That one is fun because you concede most of it but then win an argument that fahrenheit is better (Celsius and fahrenheit are both arbitrary but at least fahrenheit scales itself so the range most people use daily, weather, is 0-100)
I think he’s missing the important part of that 0-100 scale… It marks fairly decently what isn’t safe for people without proper precautions. I’ve gone out below freezing and while it isn’t pleasant by any mean, you aren’t super fucked until you get super low. Likewise, get above 100 and it quickly stops becoming safe for humans without frequent breaks and such
Wrong.
A middle eastern dude would tell you a 100 is fine and a northern canadian will probably tell you to stop bothering them because they are turning into a puddle.
0 is very cold, 100 is very hot. So 50 is perfect room temperature, right?
Nope, you still have to adjust to an arbitary selection of numbers within that range, so it’s not really any more helpful than celcius if you don’t have experience with the scale.
while you’re correct they’re both arbitrary scales and I’ve heard this argument before but still think it’s a dumb argument.
Water freezes 0 water boils 100, i guess it fits the base 10 thing.
I think you feel the human 0 to 100 idea works because it’s what you’re used to. 0 to 40 works fine for me to intuitively know how hot or cold it is becuase it’s what i grew up with too. Neither can be argued that one is more right.
although it really makes sense for the USA to just finally switch because it’s long been decided by the rest of the planet this is the better way to measure things. media.tenor.com/…/simpsons-homer.gif
Yes I know that water does certain things at the “nice” numbers in Celsius. Who cares though? What’s so special about water? I’m not boiling water that often, and in my life I’ve never checked the temperature of water when doing so or have had to care about specific numbers then. Of all substances why does water get to be the one we base everything around?
i guess it’s just one of those cool science observations water freezes (and technically melts) at 0 and boils at 100 (at sea level). it fits the base 10 and we just think it’s neat.
i mean probs we should be using degrees Kelvin if we want to be less arbitrary. I’m down for the switch.
Which ruined looking for recipes online and using Google search operators to filter put american recipes is irritating because you have to fine tune and repeat based on the google results until all american recipes are filtered out
I only know English and am currently learning japanese but I can only form & read simple scentences in japanese and haven’t learned how to do complex ones yet
Imagine justifiably criticising a bad trait that someone has in the hopes of having them improve
Most people are going to take that as a threat because they hold that trait deer to them and / or view it as a part of a themselves
americans are likely viewing the criticism as a threat to themselves and their country and are responding with emotionally fueled responses instead of logic based responses
americans should learn to meditate because it can help with the issue of wanting to respond to percived threats emotionally
You’re speaking pretty large for an American for not being a school shooter yourself
But as an American who meditates, that is not the answer lol.
We have a bigger issue with the media trying to make us feel like everything outside is scary first. A lot of fear mongering to keep the scared gun owners to buy and advocate for more until a mentally deranged one goes too far and ruins it for everyone else. The media can now sensationalize that shooting and you get either people buying more guns or people advocating for no guns and neither side wants to hear each other anymore. It’s one big crazy chain reaction loop we’re stuck in and the politicians got the crazies advocating for things that would just make the politicians more money. Sigh.
Yes saying we can do something about it and do better is stupid. Same here in Europe btw, no one has the power to do anything about media and capitalism fucking us over.
However i still think we can joke about it as a way to communicate our problems and relieve ourselves from the tragic.
(Of course that requires some empathy and a shared humour to overcome our cultural differences.)
Accepting it is a low hanging fruit is the saddest thing I’ve read today. It’s so obvious our society is fucked! Don’t you have something more creative to say, dumbass?
Because – and this might be a hot take – I don’t think it should be socially acceptable to bring up a recent national tragedy as a fucking punchline
We’ve been voting. We’re trying to get the rules changed and we’re getting stonewalled by people who only listen to media that makes up reasons for them to hate things that would be good for the masses because it would be bad for a few people at the top and I’m sick to fucking death of people making fun of us for it and treating actual dying children as some sort of own. For Christ’s sake, have some fucking empathy. None of us, not even the furthest-right conservatives, think this is okay, and we’re trying to do something about it, and it doesn’t help when you’re like “haha look at all the dead children, isn’t it funny how stupid Americans are”
I wish I could say people were trying to stop school shootings in my area. I live in PERRY FUCKING IOWA, about a mile from the very school that was shot up, and all I fucking see from anyone around here is thoughts and prayers, wear a blue shirt, Perry Strong!!
None of us, not even the furthest-right conservatives, think this is okay
Aguably, conservatives may not think it’s ok but they’re so scared of losing their guns (because their politicians say dems will take them so they can get elected) that conservatives consider dead kids an acceptable loss. If they didn’t, more of them would vote for the party that wants to control who can obtain them.
Or, arguably even more importantly, conservatives argue that this is actually about ‘mental health issues’ but then subsequently refuse to do anything to improve mental health. So they don’t even bother trying their own proposed solution.
You would think at this point that the US would have the most robust mental-healthcare system on the planet!
Americans: USA is the greatest country in the world. Behold our God given rights and freedoms! We’re number 1! We’re exceptional! U! S! A! U! S! A!
