgar_seemsimandroid, isn’t android somewhat linux
possiblylinux127, Not really. It technically uses a heavy modified kernel but that’s about it
108, WhatsApp is owned by Meta right?
TheLowestStone, Yes
108, Not sure why anyone would use it. I certainly wouldn't.
Che_Donkey, Couple reasons:
WhatsApp was its own company, took advantage of an open market in EU where SMS (and “international” phone calls?) were extra rate charges on mobile phones. Once every one got accustomed to using whatsapp Meta took it over and now we’re stuck with it.
meliaesc, (edited ) To communicate with anyone outside of the US, where it is extremely popular and is the main interaction with many businesses as well.
Pfnic, It’s almost impossible not to sadly, at least if you want to reach everybody in ypur contacts… It was the first popular messaging app here and inertia prevents people from moving to better alternatives now.
Octopus1348, Here almost everybody uses Viber or Messenger (I know Messenger’s also Meta)
pewgar_seemsimandroid, (edited ) viber > anything owned by facebool
Lolors17, Threema > anything owned by giant corporations
mayonaise_met, The reason is the network effect. I want to use signal or rather even an EU based messaging service, but everybody, including businesses, are on WhatsApp in my country.
nitefox, Yeah. Younger ppl are on telegram, but that’s worse than WhatsApp so not much to be done
pewgar_seemsimandroid, they should be using signal
nitefox, (edited ) In an ideal world, maybe. Hopefully we will see more of that thanks to RCS, since major players like WhatsApp, Message (Facebook) and iMessage will have to open up and be interoperable with other messaging systems.
So far, though, I’m stuck with WhatsApp (and iMessage for just one person!) and Telegram, nobody uses Signal here
pewgar_seemsimandroid, convince new contacts to use signal that probably should be a good starting point
nitefox, dude…
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