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cyborganism, in copium28

What a fucking farce. Unless the people take matters into their own hands and topple their governments, nothing will ever happen.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

seeing the incumbent party in my home country watering down environmental protection rules to benefit(and later benefit from) crony capitalist friends even as they persecute activists, I think it’s over.

it’s too late for class consciousness.

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

We are 100% going to suffer, but I think we can still survive as a species if we act quickly.

If worst case scenario comes to fruition it would be sweet to at least not let those bastards live to 100 and die peacefully in their sleep, on their cozy air conditioned beds.

RobertOwnageJunior,

I am not generally pessimistic, but i think it’s just over. We won’t do shit.

Eatspancakes84,

This is too negative. We are making some progress (mostly despite governments). Kurzgesagt has a great video on this that is both based on fact and somewhat hopeful: youtu.be/LxgMdjyw8uw?si=K4oUpRAHbGro18We

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i think most people will wake up when hunger and extreme heat comes to knock on their door. im not sure if its gonna be too late by then.

i do see the seeds of revolution starting to germinate, that looks like it will come first.

scytale,

The problem is you can’t get people to organize and work together if everyone is worried about where to get their next meal. Hell, people can barely even do that now; how much more when that time comes.

Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s exactly when people come to work together. The French Revolution happened because people were starving.

umbrella, (edited ) in copium28
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

wait, were people expecting something to come out of yet another climate conference?

repeat after me: we end capitalism, or we die.

affiliate,

i’m sure they’ll think of something new on the 28th one

rwhitisissle,

To be fair, if we die, capitalism goes with us.

ieightpi,

We figured out the cheat code

AlecSadler,

Serious question…how do we end capitalism?

Like, even a near-term steps to take would be sufficient. I’m just feeling a bit run down these days. It seems like when we, the MAJORITY PEOPLE, get a win… we’re slapped in the face with ten other losses. Fascism is on the rise, inflation is insane, housing prices are insane, here in the US there is a legitimate chance Trump might win again which is extremely disheartening.

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

We organize. Lenin literally wrote a manual outlining the basic general steps, and those were used successfully all around the world by the working class to take over the state. It is also a great way of fighting fascism.

We organize worker unions, then start using our power of collective bargaining and strikes to force them to concede more and more. All that while building a paralel socialist party and bottom up councils to direct the decisions, this party will eventually take over the state. In an ideal world this can be done nonviolently (it did initially happen peacefully in russia) but the elites will resist so we have to be prepared and strong enough. Along the way we may need to arm ourselves, save up on food and necessities to defend against the state violence that will come. For that we need a good chunk of the population onboard but its definetly possible. About half the people in most countries are already convinced voting can only bring the lesser evil so half the battle is done for us.

This is just one way, of course there are several schools of thought on the left about how to do it. Anarchists have an interesting idea of just building the all institutions we need parallel to the state too, although their method never worked on a large countrywide scale, it works pretty well for smaller communes.

Ram_The_Manparts,
@Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net avatar

repeat after me: we end capitalism, or we die.

lenin-laugh

Chinzon,

I agree, it takes a lot of copium to believe that all of this “phasing out by 2050” shit itsnt straight pandering. Its like a smoker with lung cancer saying they’ll quit in a few years. We are hopelessly addicted to our lifestyles that depend on fossil fuels. The only one thats ultimately going to shift our society is mother nature when she eradicates us through famine, extreme weather and chaos

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I didn’t have much hope. however, after seeing yet another record hot year, I thought maybe this time people in power would do, or at least pledge to do something.

now I’ve truly accepted my fate. that I, along with billion others whose role in climate change is practically zero, will bear the most(provided we live that long).

