I’m one of the people who has stopped coming here. I’ll keep visiting occasionally but the lack of content and pro-east/anti-west rhetoric is just as irritating as the maga/conspiracy crowds on reddit.
Large portions of Lemmy feel similar to places like /r/sino on Reddit. Personally I like to look at that stuff from time to time just to keep tabs on that flavor of propaganda, but it’s pretty detached from reality.
Do you visit here/Reddit for some news alongside other stuff, or more other stuff than news?
If the latter, you can somewhat avoid the rhetoric back & forth by blocking out a lot of the news communities, but then you do run into the general content problem more (especially if you’re also blocking memes).
I am still on Lemmy. It’s still my primary timewaster. I was clean from Reddit until a few weeks ago and I relapsed. The app is shit. Lemmy feels more like what I loved about Reddit but without the content. Reddit still has content but the app doesn’t feel good to use.I m stuck going back and forth. First to Lemmy then to Reddit. I’ll stick with Lemmy until it gets better or it dies.
When I don’t feel satisfied with Lemmy I try to go back to Reddit too, but I was so mad at them a couple weeks ago I uninstalled their app and now when I tried to install the app, they give me a list of my former BANNED usernames as an “option” to log in but they offer no option to log in under any of my VALID usernames. (Yes I do have some accounts that haven’t been banned but they won’t let me login to my good ones.)
The only options they give me are to sign in with Google or a previous banned account. They clearly don’t want me there. which is probably a good thing because this evening I went to the gym instead of wasting time on this… What should we call it… discussion format?
In the early days of Reddit it’s motto was fake it until you make it. It was a ghost town so they set up an army of bots to generate content and fake activity. Not much has changed tbh.
tbh its true: apart from my french instance where i like to hang out, most of Lemmy is just memes, Linux related posts, or self hosting posts. No meaningful content for ur average person really. In fact i scroll throu ‘All’ in new and reach yesterday’s posts in just few minutes, given the amount of ‘not so meaningful content’ i am filtering …
Exactly. also inputs from experts who chime in on the subject are really useful, like a semiconductor engineer suddenly replying in a comment section. There’s not much of it here thou. Yea there is sorta this lag time between Reddit and Lemmy in whichever get wind of the news first, i even, used to be a reddit reposter just to somewhat help seed this place
There are too many dimwits who think Lemmy was made so that they can build their echo chambers. So, there is no discourse, just stupid people encouraging stupid people. Anyone that comments otherwise is immediately removed.
Most mods are dumdums. Most are obviously politically and ideologically motivated. It’s their job to prune anything they disagree with, which means they can’t help themselves and ban everyone. Most of the time it’s a complete waste of time to comment in smaller subs. The dumdums have taken hold either by making the subs and controlling them, or by volunteering as mods with no oversight.
Funny enough, this is the same exact reason why Reddit sucks. Those same idiots who made that platform insufferable have migrated here and made this already insufferable place even more insufferable.
Last week there was a woke-not-woke argument in certain StarTrek post that was like one quite moderate guy against 1000 angry people. At least in reddit there was some debate posible and it was respectful for the most part, here you get dilapidated before even be able to explain yourself. Lemmy is too politically driven as you said. And that’s insufferable.
Six months ago lemmy was infinitely better than reddit in that regard. It’s gotten worse because people from Reddit are here now, and brought their idiocy with them.
I don’t think is the bad people of reddit but the people Who want to fight that found lemmy as a mean to clash with reddit … but once here is not about fighting but make it flourish and build community so… maybe people is unable to stop clashing everywhere. Fight is the nature of … that people.
I tend to think that : where there is a ton of people that adopt an aggressive and absolute position against you there’s a ton of people silent that are afraid or tired of fighting against a tide ( or is caloric economy) . I agreed somehow with the guy but I didn’t say a thing to avoid the pain.
And to be honest this Star Trek thing is going on and on since some years ago so no… imho is not something clear or absolute.
Politics REALLY are ruining a lot of things nowadays.
Oh I hadn’t even thought of that. I have two accounts because when I started using Boost for Lemmy, my home instance wasn’t supported, so I signed up for startrek.website.
My old account would appear to be an inactive user in the numbers, which is not really accurate. But also it means that bump in users that happened during the reddit exodus was partially driven by duplicate sign ups.
Yeah I lurk most of the time and comment on neutral topics sometimes, but generally the content isn’t too engaging.
It’s either memes, Linux (or memes about Linux), or this or that type of politics. Lots of bot-generated content, too many American-based sports teams; lots of repeating topic content (e.g. shitload of musk, trump/biden/whatever), lots of community and/or news duplicates. I won’t be lying I’ve seen like 5 reposts of some amd threadripper news in my active feed within 10 pages.
