MeowZedong,
@MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Sure, it was for spices, definitely not for money.

It was a different time. We don’t do that anymore!

JustMy2c,

Don’t get high off your own supply… Still true, we import and export more as we consume.

MeowZedong,
@MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

But those trade relationships are definitely equitable these days, right?

…right??

letsgocrazy,

Like, we bought and sold spice… For money.

People obviously wanted spice and paid for it.

That’s how trade and industry work. We didn’t just bring back exotic rocks.

sexeducation,

You should read some educational books, maybe try some Marx ones before you grow up some hair

ByteWizard,

It’s good to read Marx books, but history books are better. That way you can see examples of how socialism always fails due to human corruption.

JustMy2c,

Isn’t Marx the one that never worked nor had any money his entire life? Yup!

TWeaK,

The English have tikka masala, the Dutch have satay chicken.

HawlSera,

They really did did Kill millions of people to get spices and then decide they didn’t like any of them.

UlyssesT,

BUT THERE IS SOME REALLY GOOD CURRY IN THE UK BECAUSE SOME CONQUERED PEOPLES WERE COERCED TO THE OLD IMPERIAL CORE TO TRY TO ECONOMICALLY SURVIVE SO TAKE THAT frothingfash

Bassword,

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  • UlyssesT,

    I didn’t even deny anything specific about the colonially seized food; I was reflecting some very loud seething that got brought up during older dunks on jellied eels or beans on toast.

    Bassword,

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  • UlyssesT,
    alcoholicorn,

    They weren’t wrong about jellied eels being the only protein the working class could afford, hence why they stopped eating that crap as soon as they could afford anything else.

    Beans on toast with ketchup on the other hand is as indefensible as percolated coffee; there’s easier ways to use those same ingredients to make something that isn’t awful.

    rbos, (edited )
    @rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

    Theres a lot of great dutch food! I will defend pannenkoek, stampot, oliebollen, Gouda, spekkoek, krokets, poffertjes, stroopwafel… hell, I love pickled herring.

    Dutch food is very underrated!

    DarthBueller,

    You forgot the frikandel speciaal.

    rbos,
    @rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

    I was unaware! I will try it earliest opportunity.

    kattenluik,

    Patatje oorlog, patatje joppie, spekkedikken and frikandelsaus. There’s a lot of things!

    AquaTofana,

    Bruhhhhh whenever I finally start losing this weight I’ve been packing on, I look forward to a stroopwafel warmed over my black coffee every Wednesday morning.

    Holy fuck people don’t know what they’re missing.

    Zerush,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    Compared with English food it’s certainly first class. British gourmets only survive, because in GB are a lot of Chinese, Japonese, Greek, etc. Restaurants

    gmtom,

    Also you know the mitchelin star British restaurants.

    BigDanishGuy,

    Pickled herring is Danish, spekoek is Indonesian and Gouda is bland.

    Hagelslag though, that is something I definitely miss.

    Maybe the herring is Scandinavian, but we’re not going to credit the swedes with this one, they lost that right when they started with the lingonberries.

    kattenluik,

    Gouda is anything but bland

    SwingingTheLamp,

    It’s possible that people think of Gouda as that stuff which comes in the standardized, plastic-sealed block of rubbery cheese that most American grocery stores carry. That is bland. One might mistake it for the Monterey Jack next to it, were the labels switched.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’ll still happily eat it, but yeah, real Gouda has flavor.

    kattenluik,

    That makes sense! I’m currently in the US and have only seen Gouda once and it tasted nothing like it, in the Netherlands there’s also many varieties of Gouda that all taste very different.

    It’s very strange seeing Dutch products on the shelves here.

    rbos,
    @rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

    Some people confuse mild and delicate flavours with bland, too. Young Gouda isn’t particularly strong but it’s good and still distinct.

    reddit_sux, (edited )

    They might have had good foods when they looted. Paying for good stuff is not what they do.

    sexeducation,

    They paid you with basic education

    reddit_sux,

    We had better education before they came.

    The same education which gave you polynomial equations, the concept of zero. Without which Europe will have been where it should be in the dark ages.

    sexeducation, (edited )

    Better education? You killed babies for it to rain lol

    You still use imperial system, that our fault too

    reddit_sux,

    You are confused between Europe in dark ages and Asia.

    These debauchery and barbarism was Europe. Only thing you have ever done is loot, pillage and create divisions and problems across the world.

    Genocide and slavery is the only achievement of Europe, rest everything they have pillaged from others.

    sexeducation,

    Tell me you are American without telling me you are American

    reddit_sux,

    Not an American

    sexeducation,

    Even more funny than 😊

    feedum_sneedson,

    cum

    sgbrain7,

    This reminds me of an old post I remember seeing where it depicted the contrast between anime food and English film food with some eggs. The anime ones were drawn with utmost care to look downright heavenly, while the English film eggs were very scraggly.

    EvolvedTurtle,

    Genuinely I want more foreign food to be more common Like I live in the US so it’s pretty common it’s just hella expensive

    Unless you get the questionable Americanized version like taco bell and panda express

    sgbrain7,

    I agree. That’s why foreign import stores are pretty cool.

    T1000,

    Dutch and British food isn’t bad, unless your a yank that only eats things pumped full of sugar.

    JungleJim,

    No we asked mainland Europe and they agreed.

    2Password2Remember,

    dutch and british food is dogshit lol. how many italian restaurants are there in the UK vs. how many british restaurants are there in italy?

    Death to America

    JamesConeZone,
    @JamesConeZone@hexbear.net avatar

    You mean you don’t want your pickled eggs served by blackface Santa? smdutchh

    T1000, (edited )

    Spaghetti and pizza aren’t bad but nothing to wank about. Also there’s British and Irish pubs in every city.

    CloutAtlas,

    Google “Stargazy pie”

    Google “Jellied eels”

    Google “mushy peas over chips”

    T1000,

    Google chicken livers, scrapple, hot dogs, deep fried butter, hersheys chocolate. All pretty gross.

    windowlicker, (edited )
    @windowlicker@hexbear.net avatar

    don’t make me bring up the mountain of grease-soaked fried foods that brits find acceptable as a meal. even as an american, i haven’t seen so much fried food in one place. and i’ve been to the southern united states many times.

    Satanic_Mills, (edited )

    Fat is where the flavour is.

    I also made Puri today, and it turns out deep frying bread makes it taste better.

    late_night,
    @late_night@sopuli.xyz avatar

    What about Dutch pancakes? Your choice of toppings, covered in syrup. Divine.

    ElBarto,
    @ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I played too much red dead, I’m like " I don’t remember a character named Brits.

    jaybone,

    That’s why they needed spices so badly

    The_Walkening,

    TBF to the Dutch, the regular food they serve you at a restaurant nowadays beats the USA by a mile.

    Rolive,

    That’s a low bar.

    vanderbilt,
    @vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

    My Jamaican friend once said: “How many times do I have to tell you people flour is not a spice”.

    Chakravanti, (edited )

    I’m jealous of the funnt spices they have now. 4-MMC

    wombat,

    stroopwafels are good

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