ShimmeringKoi,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

This also applies to international politics

Sarcasmo220,

When I was in middle school I got into at least two fights in an outdoor stage that was in plain view from all the windows in the admin office. No security, teachers, or anyone else ever noticed.

I’d like to think it was more because they were these small fights where no one got seriously hurt, rather than the staff not caring at all.

ninjabard,

The best bully defense is an overwhelming and unrelenting offense. Yes, I realize there are many reasons why bullies bully. As one who was bullied constantly up through middle school, the only thing that made them stop is when I lashed back. Not mediation; not getting teachers involved; not ultimatums. Make them regret choosing you as their target.

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

As someone that got bullied through middle and high school i relate strongly) but unrelenting offence don’t work when your bully have influential parents, in my case that was it, and i got labelled as near fricking war criminal, even though i was bullied middle schooler, but you’re absolutely right about common cases)

devfuuu,

If they believe someone is a criminal already then just escalate things and appear in their houses in the middle of the night while they are sleeping. Worse than a bully only supportive parents. They all deserve the same treatment.

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Preach) 🙏🙌

drathvedro, (edited )

Sent two to ER, didn’t help. Damn kids have no self-preservation instinct, especially bullies for whom playing with fire is their entire thing.

In my opinion, the school is just a glorified daycare and it’s terrible at it. Kids are inherently dumb and because they are dumb they are cruel. And, worst thing of all, is that they take example from others so putting them up together is the worst idea possible. Kids should be surrounded by adults, not other kids. I will do my best to prevent mine from going to school, or, at the very least, make sure they attend a smaller one with reduced classes. Less kids = less problems.

Candelestine,

Authorities will always immediately quell any currently-happening hostilities when they arrive on the scene, that’s a clearly necessary first step in order to figure out what the hell is happening. A common bullying tactic is to bait the person into fighting back, knowing that the anger will push them so far they get in trouble.

You see, the bully has enormous amounts of experience and practice at toe-ing this precise line. The quiet kid does not, they’re quiet, they don’t run into it very often. The bully knows this.

So, if you absolutely must hit back because nobody and nothing else is helping, do it quickly, decisively and cleanly, and then stop. Re-arrest your own feelings, and go back to calm. You probably will still get in trouble, but the other kid is more likely to get in trouble with you. And you’re less likely to do medically significant damage anyway, if you just hit once instead of wailing on the bully for a solid minute, so, that’s better for everyone. If you actually really hurt the kid by accident, that’s a whole different ball game, you don’t really want that. You just want them to stop doing this in the future, that is all. Deterrence for the future is different from revenge. Revenge is impractical because of how extreme it is, it can create feuds, make things worse. He can avenge your revenge, if you are too harsh. But simple deterrence is a different story, when you’re not too harsh, and instead using just enough force to get the safety that you want.

devfuuu,

All reasonable and logical things. But someone bullied accumulates permanent damage for rest of their lives. A bully should expect full repercussions to the max. I sure wished a bunch of them would get run over by cars of broken some legs. They deserve it.

Hnazant, (edited )

I smoked my bully in front of everyone. He stewed for a few years, then told all the black kids I called them the n word behind their backs. That was the end of any sports for me. They hated me. Some 10 years later I left a party to got get a keg. When I got back luckily someone warned me before I got out of my car that he had arrived and stirred up the same shit. Yep, should’ve stopped at the one punch. Good lpt.

PopShark,

As I grow older I often forget how much kids and teens suck in how they treat each other sometimes

lightnsfw,

do it quickly, decisively and cleanly, and then stop.

I once punched a dude that was fucking with me in the mouth right in the middle of science class while the teacher had her back to us. He just sat there with a stunned look on his face and stopped. Later after school I ran into him coming from the other direction while I was leaving and he was yelling threatening shit while we were approaching each other. I just kept quiet and kept walking towards him and when I got within speaking distance he said something like “you like punching people in the mouth?” and I was just like “yeah” and kept walking past him. I really thought he was going to attack me but he didn’t do anything and didn’t fuck with me after that.

agitatedpotato, (edited )

These situations taught me there’s no reason in holding back, you’re going to get in trouble for doing the right thing. May as well really earn that punishment. I can’t even imagine trying to deal with your bully in the age where everyone has a pocket video recorder. Make a statement I say.

SlopppyEngineer,

That’s what schools with zero tolerance policies teach children: hit the bully with extreme prejudice as you’re punished anyway even for defending.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

LPT: Have a friend distract the teacher before you beat your bully’s ass.

Senseless,

Or beat up the bully on his way home. Damn, that was a good feeling… sigh the good old days.

FartsWithAnAccent, (edited )
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

I broke their wrist in art class after they hit me with a chair. Got suspended of course, but it was worth it: People didn’t really fuck with me after that.

Senseless,

I hit him so hard the whole bus heard it. Since a lot of students hated him they chanted to hit him again and I so I did. Also didn’t get bullied for the next three years. The valuable lesson I learned this day was: stand up for yourself.

FinalRemix, (edited )

To be fair, the bully’s doing it for attention. The quiet kid’s doing it for survival.

Cysioland,
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

It’s bully solidarity.

DessertStorms,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

Ding ding ding, this is the correct answer.

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