adam_y, Dunno, have you ever had a curry in Birmingham on the mile?
I went with two American colleagues and one of them couldn’t finish his ‘medium’ heat dish because they said it was too spicy.
Raz, That may be so, but curry isn’t exactly a real British dish. It’s Indian food.
adam_y, (edited ) Careful, that’s like saying that the guy who made it, who was born in the UK isn’t really British either.
Pretty much all food is imported.
As someone else mentioned. The Tikka Masala was invented in Britain.
Italian pizza, the most Italian of dishes, didn’t exist until America was ‘discovered’ and tomatoes brought back from the new world.
Same with the Irish and potatoes.
TheBat, Careful, that’s like saying that the guy who made it, who was born in the UK isn’t really British either.
Umm what so you mean by ‘the guy who made it’? Curry has existed in Indian subcontinent, in various varieties, for hundreds of years. It wasn’t first concocted in UK in 1960s.
adam_y, I think you misunderstand.
What I mean is the man who cooked the curry and served it to me and my two companions. He’s of Asian heritage but was born and raised in the UK.
Does that mean that he’s not really British?
What if he sees himself as British. Is he then culturally appropriating Asian food?
Because that’s the argument being used about the food too. That dish was cooked in a kitchen in Birmingham. It has Asian heritage too. But is it not the British food?
TheBat, Oh great, pedantry!
When people say that’s not a British dish, they are talking about origin of the dish. Not where it was made today.
There are thousands of restaurants serving pizza in India. I’m still not going to call pizza an Indian dish.
adam_y, Oh fuck off.
I’m making a point about the international nature of food, and the way in which it relates to identity, and you seem determined to take it in bad faith to truss up your own weak argument.
Ok, here, have a win. You’re right. You are so totally right. Well done. Enjoy the glory.
TheBat, This much seething and malding isn’t good for your health. It might affect your reading comprehension even more.
lugal, We are talking about importing spices to use them in the country. It doesn’t even matter where the cook is from. Even the most Indian guy can’t prepare an Indian meal without the ingredients
soggy_kitty, Chicken tikka masala is a British dish
TheBat, Possibly. It’s a disputed claim. And with 48 different recipes.
OhNoMoreLemmy, Most curries you can get in the UK were invented there.
As a quick rule of thumb, if it looks like it has gravy or thick sauce someone from India wouldn’t recognise it
TheBat, What?
Mate, we’ve been making gravys and thick sauces before the Brits came along. Especially people in coastal regions who use coconut in nearly everything.
emergencyfood, I think British people have a very different definition of gravy - more like meat juice thickened with flour and optionally some other stuff like caramel and onions. As I understand, they don’t put vegetables, herbs or spices.
TheBat, Well, they’re missing out.
soggy_kitty, Yeah exactly my thinking, Indians would be disgusted by an englishes northerners gravy. They have no idea
RupeThereItIs, It’s almost like, in such a huge country, there exist people with different tastes.
I, an American, went to India once. The hotel restaurant had a breakfast buffet. On one side was a glorious Indian spread. The other was some nauseating English breakfast spread, with like baked beans (that’s for summer BBQs not breakfast!).
Anyway me and my buddy head straight to the good side, when the hotel staff woman came running over to warn us that it was too spicy. She gently walked us to the gross English food. We confirmed with her, numerous times, that the Indian food was very spicy. We then dug in on the eatible food (the Indian side) and made a friend with the hotel staff lady.
It was somewhat spicy, but amazing.
Some Americans think black pepper is too spicy, some eat ghost peppers as a light snack, I am in between.
zalgotext, It’s almost like, in such a huge country, there exist people with different tastes.
followed up by
The other was some nauseating English breakfast spread, with like baked beans (that’s for summer BBQs not breakfast!).
I really hope that’s irony
scubbo, I, an American
Irony, you say?
zalgotext, eatible
Yeah, they’re not actually American
feedum_sneedson, It won’t be.
adam_y, And then everyone clapped, right?
paddirn, They just wanted control of the spices so they could sell it to everybody else.
