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Kinglink, in Here's all the source code

Legally they had been served, so there was nothing they could do about it.

Somehow I doubt this.

Maybe it’s true but legally I know in California you are required to do your briefs in 12 point font. While that’s briefs, I would imagine evidence would be under the same banner. It definitely WOULD be illegal to do it in 1 pt font or intentionally making it unreadable. I would imagine if the other side wanted to make it an issue they could back to the judge and he’s probably have it out with you.

Maybe the lawyers wisely replaced your malicious compliance with correct sized print with out telling you, maybe the other side didn’t care.

ExtremeDullard,
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This was in Utah. I’m no lawyer. Maybe it wasn’t legal. What’s what our lawyer said he did.

FeliXTV27,

I don’t think the font size matters too much in this, it’s just the printing the whole source code, including a lot of not directly relevant things, and sending all of that over in a few boxes instead of sharing the project files with them that is very malicious.

rumckle,

It’s also very common in legal cases to share evidence printed out, instead of in digitally, to make sure it isn’t easy for the other side.

Repossess6855, in Here's all the source code

So fucking based

csm10495, in Here's all the source code
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Please tell me all the newlines were removed from the source code and it was minified to save paper.

Jamie,
@Jamie@jamie.moe avatar

Oh man, if you gave a programmer minified C code with no comments, whitespace, or newlines in printed paper, they’d probably charge more than your lawyer to read that shit.

Chunk,

If it were digital you could pass it through a pretty printer.

propaganja,

You could scan it and that would easily be the fastest way to actually deal with they problem, minified or not.

Ret2libsanity, in Here's all the source code

I stare at Linux source code very often looking for vulnerabilities.

I unironically have printed pages out to sit down with.

The idea of having the whole kernel printed… is… fun. Lol. How would your organize it for reading? Different chapters that are the directories of the kernel code ?

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Why would they organize it in any way? It was not one of the requirements… so, alphabetically.

EN20,

Obviously and we are talking per line and not per file are we?

Llewellyn,
@Llewellyn@lemmy.ml avatar

Per byte

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Alphabetically, per bite. It is beautiful.

waigl,

OP said it happened around the year 2000. Linux was at maybe 2.4.something back then. The kernel was much smaller then than it is today.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Imagie if they included modern AMD GPU drivers.

a1studmuffin,
@a1studmuffin@aussie.zone avatar

I’d love to hear more about this - do you do it professionally (for preventative reasons), as a side hobby, or as an attacker for malicious/selfish reasons? No judgement, genuinely curious as it takes a certain personality type to do this kind of work and I find it really interesting.

Ret2libsanity,

Professionally

My title is senior vulnerability researcher. Focus on mobile devices. That’s all I can really say without doxing too much

But the Linux kernel is always a juicy target because of the coverage and exploit there gets you.

crbn,

Neat. Why is Linux kernel relevant for many mobile users? Is iPhone built off of it the same way Mac OS is?

What do you mean by coverage and exploit?

drcobaltjedi,

MacOS is based of a BSD distrobution of Unix. iOS is a fork of MacOS

crbn,

Ah ok makes sense

SwingingTheLamp,

MacOS and iOS have Darwin as their base, which is really a mutt. Apple started with the NeXTSTEP kernel, which was a mix of 4.3BSD and Mach, then folded in some FreeBSD, other open source components, and some in-house code.

It’s Android that uses the Linux kernel as its base, and the millions of phones makes it a juicy target.

crbn,

Not too surprising that iOS has linux in its DNA, but never realized Android does too. Always assumed it was more windows-based. Good to know.

kbotc,

iOS doesn’t have any Linux.

FreeBSD is not Linux. Linux is a kernel and Apple uses Mach, a different kernel. They do both share that they’re POSIX, but OS X is actual, factual, UNIX, and Linux has never paid the money to qualify.

Butters,
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How different is the FreeBSD kernel from the Linux kernel?

Like in terms of interfaces, if I were to port a device driver, am I just changing some header files and some constants/enums/ifdefs?

Or there’s like entirely different function signatures / APIs?

kbotc,

I would look at the source of LinuxKPI to get an idea of how different they are.

Butters,
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Well of course I could go look at the source code. We had to write a hello world Linux module in college. Was just being lazy and thought some expert might give a quick synopsis.

Though based on your reply, I’m guessing they are more different than I imagined.

crbn,

My bad I’m conflating bash and Unix. From my end both apple and Linux use bash so they have the same underlying base…but I realize that’s not accurate, and even unix and bash are not synonomous.

ngdev,

I think they just stare at it, hoping the vulnerabilities come to them in a moment of revelation. A Linux Joseph Smith, the kernel playing the part of the Golden Plates.

morgan_423,
@morgan_423@lemmy.world avatar

OP said this happened in Utah, so maybe so!

