ADTJ

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ADTJ,

Conjecture: if you assume people also live on the hill, it would be easier to carry pails back down than to carry them up from the bottom of the hill.

ADTJ,

Yet somehow the Steamboat Willie version seems more likely to give you said exam whether warranted or not

ADTJ,

Not to be confused with a “Torquay Teary” when your family trip to Cornwall goes badly

ADTJ,

Agree with most of what you said except the “over 99% likely to be false”.

Like you mentioned it’s not possible to prove either way so it isn’t meaningful to describe it as likely or unlikely. We have no way of knowing (at least currently) so the likelihood is simply undefined

ADTJ,

It sounds like you’re referring specifically to Christian theology but the comment was just about whether a god or gods exist in general

ADTJ,

We’re not talking about creationism or any particular brand of theism

ADTJ, (edited )

I understand your point and I feel like maybe I’m sounding a little argumentative. Sorry let me try to be more clear.

I understand your argument is that genetic evidence disproves existing religious beliefs that people have but that’s a different argument to the point I was making.

Even if all global religions are incorrect, that doesn’t mean that a god or gods couldn’t hypothetically exist and my point is that there is no demonstrative proof of that either way.

If you check the original comment again, the question was about whether “a god(s) exist” and up until they mentioned the 99% that I was disputing, religion didn’t even come into it.

You could disprove every creationist claim, every anti-evolution argument, and you’d be right, but you can’t settle the question of “whether a supernatural being exists” because there simply isn’t a way to do that within the natural realm that we know of.

It isn’t just about God either. The simulation and Boltzmann brain hypotheses are similarly immeasurable

ADTJ,

No

You say it’s not immeasurable but then all of the things you go on to describe are within the known universe, we can’t possibly know or measure what’s outside of it, because it is not known by definition.

I’m not asking for negative proofs in fact I haven’t asked for proof of anything, I’m not sure where you got that from. I’ve simply stated that we can’t draw statistics about things for which we have no evidence - which you now seem to be agreeing with.

I said you were making a different argument because you originally talked about existing religions which isn’t what my comment or the original comment was about, I stand by that - nothing of what you had said was relevant to my response.

You can’t possibly know that it’s over 99% unlikely that the universe isn’t a simulation or that it wasn’t created by some entity since we don’t yet have evidence pertaining to any hypothesis for how it was created. The statistic was pulled out of the air and has no scientific basis.

Do I think the universe is a giant Boltzmann brain or was created by an omniscient God? No, I don’t, but it’s still pointless to pretend it’s something we can have any certainty about.

Not to be rude but this conversation isn’t going anywhere, whether you don’t understand or just don’t agree, whatever I guess…

ADTJ,

It all makes its way into the cold vacuum of space eventually

ADTJ,

In the UK, schools largely teach European French/Spanish/etc.

I wish more European countries would teach European (British) English.

ADTJ,

So your takeaway from getting older is just misogyny…

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