doctorcrimson,

As bad as any profit first corporation is, or even agenda first profit second corporations, there will never be anything more cringe than helping a hostile foreign dictatorship for vines with music.

Thief_of_Crows,

China isn’t hostile, afaik only the US has been hostile. And claiming that tiktok did that is equivalent to saying random American company is responsible for bombing Iraq

doctorcrimson,

China makes a statement that celebrates whenever something bad happens in the USA. The CCP are very much opposed to the USA. They’re also in constant territory disputes with neighboring nations and have recently consumed neighboring nations. TikTok is not a private or public company. It is a military Operation. It is run by military personnel on a military site.

Thief_of_Crows,

Right, that would make a lot of sense to do about the country that’s openly hostile to you. Oh, China has territory disputes with neighbors? The US will literally fucking bomb you to nothing for your oil, and/or stage a false flag coup to overthrow your government if they won’t sell them oil. We have also used corporate espionage to rewrite the laws of several South American countries into ineffectiveness, for the benefit of a fruit company. The two are not remotely comparable on foreign policy.

doctorcrimson,

Everything wrong with the USA is worse with China, because China is a literal Militaristic Dictatorship. Kill you for Oil? Check. Genocide? Check. Disappeared by the Intelligence Agency? Check. Internment camps? Sweatshops? Stealing people’s land? Taking away their rights and means of defense both physical and legal? China is worse in every imaginable category.

And that makes sense. When society fails to govern itself, then the government treats society like worms. China is an end all threat to all of humanity, itself included.

Thief_of_Crows,

Literally none of that is true. If it is, provide a source. Who has China gone to full scale war with for their oil? Genocide was made up by a far right grifter named Adrian zenz. You’ve fallen hardcore American propaganda bro.

doctorcrimson,

China is actively supplying Middle Eastern Nations the same as the USA, and they also claim complete control over Taiwan. They’re also funding the Russia-Ukraine war by stockpiling massive amounts of oil from Russia. I think that more than qualifies the “kill you for oil” statement.

Thief_of_Crows,

No, it doesn’t. Taiwan seceded from them, they aren’t trying to colonize it. America bombing Iraq and destabilizing SA governments is killing for oil. Buying oil from Russia is not that.

doctorcrimson,

So if they pay somebody else to murder people then it’s okay, in your words?

Thief_of_Crows,

How is buying oil from Russia remotely similar to that? America actually does do that, btw, by supplying the Saudis with the weapons they need to genocide Yemen.

doctorcrimson,

Cope

Thief_of_Crows,

Knowing facts is cope?

doctorcrimson,

Trying to justify murder of thousands with some hard cut cope-amine.

American_Communist22,
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Why is tiktok so high up, It feels like regular shitty social media, not nearly as bad or boring as instagram, facebook, and metaverse.

wait yeah why is tiktok above metaverse lol

doctorcrimson,

It’s a Dictatorship’s Military Operation. The app’s software is more data theft than it is actually used to run the app. They take everything stored on your device, from photos to text history. All of it. If I were to rate all apps on the basis of harm, Tiktok is miles above anything else.

American_Communist22,
@American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml avatar

ever heard of the patriot act, sis?

doctorcrimson,

Replaced in 2015, sis? Turns out Democracy is only way better 90% of the time, but at least it’s capable of self-correction.

American_Communist22,
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you’re a fool to believe they just gave up the power to control the country. I bet you think the USA is a democra- oh shit yeah you do think that too. Its a plutocracy babe. You dont live in democracy.

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/5370dc37-4594-4437-b8ff-3161a5571dfa.jpeg

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/0d708fe2-3656-4d92-96ad-6a86790a74d0.webp

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/e221a502-94d9-48cf-b55a-53748ee84c7f.webp

Also are you insinuating China doesn’t have a democracy, not is capable of self correction? You think westerners have some godgiven ability to be the bestest peoples in da world?

doctorcrimson,

LMAO Bro the CCP is literally a one party system with a “president for life.”

Heres a fun thought, you acknowledge that the App does have that data collection software as it has been proven by many independent software reviews, so is it worth it for a person, no matter what other country they come from, to betray their own nation’s people and create security risks in order to view and post vines with music?

American_Communist22,
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How does having one party rob the country of having a democracy. Democracies dont have to be your shitty splintered capitalist infighting mess you call governments. Not president for life, he can still be democratically removed from office, he just has no term limits. I think no term limits is more democratic anyway.

Heres a fun thought, you acknowledge that the App does have that data collection software as it has been proven by many independent software reviews, so is it worth it for a person, no matter what other country they come from, to betray their own nation’s people and create security risks in order to view and post vines with music?

So what, anything that would damage the US is good, I don’t care lol. Also the software may be in part owned by china, but the heads of the western tiktok division are made up of US national security “retirees” lol.

doctorcrimson,

Having an actual dictator who can only be removed by his close peers makes China a lot more of an Oligopoly than a Communism, my dude. I think by strict definitions the USA is probably more socialist than the CCP.

American_Communist22,
@American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml avatar

why do you think the US is more socialist than the People’s Republic of China?

doctorcrimson,

Lmao bro can’t remember a conversation we’ve been having for a week straight.

American_Communist22,
@American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Sis, actually. and no, list your reasons, clearly. I want to see how deranged and stupid you can get.

KingThrillgore,
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aaaaaaadjsf,
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Didn’t they also use child labour in the US?

MeefusMcBeefus,

I think you might be confusing them with the other major Korean car maker Hyundai but it could have been both!

cRazi_man,

Does this reflect how the platform is actually doing or do we just like the circlejerk of wishing they would fail? Because everything I’ve seen says Reddit has been completely unaffected by the changes made and they’re still getting more user signups, engagements and interaction/posts than ever.

Tik Tok also seems to be growing strong.

Twitter is a genuine laughing stalk and is pulling major shit…but everyone still seems to be using it regularly.

Gamey,

Reddit is driven by search traffic and the results got a lot worse since a lot of good posters quit. They lost the content but not the users yet, I think it’s just going to take a long time before they truly see the damage in their traffic statistics!

BolexForSoup,
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The google-Reddit search got really screwed up when the private subs numbered 7-8000. I’m curious if there have been any lingering effects.

Blackmist,

If popularity was all that mattered, McDonalds would have Michelin stars.

UlyssesT,

There’s metagame factors to this.

Reddit users often hate Reddit but feel stuck in it without alternatives that they can accept.

Twitter (it’s not X, fuck that silly aging “peaked in the XTREME 90s” divorce dad nonsense, I hope he cries more about it billionaire-tears ) has lost a lot of users and the ones that are left are devoted cultists that pay money for relevance symbols on their accounts. blue-check farquaad-point

TikTok has people that are hooked on the algorithm to the point that they may not bother even participating in any such survey because it isn’t on TikTok.

chrizbie,
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Elons shenanigans has to be worse than spez surely

Sibbo,

I’d exchange Reddit and X. The rate at which X is going downhill right now just cannot be beaten by anything.

orphiebaby,

Came here to say this. X is doing worse than Reddit.

Holzkohlen,

Agreed. I mean I never expected Elon to be smart but good god is that dude an idiot. Everyone reading this could 100% do a better job in his shoes.

JusticeForPorygon,
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Crazy how TikTok don’t even seem so bad anymore thanks to the other two completely fucking imploding.

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