Poor Mauro: they weren’t good at what they loved, they blamed others for their failings, and their community leader was nuts.
Jokes aside, we’ve already got toxic right there. Linus isn’t right, but someone like that would be fired with good cause. It’s one thing to make a mistake, it’s quite another to blame your co-workers for your own shoddy work.
The 23rd is the day before Christmas. We celebrate the eve here in the Nordics. The 25th is the relaxing day after Christmas when you eat leftovers and do fuck all all day.
Actually one day before Christmas in Finland and other Nordic countries. I don’t know if Linus still celebrates Christmas like that, having resided in the US for a long time already, but the big celebration is here always the 24th of December, and 25th–26th is mostly just resting after it.
I find it ironic that Linus’s explanation for ENOENT being invalid for an ioctl given its meaning of “No such file or directory”, while simultaneously ioctl can return ENOTTY when using a mismatched device fd despite the error meaning “Not a typewriter.”
In the following responses Mauro was very professional. l haven’t heard much about recently but Linus had some high tier anger issues. Most of the cases I was following back then he was right, but desperately needed to cool off.
I wonder if the guys here who are moaning like the snowflakes they are about Linus’ way of conveying the message (not the message itself) are from the US? I sometimes really wonder about the US mindset. The boss is critisizing you justifyably but in an inadequate tone? Hell breaks lose. But as an employee insisting on healthcare, an adequate number of days on paid time off, unionazing or at least have an able workers’ representation? Nah, that’s unheard of.
How about having some priorities? Grow a pair and chose your battles more wisely. The boss criticizes you? If he’s right, own up to your mistakes. Want some rights you are actually entitled to? Yeah, that’s what you fight for.
Don’t allow your boss to speak to you like that, unionize, and fight for your workers rights - including the right for dignity and respect, listed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, but also for higher pay and better working conditions.
After twenty plus years of watching LKML and Linus’s behavior in general, I have to concur with you. Reading a lot of the ‘linus is an asshole’ threads, there’s generally a clear runup towards an outburst.
Just recently he called some developers out because it seemed evident they weren’t testing their patchsets on bare metal. So it’s not just code that gets called out, it’s also development methods that end up causing upstream pain.
The fact that people here value feelings and pretty expressions more over quality, standards and passion shows exactly how human civilization will decline into mediocrity and sickness.
Your subpar ability to understand that the self fellating anger in that email is in no way something that generates quality and standards says much more about the decline to mediocrity.
Nonsense. It’s simply that that kind of conduct is deeply unprofessional and reflects poorly on Linus. He could have said the exact same things about the issues with that patch without the obscenities and personal attacks.
I’ve worked as a software team lead for nearly 30 years, you do not get the best out of people by belittling and berating them.
Why so many people see letter as containing onlt 3 words and ignore part where Linus says that maintainer shouldn’t randomly blame userspace, how unrelated error code is(it’s like if your router crashed with message “there is no milk in the fridge”), repeats that maintainer shouldn’t randomly blame userspace, asks if patch good enough, says “WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE”,
I’m angry, because your whole email was so horribly wrong, and the patch that broke things was so obviously crap.
The fact that you then try to make excuses for breaking user space, and blaming some external program that used to work, is just shameful. It’s not how we work.
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