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DragonTypeWyvern, in Cunning Linguist

One might call him the Jordan Peterson of the left, if one wanted to piss off everyone.

Custoslibera, in Gold for house

If you had of invested the equivalent amount of money in the Dow Jones index instead of purchasing 10kg of gold and kept it invested from 1920-2024 you would have ~$15 million.

UnverifiedAPK,

This, precious metals are a hedge against hyper inflation. Not an investment.

crimsonpoodle,

So I get the idea of a hedge, but I guess the question on my mind whenever I hear talk about hyper-inflation is “what are you going to do with the gold if society collapses?”. My thought is that if the world economy got so fucked up that the US dollar was worthless, and the government didn’t step in, then wouldn’t we sorta be in a failed state? And if we were in a failed state is the plan to sit on the gold in some sort of fortress to wait for civilization to come back? Hoping that you can defend it and that the incoming civilization doesn’t just take it?

unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov,

I’ve always assumed you’d melt the gold down and create coins or other tradable sub-amounts of the gold that you could exchange for goods and services. If people are still peopling, they’ll still want a currency to transact with; if the dollar has failed then gold has a historical precedent that would probably make it easier to convince people to trade with you using it as a medium of exchange. It always seems like it’s more suited to be an emergency measure than a plan A to me.

Ross_audio,

If society collapsed, resources required to survive have primary value. Food, water, clothes.

But the idea of money will still exist. Precious and rare metals will be worth something in a barter economy.

If you think it would be difficult to defend, you know it would still have value.

The easiest way to defend it is to keep it secret.

This is the way the world worked for a long time. That’s why the idea of a treasure map exists.

jabathekek, (edited ) in Gold for house
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

In 1920, the average price of gold per troy ounce was $20.68USD[26.2 kB pdf]; 1 Kilogram = 32.15075 Troy ounces. Average house price in the 1920’s was https://brilliantio.com/how-much-did-a-house-cost-in-1920/.

$20.68 USD * 32.15075 oz t = $664.87751 USD * 10 = $6648.7751 USD

In 2023, the average price of gold per oz t was $1,940.54 and the average home price was https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/real-estate/median-home-prices-by-state/.

$1,940.54 USD * 32.15075 oz t = $62,389.81641 USD * 10 = $623,898.1641 USD

This meme is credible, excepting errors in my assumption that 1 kilogram of gold is equivalent to 1 kilogram of common material.

pingveno,

At the same time, it picks and chooses its dates. Gold has been volatile, with the price oscillating between $2,100 USD in 1980, $470 USD in 2001, and back up to $2,200 USD in 2011.

jonsnothere,

The meme may be true, but it is less meaningful than you might assume at first glance. The obvious comparison is those memes comparing wages or dollar values with house prices, where obviously inflation has made a huge difference in 100 years. However, you should compare it to other types of investment, so does a stock index grow as fast as home prices or not?

Wasweissich, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

I married at 22 over 20 years ago did not regret a day… I think a happy marriage is just a lot of luck a lot of self reflection and effort. No matter the age it is not a self running maintenance free system

Custoslibera,

Luck is something I didn’t consider.

lunarul,

I met my wife in high-school, we married at 21/22, it’s going to be our 19th anniversary this year. So yeah, definitely go lucky, and I would discourage my kids from doing the same even though it worked great for us.

Custoslibera,

Very interesting perspective that you wouldn’t encourage your kids to do the same as you, why’s that?

To be honest if my kids married at 20 it’s not like I’d try to stop it, despite my reservations about it. I’d think it was a potential mistake but that’s coming from me as concern rather than disapproval.

IdiosyncraticIdiot, (edited ) in Gold for house

10 kg gold Dec. 2023 = ~$727,591 = $2062.92 * 10 * 35.27 oz/kilo

10 kg gold June 1920 = ~$105,810 = ~$300 * 10 * 35.27 oz/kilo

seems much higher than the respective housing cost for an average home in both cases

price ref

skydivekingair,

$300/oz in 1920?

dlrht, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

At what age are you supposed to know what you want for the rest of your life? You will never have an answer to that in any capacity, and not just in marriage. You evolve as a person, you’ll never have a fixed desire for your whole life. And that’s the great thing about marriage and relationships, they also evolve. And it’s about who you want to try doing that with

Kit,

At what age are you supposed to know what you want for the rest of your life?

Maybe around the year that the brain finishes developing, which can vary from person to person but is typically around the mid 20s.

dlrht, (edited )

I see/hear about marriages started at 30+ 40+ 50+ all the time that fail. I see people pivot careers and industries in the middle years of their life. People tastes change all the time as they get older. Let’s not pretend that when your brain finishes developing you suddenly have life figured out/know exactly what you want

I generally agree that getting married before 24 is a pretty risky move and you have to have thought it through very carefully, but the argument that “you don’t know what you want for the rest of your life” is not the reason why that is. It relates more to life experience/emotional capability/massive foresight. Marriage is more than just “wanting something for the rest of your life”, it’s a commitment, it’s not just some eternal desire you may/may not have

InfiniWheel,

I feel like it might come from the fact most relationships are pretty short before you are 24. Few people hold onto long lasting relationships by that age and few (at the time) short ones develop into anything reliable.

A former classmate of mine met a guy and got married after knowing him almost a year, like right out of highschool. Last I heard of her they went through a messy divorce couple of years later, which we all saw coming and tried telling her about.

dlrht,

That sounds more like an issue with that person not being open/receptive to her peers advice. And I think this is true for many people beyond the age of 24 as well

SnotFlickerman, in Gold for house
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

wood for sheep?