Rolive, He who controls the spice controls the universe.
NotSpez, DESERT POWER
lugal, A drug lord doesn’t take their own drugs
Honytawk, Don’t get high on your own supply
ComradePorkRoll, I wish someone would’ve told me this earlier. I got into it just wanting to make a little cash by selling that salt rock. Now look at me; I can’t even enjoy some chicken if doesn’t have at least 9 different herbs and spices.
rbos, (edited ) Theres a lot of great dutch food! I will defend pannenkoek, stampot, oliebollen, Gouda, spekkoek, krokets, poffertjes, stroopwafel… hell, I love pickled herring.
Dutch food is very underrated!
DarthBueller, You forgot the frikandel speciaal.
rbos, I was unaware! I will try it earliest opportunity.
kattenluik, Patatje oorlog, patatje joppie, spekkedikken and frikandelsaus. There’s a lot of things!
AquaTofana, Bruhhhhh whenever I finally start losing this weight I’ve been packing on, I look forward to a stroopwafel warmed over my black coffee every Wednesday morning.
Holy fuck people don’t know what they’re missing.
Zerush, Compared with English food it’s certainly first class. British gourmets only survive, because in GB are a lot of Chinese, Japonese, Greek, etc. Restaurants
gmtom, Also you know the mitchelin star British restaurants.
BigDanishGuy, Pickled herring is Danish, spekoek is Indonesian and Gouda is bland.
Hagelslag though, that is something I definitely miss.
Maybe the herring is Scandinavian, but we’re not going to credit the swedes with this one, they lost that right when they started with the lingonberries.
kattenluik, Gouda is anything but bland
SwingingTheLamp, It’s possible that people think of Gouda as that stuff which comes in the standardized, plastic-sealed block of rubbery cheese that most American grocery stores carry. That is bland. One might mistake it for the Monterey Jack next to it, were the labels switched.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll still happily eat it, but yeah, real Gouda has flavor.
kattenluik, That makes sense! I’m currently in the US and have only seen Gouda once and it tasted nothing like it, in the Netherlands there’s also many varieties of Gouda that all taste very different.
It’s very strange seeing Dutch products on the shelves here.
rbos, Some people confuse mild and delicate flavours with bland, too. Young Gouda isn’t particularly strong but it’s good and still distinct.
The_Walkening, TBF to the Dutch, the regular food they serve you at a restaurant nowadays beats the USA by a mile.
Rolive, That’s a low bar.
reddit_sux, (edited ) They might have had good foods when they looted. Paying for good stuff is not what they do.
sexeducation, They paid you with basic education
reddit_sux, We had better education before they came.
The same education which gave you polynomial equations, the concept of zero. Without which Europe will have been where it should be in the dark ages.
sexeducation, (edited ) Better education? You killed babies for it to rain lol
You still use imperial system, that our fault too
reddit_sux, You are confused between Europe in dark ages and Asia.
These debauchery and barbarism was Europe. Only thing you have ever done is loot, pillage and create divisions and problems across the world.
Genocide and slavery is the only achievement of Europe, rest everything they have pillaged from others.
sexeducation, Tell me you are American without telling me you are American
reddit_sux, Not an American
sexeducation, Even more funny than 😊
feedum_sneedson, cum
vanderbilt, My Jamaican friend once said: “How many times do I have to tell you people flour is not a spice”.
ElBarto, I played too much red dead, I’m like " I don’t remember a character named Brits.
wombat, stroopwafels are good
ElHexo, At least some Dutch food integrated the spices (Speculaas), the Brits have no excuse
HawlSera, They really did did Kill millions of people to get spices and then decide they didn’t like any of them.
junfel, LMAOOOO
Shepstr, This is quite the circlejerk.
Zerush,
jaybone, That’s why they needed spices so badly
Chakravanti, (edited ) I’m jealous of the funnt spices they have now. 4-MMC
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