HamBrick,

The small overlap of my two largest hobbies, programming and making fun of Mormons. Perfect.

MyFairJulia, in Here's all the source code
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

So you like source code? Well then! HAVE ALL THE SOURCE CODE IN THE WORLD!

Rayspekt,

Yo dawg

pastermil,

I heard

Deckname,
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You like

Artinizal,

Source code

thebestaquaman,

So we

swab148,
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Put source code

Butters,
@Butters@lemmywinks.com avatar

In your source code

wanderingmagus,

So you can

BeigeForce,

Source code

Ryantific_theory,

While you

Butters,
@Butters@lemmywinks.com avatar

WE DID IT LEMMY

CheshireSnake, in Here's all the source code
@CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

So we printed the entire Linux kernel source code including my driver in 5-pt font

Please tell me you used comic sans.

BeigeForce,

Doubly-devilish as it’s not fixed width. Microsoft Bob would be proud.

ExtremeDullard,
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I hope they did. Now that you mention it, it would have been an amusing twist :)

iks,

Printed in wingdings + given ascii conversion table to decypher

TauZero,

The year is 2025. A massive geomagnetic storm has fried all forms of technology, wiping out hard drives and solid-state drives alike, and scrambled all backup tapes. Coincidentally, a new plastic-eating bacterium has munched on all the compact discs without anyone noticing.

Humanity will rebuild…

The computer chip manufacturing pipeline has been restored, but there is no software to run them. In a dusty office previously owned by a lawyer from a long-defunct dotcom, a treasure trove is discovered. Five metal cabinets filled with paper: the printed Linux kernel source code, in 5-pt comic sans font. One brave soul will enter to transcribe. Mistakes are not an option. We all thank you for your sacrifice.

LeFantome,

Final twist, nobody can compile it because it uses GCC extensions that no recovered compiler supports.

ReginaPhalange, in Here's all the source code

Just out of curiosity…
How many pages were there?

ExtremeDullard,
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I don’t know. I didn’t do the printing. The law firm did it. But I remember our lawyer mentioning that they fedexed over 20 cartons of printing paper. Assuming 500 sheets per ream and 5 reams per carton, that would be 50,000 sheets, or 100,000 pages since it was printed on both sides to be even more annoying.

popekingjoe,
@popekingjoe@lemmy.world avatar

That’s beautiful. Simply beautiful.

Danatronic,

Damn. Did they ever find your actual source code in there

ExtremeDullard,
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

No idea. That company folded before it could even respond. It was a typical dot-com with a completely ridiculous business model. That’s why our lawyer decided to fight the suit: he figured they’d collapse soon anyway, so we might as well milk the lawsuit for the publicity.

Boinketh,

How much did it cost to print?

Wats0ns,

Approximately one forest

HamBrick,

This just made me briefly wish lemmy had awards

HamBrick,

Since Lemmy isn’t pay to win, you get this: 🎖️

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Your lawyer destroyed a forest to comply maliciously. Sort of not the best way to do it IMO.

ngdev,

Na, they’ve got managed forests and it’s fine. Your comment had me google to see and it’s actually pretty interesting.

LeFantome,

As somebody who lives in an area with an active logging industry, I can tell you that parts of the world with an economic interest in their forests still have lots of trees whereas areas that do not are very likely to have destroyed most of theirs.

The relationship between paper use and the environment is not what you think it is.

jxk,

Epic!

BeigeForce,

Please tell me they used bike couriers.

fugepe, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule

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  • Neve8028,

    I’m sure that the pageant organizers specifically wanted trans men to join /s

    lemonflavoured, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
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    Clever way of protesting it.

    thisisbutaname,

    Agree. They can’t reject them without exposing their transphobia

    AngryBear,

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  • krayj, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule

    I think it would have been fair to have a rule saying “no surgical modifications”… because doing things like facelift, nose-job, breast/buttox implants, cheek lifts, wrinkle removal, etc, are obviously unfair advantages (in a beauty contest) for those who have the money pay for it; and having a generic blanket rule like that would have accomplished the same thing they were trying to accomplish without being so blatantly transphobic… so a rule like what they have only proves that they are both despicable AND dumb. The entire notion of beauty pageants is outdated and stupid if you ask me.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    On the one hand, that might work. On the other hand, who gives a fuck about the rules in a contest with arbitrary standards?

    Chunk,

    People who insist on pushing themselves into every possible corner of society will focus on anything that is unequal no matter how meaningless.

    VirulentAura,

    What is this word salad? Could you rephrase using your own words, please, instead of parroting something you think you heard?

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  • Exatron,

    It’d help if you weren’t spewing bigoted nonsense.

    Chunk,

    Do you did understand the first time ;)

    Exatron,

    It’s not hard to understand that you’re a bigot.

