Dirk,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

No person should be allowed to own more residential property than they’re realistically need for living.

blanketswithsmallpox,

Do you allow couples to own two houses then? How do you prevent two people living together from not owning a second house to rent?

Also, you’d be surprised just how little a person needs to live in lol.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I don’t think we need to make this literally true - we can put in a lot of wiggle room, because we just need to restrict doing this at scale

Say, no more than 2 homes per household, 1 extra for each additional adult. You want a vacation house, or a place near work? Fine. You want to buy another house and take your time moving? Fine. You want both? Make some compromises.

Or we could make the limit 5 per household - that would be excessive, but if they couldn’t rent them out it would still decomodify housing, because it’s people buying homes at scale that really is killing us

From there, you’d crack down locally - if you want to live in the boonies, I don’t care if you have 5 acres. If you live in a city with a housing shortage, maybe you only get a certain square footage per person, maybe certain areas are primary residence only, or however you want to slice it

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

We have one area of actual steady investment in our lives - our homes. And they can’t handle us making a tiny bit of money

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I need an ironic WWII style scaremongering propaganda poster about class war. The 1% have class awareness. Do you?

Scrath,

That sounds like something one of those image AI’s might be able to make for you.

kamenlady, (edited )
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Scrath’s comment made me check with Bing - i put your comment as the prompt, word by word:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fc69c2cf-2d09-4955-ad05-69769b4722f7.jpeg

Edit: a week later i was wondering how far image generators get political context right. So i tried the same prompt on civitai ( without any additional resources ). Bing did a better job with the context, at least it repeated some of the input.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b9658699-21c3-492d-a835-ba282b4e5dc5.jpeg

AFC1886VCC,

Angry zombie British soldier wants you to engage in class awar because the 1% have awawrrnesss, nice

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I like the otter bat dudes. 😁

jballs,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Jesus Christ why doesn’t he have skin? Also, at least the hand is right!

hungryphrog,

Yes, I have class awaw/rrnesss.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

This is one of the most destructive things we’ve done as a society: making our homes into investment vehicles. It is the root cause of people no longer being able to afford housing.

Taldan, (edited )

Homes don’t generate value though. Nothing more is being created by them existing. How can it possibly be an investment generating more wealth when the underlying asset remains unchanged?

It’s just a pyramid scheme to expect the same exact home to continue going up in value as an investment. The only possible result is a shortage of housing with unreasonably high prices

Tenthrow, (edited )
@Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

While I agree, if that were a law, they would just get all residential property (except for their neighborhood) rezoned.

Edit: Man, you guys really missunderstood my comment. I wasn’t saying we should roll over and die, I was just saying that wealthy shitheads cheat and steal.

lolcatnip,

I guess corporations are just our rulers and and we shouldn’t even try to restrict them because it might make them mad at us.

ricecake,

Did you know that unlike a corporation, you actually have a say in what your government does?

If they try to get an area rezoned, people can actually just say “no”.

This isn’t some weird fantasy either, it actually happens all the time if you pay attention to your local government activity.

HikingVet,

Rezoned to what and how?

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

As someone who lives in a corporate owned building which is an unmitigated disaster, I agree.

Bocky,

If you don’t like it why don’t you move to a better building with better management?

Ensign_Crab,

Leases have terms. Don’t victim blame.

Bocky,

Yes, and mortgages have obligations too, and they are generally much longer and more difficult to move away from too.

With a lease your financial obligation over the course of the contract is much lower than a mortgage.

Ensign_Crab,

A problem caused by a shitty landlord is not the fault of the tenant. Don’t victim blame.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

You realize moving is a big deal, right? I could talk for 20 minutes about the challenges but the biggest one currently is that I’m extremely far from my lease’s end date.

Trudge,
@Trudge@lemmygrad.ml avatar

No more landlords? That sounds like communism.

Easyreever,

Or contribute to political campaigns….or a thousand other things they abuse.

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

B-but CoRpOrAtIoNs Is PeOpLe

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

I’ll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

Weirdly enough new York is on track to do that with Trump’s company.

bappity,
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

I wish every corporation buying residential properties a very haven hills alabama

Gregorech,

My friend owns three houses, the one he lives in and two he rents. He incorporated for tax purposes. Your saying he can’t own the rental property because he’s now taking advantage of the tax laws?

Bocky,

That’s one persons opinion, but yes that’s what they are saying

CosmicSploogeDrizzle,
@CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world avatar

Limit it to corporations of a certain size then. It’s not people like your friend that are doing the bulk of the damage. It’s large corporations buying up entire neighborhoods to rent them forever.

ZombiFrancis,

You mean to say your friend incorporated for tax purposes because owning three houses would’ve been resulted in being taxed at a higher rate? That should be evidence enough.

Unrelated but related: shell companies for the purposes of evading taxes should also not be an acceptable practice.

Gregorech,

That and as a real estate agent in Southern California it helps with his tax burden when selling houses near 1M. If the commission goes to his corporate account pays himself a taxed salary it’s less than the taxes for the full amount. The rental is more of a long term investment than a profit from rent.

Telodzrum,

This just results in larger complexes being owned exclusively by the ultra rich. This idea outlaws the very concept of a co-op.

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

no brainer

Glide,

You could have just stopped at “allowed.”

Kecessa, (edited )

One to four units should only be owned by people and the owner should have the obligation to live in it or there should be a radius around their property in which they can’t own a second one.

Five to eight units should only be owned by well regulated corporations with the fiscal responsibilities this implies. The alternative would be co-ops.

Nine and more should be under a non profit state corporation that charges rent based on trying to break even only (that’s how road insurance for people works around here, price is adjusted based on the previous year’s cost to the corporation, it’s way cheaper than private equivalents elsewhere in the country).

Zoboomafoo,

Your plan cuts out normal people from the most likely reason they would own two homes, a place to live and a vacation property.

I think the simpler and easier solution would be to increase property tax rate per property owned

Kecessa,

How? Do you own your vacation property in the same city you have your house?

Even if it was just a 30 miles radius, it would be enough to dissuade most people who own two properties in order to profit from it.

Zoboomafoo,

I misread your comment and had it backwards, sorry

thesporkeffect,

Hotels used to be where you lived if you were young and semi-transient. This worked because AirBNB had not yet been invented.

Kase,

Can I just say, this is a wonderful template. 🐕

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