UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The old “Bing is just like Google” ad copy is getting truer and truer in a bad way.

spudwart,
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

This post but replace google search with the general internet.

Nearly every place that feels like the old internet is not as popular.

I used to think that was a bad thing, I’m starting to think maybe I’ve just been pushing aside the reality that when the internet was good, it wasn’t as popular.

Overzeetop,

Not popular- commercial. The early internet had effectively no profit motive. As it aged there was a modicum of balance between use and profit - a good site drives customers. Now there are a preponderance of sites which exist only to scrape pennies off advertisers and have no useful content except that which is required to garner a click from a search engine in hopes you will accidentally create an advertising impression.

demonsword,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

I’m starting to think maybe I’ve just been pushing aside the reality that when the internet was good, it wasn’t as popular

nah you’re just becoming older

Adalast,

This is such an apt analogy. I only use it because I have a couple hundred tabs open in Chrome and I am too lazy to port them all over to FF. Even then, I usually have to be really manipulative to the search algorithm to get what I want from general searches and heaven forbid I want to find something that is even the least but taboo. I just use DuckDuckGo for those searches, though it struggles sometimes too.

I know I need to swap over to FF entirely, but there is just so much, from shifting my PW bank to the hundreds of tabs and thousands of bookmarks. Does anyone know of any FOSS or FF extensions that can smooth that process?

AngryCommieKender,

Firefox doesn’t need extensions to handle the password and bookmark imports, it can do those automatically. I saw someone suggest you create a folder in your bookmarks that is your open tabs, bookmark each tab as you close them, import passwords and bookmarks, and open that folder for a relatively painless migration.

Railing5132,

Do not rely on the built-in password managers to keep your passwords safe. Use a purpose-built one like Bitwarden to generate unique ones, save and complete them, agnostic to the browser. Virtually every stealer out there can easily grab the built-in password db’s content.

GenePull,

Bit-warden for password manager, FOSS cross platform. FF should import all the bookmarks. I’d save all open tabs to a new bookmark folder before transfer then open that folder after.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

No matter how many times people shit on Google, it’s still the best search engine, as much as I wish it wasn’t so. But it is

Tlaloc_Temporal,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

Not really. Especially after the first couple results, it’s clueless.

Gabu,

What are you on about, Google is complete shit.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Ok. I default to ddg but have to end up using Google half the time. It’s not for lack of trying.

snowe,
@snowe@programming.dev avatar

That’s cuz DDG is terrible. Kagi is amazing in comparison to both.

vardogor,
@vardogor@mander.xyz avatar

kagi gives me much better results. i mean, it better, since it costs money.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I would pay for it, but when I looked at pricing I was pretty disappointed

vardogor,
@vardogor@mander.xyz avatar

they changed the $25 dollar tier to $10 recently. made it a lot more realistic for me, but i still wish it was lower

eclectic_electron,

People aren’t comparing it to alternatives, they’re comparing it to Google 5-10 years ago.

Google used to be astoundingly good at figuring out what it was you wanted, and finding out for you. Now there’s a lot more SEO garbage and meaningless fluff clogging every results page, and if your search could even remotely be related to buying something, it’s only products and ads.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

I would agree it’s a little worse than it used to be, but the post implies it’s useless which is just false

petrol_sniff_king, (edited )

Dude, I switched from Google for the first time in my life a couple months ago because I couldn’t take it anymore.

Ads, ads, ads, ads, ads, ads, ads
Ai articles, Ai articles, Ai articles, Ai articles, Ai articles

The fact that google has a built-in graphing calculator just isn’t worth it.

I won’t forget this, actually: I was looking up what to do next in a game I was playing—very deliberately, I care a lot about spoilers—and the “people also ask” section implied, for no reason, this had nothing to do with what I wanted to know, that a character who died really early on apparently has things to say in chapter 9.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Ok. You can’t really avoid spoilers on the Internet though. That’s kind of common knowledge

petrol_sniff_king,

I do. I’m a professional.

That stupid answers thing only got me once, maybe twice, because I don’t let it anymore.

This kind of thing is a lot easier to control, though, when your results are what you wanted and not what you didn’t.

