The ending of GoT will never stop being a sore spot for me. Some of the worst writing and abandonment (sabotage?) of character development I’ve ever witnessed.
The thing that still blows my mind is that they evidently could not comprehend that pulling this sort of bullshit would have sharply negative effects on their future in all of showbusiness. Like, they had a Star Wars movie signed. That’s still a bit of a thing nowadays, and when they got it, it was an even bigger deal. And they spiked it because they couldn’t be fucked to put in the effort to give one of the most popular TV series EVER a reasonably meaningful, satisfying, and well-written conclusion.
Even if we get nothing else from those last seasons, at the very least it’ll serve as a warning to show runners in future. You can be responsible for one of the biggest and best shows ever but if you don’t stick the landing people will never forgive you.
I wonder how they feel about it now, what a waste of an opportunity.
The worst part is all the investment I had into it. Not just emotional investment but also time spend getting to know the lore and coming up with theories
I feel so sorry for the actors and other people who worked on the show, besides D and D of course. Imagine being part of the biggest TV thing ever and having incredible success, only for it all to fall apart towards the end, completely removing the thing from public consciousness.
Man, remember when they had the cast do that media blitz for the final season, and Peter Dinklage was just giving off Hide The Pain Harold vibes for the whole interview? That must have been rough :(
Yeah, that must have been brutal. Some of the actors let a couple of negative sentences slip during those interviews, but I’m sure they weren’t allowed to.
I don’t know if a single clip shows this better than the reaction of Varys’ actor to his characters death. Just imagine having to sit at a table WITH THE SHITHEADS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE for butchering an amazing character you should be remembered for, and not being able to say anything. Fuck.
You’ve got it all wrong! It was actually an incredibly genius move, as the writers knew that after 7 seasons of twists, turns and surprises, the audience wouldn’t really be phased by any characters death anymore. We’d become so accustomed to sudden character deaths that watching GoT became the literal incarnation of “expect the unexpected” and you can’t shock people who are just waiting for it to happen. So what did the showrunners do? They did the only thing nobody expected, assassinated the only target they knew would still get a reaction out of people after all this time - they killed off the show itself.
I think a lot of people got a bad taste in their mouth with episode 1 and they couldn’t look past it. I saw all three in the theater and I enjoyed them all, but the whole Gungan / Jar Jar thing makes episode 1 the weakest for me by far. The whole tone of the movie feels like it was aimed at a much younger audience, even compared to episodes 2 and 3.
Which is bizarre to me, since you have to imagine the core audience for those movies were middle aged people who saw the originals as kids.
Still, nothing is worse to me than episode IX. I’d watch a Jar Jar spinoff before I’d watch that again.
Obi Wan was the main character of the prequels but they kept thinking it was Anakin. Messes up the framing of a lot of events particularly in the first movie. By the third one I think they figured that out, but it has plenty of other problems even though the narrative focus was better.
Ironically, as an OG fan who really disliked the prequels (you can find my lengthy screed elsewhere in this thread) I thought III was easily the best of those three.
Yeah, everyone tells me that, but I just can’t bring myself to care. Then again I watch maybe one movie a year, so I’m sure part of my disinterest in Episode 3 is my general disinterest in movies.
Fair. You aren't missing the pinnacle of cinema either. If you're going to watch one new (to you) Star Wars movie this year - make it Rogue One if you haven't seen it. It's the best Star Wars movie this century IMO. (By a lot.)
Which is bizarre to me, since you have to imagine the core audience for those movies were middle aged people who saw the originals as kids.
These are the people they needed to draw in, but the real audience was their kids. They wanted to create a new generation of Star Wars fans, and they knocked it out of the park.
I was 12 when Revenge of the Sith came out and back then I would have agreed that Episode 3 was the best of them.
However, as I grew older it changed and nowadays I think Episode 1 is the best written of the prequels and the dialogue is much more cringe in Episodes 2 and 3.
plucked from poverty and slavery, despite his mother remaining helpless, by a Jedi that was a part of an order that ultimately saw him as an unscrupulous means to an end of maintaining their power
he felt as though he could make a bigger difference than he was allowed if stated order relinquished their attempt at controlling him
this feeling was vindicated by his mother’s torture and subsequent death
had his previously instilled beliefs challenged by two men he respected
incredibly strong motivation to go against the Jedi’s wishes to save the one person he valued more than life itself
they think shocking effect just for the sake of shocking is great, and always works for GoT.
NOPE.
Dany the compassionate and kind, snapped just in 1 episode to become his father, burrrn them all.
Jaime whole character arc become waste that he came back to Cersei after post nut clarity with Briene.
Jon Snow, the Ice and Fire, the prince who was promised, Azor Ahai, simping for muhh qweeen, yells at zombie dragon, while Arya stab the big bad Night King like it was just random villain.
Varys, Littlefinger, and Tyrion, those who always playing 4D chess, become so dumb that it hard to watch.
and the most shocking of all: “and who has a better story than Bran the Broken?” like what the fuck man, I thought Bran story become much sinister and dark that he is the Bran of All Time (Bran the Builder, Bran that become Night King, and other Bran, etc). Like, also why bother create a story about the connection between him (as three eyed raven) and the Night King, psychic bond between them when he wargs, etc. and no, it’s just “Westeros now are adopting Democracy, and Bran is the leader choosen by the council” thing.
Star Wars is a simplistic naive story where every single character is either good or evil. There’s no character complexity whatsoever. The main reason the original trilogy was so successful is because they were very well made movies made in a time when well made movies hadn’t even been done yet. Star Wars raised the bar of how good a movie should look and feel. But the story is trash.
The main reason the original trilogy was so successful is because they were very well made movies made in a time when well made movies hadn’t even been done yet.
David Benioff and DB Weiss are the two dumbos that ruined game of thrones. I don’t like that they’re abbreviated to be confused with the ttrpg Dungeons and Dragons, but it’s what the internet decided.
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