    Chunk,

    Someone is upset. For someone claiming to be enlightened you sure are aggressive.

    LegionEris,

    You have a lot of learning to do about enlightenment. Gutei cut off a motherfucker’s finger to get him a little closer to enlightenment. Violence is inherent to true enlightenment. When the enlightened meet the buddha, they will kill the buddha.

    VirulentAura,

    Friend, I’m going to try to be gentle, and honest, and I hope you will listen with an open heart and mind.

    I came out to myself, and my wife and kids about a week ago. I was born with the mind, the spirit, the personally, the essence, whatever, of a woman 37 years ago. I have been living as a man, conforming to society’s rules for 37 years. It took me four days, two hours at a time, to feel 40% of the way you do, just by waking up.

    Note: I don’t know what gender you are. I don’t actually give a flying fuck. The point is, if you want to go sit in a sauna with your peers, you can. I can’t. All the normal experiences you had, weather you was born as a girl, and was annoyed that your mom made you sit still so she could fix your hair, or as a boy playing catch with your dad or working on the family car, you got that. You got to go to prom wearing what you want. Hell, you can go take a shit at the mall without people giving you dirty looks.

    I can’t.

    Trans people don’t want to insert themselves anywhere. Society wants to exclude them from everywhere. It may seem pointless that it’s just some beauty pageant, but imagine you have this beautiful car you built, by hand. You even had to so much custom shaping and fabrication, but goddamn is she pretty. Let’s take her to a car show, shall we? Wait… You can’t show off the car you’ve literally spent years on? After all this time, after you spent all this money, all this time, hiding away. You are scared. This isn’t a mass manufactured car, what if you get made fun of? It’s fine, it still has the shape of a car, and it’s so pretty, and you are so proud!

    What… it isn’t allowed? It is a gorgeous car though… They say it isn’t actually a car, just a bunch of shit someone slapped together. You can’t just take a Ford, strip it down to it’s frame, rebuild it peice by peice, and still call it a car. You cheated, and it’s wrong. Hell, for good measure, they tell you you can’t even register to drive it. It now sits in your garage. Collecting dust.

    If you don’t understand my allegory, you are you, the car is your true sense of self, your “transgenderism” if you must call it that, the car show was gonna be the pageant but I spaced out and it became representative of society as a whole for a minute…

    You are absolutely right that we want to be accepted. You’re accepted. Why can’t I be like you? Why do I have to be scared my step brother is going to beat the shit out of me just because I have to take a piss? You can go to the store and just… Grab a gallon of milk without having to worry about some bigot stalking you and hurting you just because you wore yoga pants because you think you have a nice ass. I’m nervous to step into my own backyard to have a cigarette without an entire man-costume on. You can literally put on whatever the hell you want, step outside, and and shout at the top of your lungs “I’m here!” And nobody will bat an eye.

    If I put on whatever I wanted, stepped outside, and met you for the first time, pleasant as can be, your preconceived notions would be that I’m some weird bundle-of-sticks-word that need to go inside and has no place in society.

    TL;DR: Trans people are people too

    useragent13,

    Holy shit touch grass

    charolastra,

    I’d say you’ve diluted this otherwise poignant allegory with a tablespoon or so of word soup.

    charolastra,

    What is this, word salad?

    VirulentAura,

    What is this, a kindergarten reading level?

    charolastra,

    What is this, your only comeback?

    Chunk,

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  • VirulentAura,

    Okay, I’ll make it simple since your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired: your bias is keeping you from allowing people to be themselves. The fact you don’t see a problem with an entire subsect of people being excluded from an event shows that you are a disgusting person that shouldn’t be allowed in public.

    Chunk,

    You have no right to command my attention, yet I’m not surprised you think so.

    UFO64,

    No, what they have is the ability to do so, as expressed by your replies.

    Exatron,

    You certainly seem to care, sparky.

    UFO64,

    Yet you feel the need to tell them how they should act?

    If they wish to participate, it’s their right to attempt to join. I just think it’s wonderful that the pagents clear policy of hate is backfiring so publicly.

    SamHandwich,

    Since that lima bean didn’t want to read what you wrote, I just wanna say I really appreciate it and you.

    clockwork_octopus,

    Is that it that “activists want to insert themselves and their cause into every possible area of society“ or is it maybe that trans people are actual living breathing humans who are a part of every possible area of society, and they have the right to exist and live their lives in peace, same as you?

    The only people in the story that are “forcing” anyone are the bigots who are actively attempting to ban trans people from competing, but they’re doing it poorly. Not surprising, since most bigots lack critical thinking skills.