Europeans: Actually it’s pretty arrogant to think your country is so much better than all the other. All countries have flaws and strengths. For example USA have problems with gun violence and healthcare.
Americans: How dare you make fun of our national tragedies! Can’t you see we’re suffering here? You’re making fun of dead children! You MONSTERS!!
Oh, I see where you got confused. When people say ‘Americans do something’ they mean ‘most Americans do it’ or ‘significant portion of American population do it’, not ‘all Americans do it’. You see, countries are big and there are a lot of people in them and it very rare for everyone in a country to think exactly the same. That’s why we usually focus on the prevailing attitudes that shape the country over the years instead of looking for believes shared by ALL citizens (because they don’t exists). Currently over 40% of Americans believe that “God has granted America a special role in human history” and it was way higher in the not so distant past, that’s why someone could say that “Americans believe it”. Hope this helps.
“Some Americans believe this, therefore the Americans who don’t and are actually trying to fix this Godforsaken country, and get upset when people accuse them of believing it, are hypocrites and crybabies who can’t take criticism.”
I know how you feel but you have to understand that the memes are not about you personally. We know that most Americans on lemmy are the cool ones. The ones that don’t have guns and are not afraid of socialism. The memes are about the other Americans and, you know, we’re just joshing. I though that’s obvious, that’s why I asked why everyone is suddenly so touchy about it. Usually the cool Americans are in on the joke. Now they are all sensitive about it. It’s just weird.
I do agree that we need more empathy. But that empathy can and should be used to have a better humour.
Because i can’t stress enough how humour is important in dealing with tragedy. It’s one of the greatest tool to overcome it.
That’s why you also see American joking about it. Only their jokes might be funnier than European’s because they know and emphasize better with the tragedy.
On the other hand, one thing we do share is trying to change without any or not enough results. That’s something most countries know about in this day and age. Media and corrupt system is something European’s deals with too.
So i get your anger, it’s also good, it’s a driving force for us to continue trying to change, however helpless we feel.
Idk wtf is wrong with all of my countrymen, those are three things we NEED to change.
It’s so fucking funny to me because they’re probably the same type of Americans that are like “oH aMeRiCa iS sO tOuGh nOt lIkE tHoSe SiSsY cOuNtRiEs iN tHe EU” but here they are all butt hurt when other countries make VERY VALID CRITICISMS about us
The Civil Rights era is so entrenched in American History, I can’t imagine a Black person being forced (by society) to wear one. And yet that’s the header image from this article.
And at the same time, we europeans who have been in the USA (so we just don’t follow what media wants us to think) love so many things in the USA. Are the States flawed? Yes. Are Europeans country flawed too? Absolutely. I don’t like the bullying the world thing, but I’m happy I’m on ‘tesm bullying’ and not ‘team Russia’ or middle east.
Many things. Great things like general kindness of the people, the way the States handle national parks, the mentality of taking responsibility about your own live. And just mundane things like those awesome bbqs!
Well ya, it’s absolutely pathetic for Americans to strut around acting like they’re an authority on how society should operate when theirs is an absolute dumpster fire unless you’re making 500k/yr+.
Does it hurt when this is pointed out or something? If you’re tired of it, maybe stop trying to swing your tiny little dick around and people won’t have to constantly tell you to put it back in your pants.
You mean like the US installed puppet regimes all over the world 24/7 since ww2? Or the constant wars you are involved in? Or do you just mean the civil war n? Or perhaps it’s easier to controll the land after the genocide perhaps? Really? USAian talking about authoritan States and widespread war… Not like Europe got a good track record but it’s kind of lacking on the imperialism front compared.
The degradation of American freedoms and the abuse of our election system is definitely a both sides, where many things aren’t. Neither party wants to lose power by opening up ranked choice or modern election systems and both parties prefer the power of the state over the power of the people.
The US hasn’t had a domestic war since the civil war. How many wars has Europe had domestically since then? Hmmm.
US citizens are powerless to the machine that was built generations ago. We vote between corporate funded warhawks or more liberal corporate funded warhawks. Personally I like the idea of not helping Europe much in future wars, we have more than enough problems of our own. But as much as Europeans hate America for their military prowess, I hate us for it too because we’re all paying for it in human suffering.
We’re policing the world and neglecting our people and it isn’t sustainable. If you need to fight for freedom, start your own military dominance. But fuck war. Americans mostly just want to live peaceful lives but bring a land war here and it’ll get lit.
The US hasn’t had a domestic war since the civil war. How many wars has Europe had domestically since then? Hmmm.
The US is a country, Europe is not, so “domestic” is a misnomer and the comparison doesn’t hold up. The issues Europe had with wars are a result of complex regional and historical issues, those things don’t really exist in the US because it is too homogenous on one side and too much of a military might to challenge on the other, not to mention geographically isolated.
You really need to reach to make Europe look like the bad guy when it comes to wars, not in the least because the US takes other countries to war all the time to throw it’s weight around and establish dominance.
I have a solution for the gun violence problem in schools. Print simple steps on common causes and solutions to the underlying social and mental contributors. Put these up in every door, hallway and classroom in every schools. Then these poor misguided kids would have troubleshooting.
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