I almost missed this.

I’ll just quote myself from my last game where I had a monopoly on the sheep…

YOU DARE COME TO THE MASTER SHEPHERD WITHOUT A TITHE IN HAND?

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

This is Catan meme? Because there’s no gold in Catan, or im confusing it with other game.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The title is “gold for house” and the body is “wood for sheep” implying they are a similar type of trade, not implying both are from Catan.

Neither “gold” nor “house” exist in Catan.

Lemminary, in Gold for house

I feel like one of these is off by a 0

Fox,
@Fox@pawb.social avatar

10 of these will buy you a house in 20230

BillDaCatt,

The bar in the picture is one kilogram or about $65,000 US dollars. Ten bars would buy a very nice house in my area.

juliebean,

it might get you a small fixer upper in my home town.

Taleya,

Meth lab or woop woop in mine

Tb0n3,

Currently worth $650,000. I don’t think it’s off.

skydivekingair,

Which one? Gold was $20.67 per Troy ounce in 1920, that’s about $664.55 per kilo. 10 kilos about $6,645.55 I’m believing the first search result countryliving.com/…/what-things-cost-100-years-ag… says that matches up. Gold is about $64,900 per kilo today so $649,000 for 10 bars, that’s a low cost of living middle class place or HCOL very small house that needs renovation. I could see you meaning these days and houses in some areas are in the $6 million range, guess they should be location specific.

ikapoz,

Median home price in the US last year was about 450k, so I’d say your scale is a bit skewed.

skydivekingair,

Yeah I was going to say Upper Middle Class but I’ve seen some dumpy houses for those prices and it’s really titled by if you bought when interest rates were low vs the last year or so.

shalafi,

Jesus. Got my house 7-years ago on a Habitat for Humanity mortgage, for which you pay cost. ~85K? Also, no interest on the loan. Also, no property tax.

3-bed/2-bath/80’x200’ lot/1,140sq. ft. living space/$550mo.

Call your local Habitat chapter, go to the next meeting and learn. Keep going with the program if you can. Took my ex-wife and I 14-months, start to finish.

I can’t tell you the qualifications, they change and are different from one area to the next. I can give you some basic answers, at least I’ll try.

GombeenSysadmin,

Where did you get the gold price? This page says $269.

versionist,

He’s taking kilograms, you’re talking ounces.

skydivekingair,

It’s weird though my 1920s price research shows $20.67 per Troy Ounce. Example: sdbullion.com/gold-price-by-year

I might be mistaken and that’s the US government’s set price for gold in the early 1900s, a lot of these other links show it closer to 10x that value.

sharkfucker420, (edited ) in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

If we make it to 24 that’d be 8 years of dating and id feel bad not marrying her by then. My only caveat is I want to be out of college by the time we marry tbh

I’ll probably still go to grad school but I’d atleast like my BS

UnverifiedAPK,

That’s what we did, it just turned out that we were together for 7 years before everything fell in to place. We got out of college, got our careers in order, and bought a house. Then married the next year.

Sanctus, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah! Just be with them for 15 years dragging your feet like a normal person!

Spacehooks, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

I don’t think ppl getting married is wierd before 24 risky sure. Having kids before 24 is crazy. Like 2 years in workforce at minimum. Barely time to be able an adult before a parent.

can,

Barely time to be able an adult before a parent.

Which always ends up unfair to the parents and children.

Son_of_dad,

I much prefer being a young parent, than the idea of raising teenagers in my 50s or 60s. I much rather have all my fun, travel and adventures with my kids or will do with my wife when we’re older and the kids moved out

Spacehooks,

That’s fair. My mom was a teenager when she had me so it’s interesting watching her going from rebel teen staying up watching horror movies to ultra Christian as she got older. I feel like my siblings which are all 5 years apart benefited from less beatings and more income. I will say my mom had sooo many marriages (she’s on #7). It would’ve been nice if she found the one before they got baby trapped into our lives. 1-6 were dumb as f. Personally I loved the huged age gaps between us. Never felt the siblings issues we saw in Malcom in the middle but that wasn’t in the cards for me to have as a parent. So there are plus and minus to it overall.

nyctre, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

The age at which you meet has nothing to do with it. Healthy relationships are about evolving together. If you can’t do that or if you do it separately, that’s when it falls apart. Sometimes you’re lucky and you find a compatible person early, sometimes you don’t. That’s all there is to it.

CowsLookLikeMaps, in How I like my pi

Follow-up question: what open source software projects do you contribute to? I like using Liberapay or Open Collective, with Patreon as a third choice.

Touching_Grass, (edited ) in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

Marriage is about my happiness and according to AITA and TwoXChromosome my husband is a toxic spouse and I need to leave him, force my kids into poverty and go out there and just be happy without those lead balloons. Marriage over do it now

Imgonnatrythis, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

Not going to try to change your mind about this opinion, but I’ll take a stab at shaming you for being so vocal about a thought that is very much “othering”. Maybe turn down the judgement a bit, you don’t know people.

sixty,

You’re weird

some_guy,

What’s truly insane is people who marry under 20. And if you think it’s possible to know who you are and what you want at that age, you have a very simplistic view of the world. Or you’re brainwashed by those who reared you, ie you have a very simplistic view of the world.

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