eruchitanda,
@eruchitanda@lemmy.world avatar

But they still won’t be able to remove all of the baked-in spyware.

atyaz,

Try Ubuntu, you can uninstall the baked in spyware

eruchitanda,
@eruchitanda@lemmy.world avatar

Snaps, I think I’ll pass.

Even without them, I don’t have time to uninstall/remove everything I don’t need.

DIY distros suit my needs more, but thanks anyway.

vegantomato,
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I understand that this is a meme, but dismissing one of the best distro family because snaps are included is dumb. It is easy to uninstall snap entirely.

The only serious bummer is that the Firefox deb-package is now fake and only installs the snap version of Firefox. Go get Librewolf, which is basically a hardened Firefox, and use their repository.

It is fun to meme around when it is with people that are familiar with Linux. But some Windows/MacOS users who are interested in Linux might take you seriously. Ubuntu and Ubuntu-like distros are really good in terms of ease of use, support and compatibility. My first recommendation for a new Linux user is Ubuntu or variations thereof.

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  • BigDanishGuy,

    Tried Debian stable, kept not being able to get stuff to work because of the packages always being too old. Not advocating for Ubuntu either, but Debian? For a desktop? GTFO! I’d sooner start using emacs instead of vim.

    M500,

    So many things these days are flatpaks and app images. So it almost doesn’t matter.

    I’m don’t know your situation but I’m sure there are reasons someone might not be able to use Debian desktop.

    IRQBreaker,

    A somewhat anecdotal comment here, but I’ve using Debian stable as a daily driver for years, both at work and at home. Haven’t had any issues yet. It’s so stable it’s almost boring. 😀 However, this is fine since I can focus on getting stuff done instead of messing about with the distro.

    Jumuta,

    isn’t ubuntu based on debian stable and so have even older packages?

    RmDebArc_5,
    @RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ubuntu has its own repos independent from Debians

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
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    Try Debian, you can install the spyware

    TrickDacy,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    I wanted to, and did manage to figure the installer out once, but damn it’s user unfriendly… The os seems fine, installer was not. I had some other issues I was hoping would be fixed in Debian that weren’t, so unfortunately I did not stick with it

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    The website is the least user friendly of all distros lol

    theneverfox,
    @theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

    Does debian even exist? I’ve never seen it… I’ve used a dozen flavors of “debian” Linux professionally, as well as the headwear related branches and centos… Most recently I’ve gotten into nixos (I tried a half dozen distros, none of the “Nvidia friendly” distros would work with my graphics card outside safe mode, even after debugging and official docs listing it as compatible with Ubuntu… Five lines in the nix config, will nix again)

    All this time, I’ve seen countless mentions of this mythical debian… at this point I’m pretty sure it’s just a meme, like Australia. I get Australia, someone mispronounced Austria and made up this wild story of a land full of deer who hop on two legs and kickbox (hilarious), but I don’t get the joke with debian. Is it just supposed to be the mythical Linux that works on any hardware configuration?

    Empricorn,

    Moving to an entirely different operating system is a big step just to… end up with closed, proprietary software and spyware again.

    ColdWater,
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    If you switch why not go alway? Try Linux from scratch or Arch/Debian, Ubuntu is only a few steps behind MS in term of spyware

    pineapplelover,

    You can try linux mint debian edition

    www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

    Honytawk,

    If it really was that much spyware, the EU would already have created laws to do something about it.

    More likely is that it really isn’t spyware as much as it is basic unanimous telemetry, which you can disable in the settings.

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