Gradually_Adjusting, in it's always the hard to scrape stuff too
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Fellas, this guy doesn’t know the beans trick

Nobody tell him

Gazumi, in 80085

JUST 2 short responses and space apart in time. I don’t think they are nterested at all!

comrade19, in copium28

The head of the climate conference… Is the head of an oil company. Oh my gosh this is like a Ricky and Morty episode

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

COP

In UAE

Conflict of interest for Money

It was in front of us all along

https://media4.giphy.com/media/9PaC2UWEsnIG6nXcsn/giphy.webp

Spesknight, in it's always the hard to scrape stuff too
burntbutterbiscuits, in copium28

You mean the climate summit…… in fucking Dubai? Lol

elvith,

Dubai isn’t necessarily a bad place per se. Like… “do you like it here outside w/o air conditioning? That’s your average winter in the Antarctic in a few years, if you don’t act.”

Problem is, it’s not done this way…

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar
WhiteHawk,

Not necessarily a bad place, but definitely one with a huge oil industry

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Huge? UAE’s blood is oil. It’s a capital of eastern luxury and one of remaining monarchies because they sell oil. They are still a partner to everyone in spite of murdering journalists and whoever they dislike - because they sell oil. They build these absurd skyscapers, ski resorts in a desert, all their places are extremely air-conditioned to be tourists-friendly, all thanks to selling oil. Even including them there is an embarassment, because they grew up that vulgarly unsustainable thanks to oil money. It reads like an Onion article.

WhiteHawk,

Fair enough

andrew_bidlaw, (edited )
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

I wasn’t arguing with you, but adding to your point (:

WhiteHawk,

Fair enough :)

TheRealKuni,

Did UAE murder journalists? I know Saudi Arabia did.

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

The latest case I recall is them helping Saudis to kill Jamal Khashoggi. While the killing was on Saudis, AUE put Pegasus on their phones and later detained a lawyer on this case, an american citizen.

burntbutterbiscuits, (edited )

Yea maybe they could have the climate summit in their fucking outdoor air conditioning soccer field…. There should be plenty of room there, in the whole fucking outdoor air conditioned stadium.

One thing I can say I’m half certain I read that Biden wasn’t going.

He may have had early intel about the summit pres being involved in the drama,

I burn on Biden a lot.

But I’m glad he didn’t go to this one.

Immersive_Matthew, in does it hurt?

But…this is guys at all ages??? If it was a cold day, it would be the opposite.

radioactiveradio,

And sometimes you panic cuz you can’t find one because it went up towards the abdomen.

Ozymandias1688, in A masterpiece about our society, all the burdens and manipulation, and breaking free from it

Boils down to reject modernity, return to monke. With a bit of vaccines=bad thrown into the lot.

Pantherina,

Yup the vaccine part is pretty controversial

AVincentInSpace,

Don’t forget the entire section that’s literally just “big pharma is a scam and medical degrees are an excuse to sell you drugs”. no Sharon I am pretty sure ADHD is real

sgbrain7, in Ha got eem

He has been bamboozled

don, in Ha got eem

YA DUN GOOFED

Sureito, in It really do be like that sometimes

Caffeine does not wake you up. It just hinders your brain to accept more sleepy chemicals, which means you only ever stop getting more tired. If you think “but coffee wakes me up!” Think again - does it really, or are you just normally drinking it, when your body wakes up naturally? For best effects, caffeinate yourself, when you are most awake.

flashgnash, (edited )

I’ve definitely had it wake me up the first time I drank it, was grumpy and tired late in the evening, had a shot of espresso and was bouncing off the walls

ErKaf,

Placebo is a hell of a drug sometimes.

gsfraley, (edited )

That’s factually false. Its main mechanism of action is adenosine antagonism, but it does cause a rise of blood adrenaline, as well as a release dopamine and norepinephrine to a handful of systems in the brain.

It’s true that it doesn’t improve mental acuity, and can leave you in an exhausted-but-anxious state, but saying it doesn’t actually stimulate you or wake you up is incorrect.

Rekonok, in Ha got eem
@Rekonok@sh.itjust.works avatar

Poor cat just wanted a keyboard for himself

Early christmas

idunnololz, in Something like that should exist!
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

It’s easy to appear better when it doesn’t have to make any sense.

netchami, in Ha got eem

Am I seeing Reddit there?

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