kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

Is the gnome we are talking about that one that for reaching the taskbar you have to move the mouse to the top of the screen and then immediately to the bottom every time?

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

I genuinely don’t know the last time I used the activities button, or the taskbar. To open activity view, I press super. To open programs, I search. To switch programs, I click on them in activity view

kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

I'm new to linux. Having things at hand is useful because I don't know the names to search or what keys to press.

omnissiah,
@omnissiah@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

You do you! It’s about what works for YOU, not what others think is best.

If you’ll keep using you will cross a point where you can make your own choice anyway (and that might be sticking by to what you’ve been using)

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, the one with great score when it comes to Fitt’s law which plays a huge role in UI design. When you put it that way it seems stupid to go from one edge to the other to reach an option. In reality it’s an easiest target to hit since it’s huge and requires no precision, edge to edge scroll.

kubica,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

I don't know if my screen is too big or my mouse is at a different speed. But for me it takes a lot of effort to do those big movements.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

For me as well, as I keep very low sensitivity. Am not even sure they imagined it being used like that most of the times. Am suspecting idea is to use Super key to open window preview and options are access from there. In that case it’s on average half of screen away.

But idea is there. Pretty much all OS designers implement this law in some way. Mac does it with their task bar and application menu. KDE, Windows and similar do it with theirs. However I understand your complaint that you’d have to scroll to the top then bottom, but doing so is easy.

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

If you aren’t using the super key to access that menu you are using gnome wrong imo. Three finger swipe on track pad is also a great way to access the same menu.

KDE is fuckin fantastic, but it aims to replicate the windows ui and workflow. If that’s what you want then I highly recommend it over gnome. But personally I don’t think that desktop UX should be stuck in the early 2000s Redmond style. Once I changed my habits to use my windows button on the keyboard instead of moving my mouse all over hell to access the menu it’s all I ever use. Mouse is just a fallback when the other hand is busy. I try every new KDE version because I kind of hate how the gnome devs act sometimes, but I can’t get used to that workflow anymore.

I hope cosmic is great.

reflex, (edited )
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  • jodanlime,
    @jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

    Agree to disagree I guess. I’ve tried changing the workflow in KDE to even resemble gnome and it just feels like you have to have a start menu with a taskbar. Sure, you could put that taskbar anywhere but it still operates the same as a windows 98 taskbar.

    Maybe I’m just not used to the KDE way of doing things but next year will be my 20th anniversary of using Linux. I’ve tried every desktop environment and window manager. All of them.

    I respect the KDE project but KDE makes me feel like I’m using a windows gui on top of Linux.

    mojo,

    KDE is not complicated

    01adrianrdgz,
    @01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar

    I once installed Kubuntu on my laptop and when I booted it, it was very overwhelming to see so many options, I realized it would take me two or more days, and it feels extreme, and you also need the terminal a lot. That’s why I love Ubuntu GNOME, but it’s ok if you like KDE Plasma.

    azerial,

    I installed a Fedora KDE Plasma spin and it enabled features on my laptop i didn’t know existed. It was nice. Windows 11 sucks. I’m happy to get rid of it.

    fl42v,

    Kinda depends: for me pretty much all de-s are complicated. I mean what happens when you want a de to do X? I used to go to settings/whatever, then google the problem in like 10 different ways when I inevitably don’t find it. And with wm-s you just search the wiki

    Aasikki,

    I thought kde users were windows users who are afraid of change.

    nitefox,

    It is accurate as you need to waste copius amount of time to get KDE to work without stutter

    azerial,

    Not my experience.

    nitefox,

    it is mine though

    librechad,

    We’re you using the correct drivers for your graphics card?

    nitefox,

    yes, I was. Also yes, it was a flagship gpu - the 6900 XT. KDE never worked for me, neither with the 1080ti nor the 6900xt… maybe it’s the AMD cpus, idk. Gnome has always been a stable experience though

    Diplomjodler,

    I use Cinnamon. What does that make me?

    Justas,
    @Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It makes you spicy.

    covert_czar,
    @covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    This is more like desktop enviromment vs window manager users

    Abnorc,

    Are there people that use window managers without using desktop environments? I thought that one is a component of the other.

    brisk,

    Absolutely, there are a good few window managers designed to be standalone. I use AwesomeWM and i3 is very popular.

    If you don’t need a full desktop environment it’s nice to have something that mostly stays out of the way.

    prunerye,

    I don’t think you need to go full WM-onlyism to find yourself unable to relate to Gnome users. There are probably a handful of KDE users who still use Chrome, but we usually have some shame. We’re not, like, trying to form HOAs in our neighborhoods like Gnome users are, probably.

    Parastie,
    @Parastie@lemmy.world avatar

    Listen, we have all moved to hyprland for the pretty animations.

    qyron,

    I’ve run MATE for nearly a decade and am now running XFCE, preparing to jump into a window manager as soon as I get a machine for my exclusive use.

    What does that make me?

    bpcomp,

    You’ve got to XFCE it MATE. It makes you a nerd like the rest of us.

    treadful,
    @treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

    Fluxbox users are in the walls!

    Sanyanov,

    The latter is more about i3 users lol

    Treevan,
    @Treevan@aussie.zone avatar
    Napain,

    inacurate, they are all femboys

    Vuraniute,
    @Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

    TWM Users/Ricers:

    Scrollone,

    I used to be a GNOME fanboy, but then GNOME 3 came and I can’t stand it. Now I’m a KDE fanboy

    vox, (edited )
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    i actually kinda like gnome since gnome 40 release.
    it still sucks to use on small displays like laptops tho due to all the padding everywhere
    also gnome’s touchpad gestures and multi-desktop management is superior to that of kde.

    Aasikki,

    Gnome is awesome on my big ultra wide monitor but sucks balls on my old laptop with a 768p display. I think the meme is backwards.

    vox, (edited )
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    it doesn’t suck balls that deep on 768p, but you’ll be basically working with one fullscreen app per desktop

    Aasikki,

    Well yeah it’s usable but I’d rather use even windows at that resolution to be honest even though I’m somewhat of a gnome fanboy.

    AnUnusualRelic,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    That was me with gnome 1.1 or 1.2, when they replaced the window manager by something way less configurable.

    KISSmyOS,

    Luckily Xfce exists which gives you back all of the configurability of old Gnome.
    Move those panels around, add as many as you like!
    Me, I’ve just looked at screenshots of old gnome and can’t remember why I ever thought 2 panels visible at all times were a good idea.
    I love current gnome, cause with a single extension I can hide literally all of it until I need to bring it up with the super-button. And then I have my favorite apps, open windows, workspaces, systray, clock and a search field all visible at once.

    AnUnusualRelic,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    Too little, too late. Kde does everything, already did ages ago. There’s no reason for switching.

    KISSmyOS,

    Same here.

    superbirra,

    yeah, my mom uses kde

    Moshpirit,
    @Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

    Your mom rules.

    joyjoy,

    I am hacker man.

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