Saki, (edited )

Tor Browser is planning to remove Google from the search engine options a user can choose: gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/…/41835

There some say brave onion + no JS is good: …brave4u7jddbv7cyviptqjc7jusxh72uik7zt6adtckl5f4n…

Mullvad team seems to be considering 4 possible options:


PS: Not disgussing ddg / ddg onion too much, basically because ddg is the long-time default search engine of TB. Most TB users assume ddg is a decent, standard, generic option, esp. its non-JS version.

Got_Bent,

I’m in a worse situation. I still go to Yahoo every day out of habit going back to the nineties. I instantly regret it every time I do it.

RememberTheApollo_,

You know what? I tried it, and even though it’s dated, it gave me better results that google.

Hard to believe it’s still around. But then so is AOL.com.

hehe, just for fun I tried prodigy.com (wasn’t there) but holy shit compuserve.com was!

aulin,

I’ve used Startpage for a year or more on my main computer and it works okay.

But if anyone has any tips for a search engine that actually supports queries with boolean logic and such, I’d be all for it. Lately they all seem to just not do that anymore.

I vastly prefer a search engine in the EU, that respects the privacy laws here.

Imgonnatrythis,

Any discussion on search on Lemmy will bring up Kagi as it has been here already. I will just mention that. A. You can cheat and just keep using a bunch of email accounts to get free trials from them B. If you do that long enough you’ll realize their 300 search plan is pretty fair and having saved preferences is worth a membership and they have an option where you can use crypto to pay your fees and remain anonymous (this is very important to me as the only thing more evil than Google would be to have all your search data, your full name and your credit card info - I strongly recommend the crypto pay option and create a dedicated email address. For Kagi membership).

Gabu,

This reads like a sponsored ad.

Imgonnatrythis,

Yeah they have a program - for every redditor I get to join I get 100 free searches. For every Lemmite that joins I get 20.

Chestnut,

How good is it? I’ve heard good things but would love a second or third opinion

Imgonnatrythis,

Why? The trial literally just needs a BS working email address.

snowe,
@snowe@programming.dev avatar

Fantastic. I left some other comments on here but I switched within days of doing the trial and I haven’t gone back at all. I think the total number of times I’ve used Google search since then is 3. Yes 3 total searches on Google in the past six months. None of those searches gave me what I wanted, but those were the times i couldn’t find what I needed with kagi. So 3 kagi failures in 6 months and Google wasn’t helpful either.

telllos,

I use Google search when I want to buy something, for some reason, it gets good résultats when I want to buy from my country. but if you want reliable results for a product review, you have to look elsewhere.

Railing5132,

Makes sense. It’s an advertisement platform.

balderdash9,

Lemmy really likes Tweets lol

FreshLight,

This is so true.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I have no idea why the best search engine is not mentioned in any of these comments. Maybe it is the same reason why I am not going to mention it either, to stop normies from ruining it.

maris,

I’m curious now…

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

A hint: they are the only major search engine to not give a flying fuck about DMCA and USA laws. This is also the reason why it is the undisputed king.

Kase,

What’s a better alternative that you guys use (if there is one)?

Just asking because I’ve gotten a lot of great tech recommendations here on Lemmy :)

Spaceballstheusername,

I use duck duck go but also tik Tok depending on the type of thing I’m looking for.

pettend, (edited )
@pettend@lemmy.world avatar

I use Ecosia, even though it has ads, but it uses 80% of its profits to support tree-planting projects.

snowe,
@snowe@programming.dev avatar

Kagi. I thought it was a ripoff to pay for search but I tried the trial and started paying before the trial was even up, that’s how much better it is.

Chestnut,

For the moment the best search engine I know of is googling something and appending ‘site:reddit.com’

It’s less useful than it used to be but still leagues ahead of Reddit

If you’re willing to pay for it I’ve also heard good things about kagi.com

MrGG,

I’ve been using Kagi for a few months and it has been exponentially better than Google. I wouldn’t have known about it if it weren’t for people talking about it on Lemmy, actually.

coaxil,

Duck duck go, is my current primary search. Work a look IMHO

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

🦆🦆👉

pelespirit,
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

What’s the consensus on Mojeek? www.mojeek.com

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

Mojeek has pretty bad results. I’d only use it to avoid censorship of results

Mojeek,
@Mojeek@lemmy.ml avatar

if you’re willing to help at all we’re always looking for feedback on specific results, and also have this page for testing staging algorithms, there’s a big change on there currently. No bother if not.

nameisnotimportant,
@nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml avatar

Never heard of it before, I’ll test it out! Thanks for the tip

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