Sometimes I know that engaging into a small comment will yield zero replies, and other times I feel like the response will most likely be frustrating. What I valued about reddit is diverse topic discussions, interesting questions and fun reads. But people seem to have more fun bypassing my anti-politics filters in-between porn. I honestly think we need to revive many communities related to questions, interesting topics, and overall “lets-have-a-chat-on-something” (preferably not related to what I mentioned above, or at least that touches a broader audience).
Do I contribute a lot? Am I the one to tell people what to do? I don’t think so, but when I have a will to create some content, that will is usually cut off by zero-to-none expected engagement from other people. People wanna do what they wanna do, I guess. I don’t blame em.
I won’t be lying I’ve seen like 5 reposts of some amd threadripper news in my active feed within 10 pages.
It’s true and one of the pitfalls of the de-centralized model. As a poster I try to crosspost the same link across servers to multiple communities big and small, as a way for people to “discover” niche communities.
I’m in full agreement on how there should be more laid back “chat about something” content. You might interested in having a look at beehaw.org (not federated with LW or SJW), that has !chat and that server might be more your speed, I personally like it a lot. Bee sure to read and follow the spirit of the server rules.
I honestly think we need to revive many communities related to questions, interesting topics, and overall “lets-have-a-chat-on-something” (preferably not related to what I mentioned above, or at least that touches a broader audience).
Have you subbed to the various AskLemmy/Ask[instance]/NoStupidQuestions/Out of the Loop communities across here?
To my own amusement, I found sh.itjust.works has several question communities that I tossed some posts to here & there.
Also although I haven’t sorted out what I might want to post in them, there’s these chat communities for other discussing other topics besides those you highlight getting plenty enough discussion:
My god, the amount of Trump shit I see on here is insane. I despise the cunt, but god damn do I really need to scroll past like 15 posts a day about the shit stain? Even on Reddit they didn’t suck his cheeto dick so much
I dunno. I blame lack of engagement. We have to post content. Engage. I see tons of posts upvoted but a huge lack of OC. If we don’t use the platform, it dies.
Yeah, remember the reaction when that one post got popular about lemmy being boring for anyone that wasn’t a SWE/Linux user?
People got so pissed off, one of the top posts on lemmy that day was something to the affect of “fuck you, we’re not obligated to post things you like”. Which, yeah, you’re not - but you also can’t blame people for losing interest in your platform when you only have active discussion on one or two relatively niche topics.
The fact is that Lemmy is garbage for discussing hobbys or interests outside of a few niche areas. On reddit my feed was filled with woodworking, 3d printing, Astronomy, and other topics that get very little traffic on lemmy.
My lemmy feed is mostly politics, then SWE stuff, then memes
Wait… Are you guys not doing the Highlander thing? Because I’ve been cutting the heads off of other Lemmy users to absorb their power, but if there can actually be more than one true Lemmy user then wow… That is some egg on my face, but anyway the monthly users should start increasing again once I stop!
Sincerely, the 900 or so Lemmy users I for lack of a better word now “represent”.
Feels Very circle jerky here. Its low effort commentaries on political issues mostly and extraordinarily little growth of niche interest subs. The lack of content here helps curb my doom scrolling, so that and a real hate for reddit leadership and the pathetic Simps that think writing “fuck Spez” while still contributing content to his network for free is a form of effective protest, are all that keeps me here though.
This is my take on Lemmy as well. I was impacted by the removal of third party apps because I used Reddit as a mobile quick reader between activities where the bite-sized format of title -> elaboration -> brief discussion was great, but maybe a little too much. On Lemmy I don’t feel the need to keep reading. This also means I wasn’t invested enough in Reddit, so when they made clear their disdain for the users, I simply left. Nothing there is important enough to keep going.
Lemmy is definitely lower quality though. All is primarily single topic outrage and there is a significant amount of extreme rhetoric that makes me feel like I’ll be put on a list for reading, which would have been removed on Reddit for lack of civility or worse. The niche things don’t exist and, even if I wasn’t a bite-sized mobile user and had the time or thoughts to form a community, these Reddit clones are always most active at political… discussion users can’t express elsewhere and that tends to kill the niche hobbyists who don’t want to look at or be surrounded by that type of passion. So it’s difficult to curate a personal feed of anything but that.
Lemmy still works for my use case and it’s about the next best thing to Reddit. I do think the “circlejerk” feeling is contributing to the decline though, and wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up like Voat.
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