    Diprount_Tomato,
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    Going through cosmetic surgeries in a contest that values cosmetic aspects is all but meaningless

    betheydocrime,

    So, no contestants who have had their wisdom teeth removed? No one allowed who has had a C-section? No cancer patients who have had biopsies done?

    Lenins2ndCat,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    I think it would have been fair to have a rule saying “no surgical modifications”…

    How are you intending to prove that that? Only the bad surgery makes itself obvious.

    SamboT,

    Does saline glow under a blacklight?

    chocobo13z,

    Only if you drink enough Gatorade 😂

    krayj,

    Like any kind of contest, finding rules violations is hard and not foolproof. It’s like sports that forbid using steroids - competitors do regularly take those substances while training, then quit taking them for competition and go uncaught. Competitors who are discovered later to have been violating rules are stripped of titles.

    That said, I don’t think it’s a very controversial concept that a beauty pageant shouldn’t be a contest about who could afford the best surgeons. Well - as I said earlier I think beauty pageants are absurd to begin with, but if they have to exist I don’t think it should be a contest between surgeons.

    Lenins2ndCat,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    They are absurd and it’ll probably be a good thing when we’ve got past their existence. But the problem here is that proving surgery is essentially impossible. It’s quite unlike drugs that you can test for. Maybe implants you could test for but that’s just one thing, and I’m not sure that beauty pageants even have the kind of budget required for advanced tests.

    Syrc,

    One of the contest’s rules says you can’t participate if you willingly had a nude photo took in your lifetime. Good luck proving that (not even considering how it’s a honeypot for revenge porn to surface)

    DefenestrableOffense,

    That they don’t allow nude photos is super revealing about what these “beauty” pageants are really about.

    Syrc,

    What, if I might ask? I’ve always found the requirements just a hodgepodge of random stuff with no coherent purpose whatsoever.

    Deuces,

    Though I would watch one that was a contest between surgeons. I imagine it’d start pretty tame, but the first time a girl with cat ears wins, were only like 5 years from the really crazy shit

    Reliant1087,

    This would be hilarious if it happened.

    dustyData,

    Lol, you implement that and basically all beauty pageants stop existing. Which would be a good thing, mind you. But I’ve never met a pageant contestant in my life that isn’t … let’s say … heavily enhanced by medical procedures.

    AngryBear,

    You’ve met a lot of beauty pageant contestants yeh? How many?

    Shardikprime,

    Farmers, farmers mums

    Diprount_Tomato,
    @Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

    which would be a good thing

    Based

    itscozydownhere, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
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    For context, Miss Italia is no longer broadcasted on important tv channels and almost no one watches or care about who wins now. Years ago (10?) it was a big thing and winners would make commercials and do movies/series and be remembered for life. But it’s too an old school concept now

    Anyway, I love this turn of events

    Source: Italian

    fiat_lux,

    I'm glad to hear Italy is moving past its Berlusconi era.

    Here_in_Malaysia,

    Does this mean we won’t be able to see it live? Or at all?

    itscozydownhere,
    @itscozydownhere@lemmy.world avatar

    I just googled it, apparently it might come back to the first national tv channel for 2023, we’ll see, anyway it was streamed on the official website before that and for the last 4 years

    Here_in_Malaysia,

    Will they have the power to reject candidates? Maybe I’m naive to think they’ll have the trans men compete too but I wanna see how it’ll play out.

    itscozydownhere, (edited )
    @itscozydownhere@lemmy.world avatar

    I think they totally can reject who they want… usually competitors are the winners of local beauty contest, so there’s a lot of ways to be excluded before even reaching the last decision stage. But not sure, I never really cared for it

    Here_in_Malaysia,

    Aw… I see. Thanks for the answers, I appreciate it.

    itscozydownhere,
    @itscozydownhere@lemmy.world avatar

    Of course 🙌

    Skellybones, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
    @Skellybones@lemmy.world avatar

    Let’s goooo guys! top spot is ours

    candio, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule

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  • SatanicNotMessianic,

    I’m pretty sure there’s neither pastors nor priests involved, so you don’t have to worry about degenerates.

    fugepe,

    I have yet to see your group denouncing degenerates. Crazy thing they defend them lmao

    SatanicNotMessianic,

    I hereby denounce all priests and pastors on behalf of whatever group you think I represent lmao

    I likewise denounce republicans, rapists, racists, and other rapscallions lol

    Taleya,

    Ikr, vote for bigoted idiots, get idiotic, bigoted policies

    admiralteal,

    Are the people who run Miss Italy an elected body?

    Taleya,

    whooosh

    gmtom,
    Gerryflap, in Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
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    Absolute chads. I’m curious what kind of response this is going to get.

    Diprount_Tomato,
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    “You’re not beautiful enough for a contest about female beauty with your male presentation, therefore we reject your application”

    Cold and passive-agressive, just like an actual organisation would answer

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