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mhz, in "Progress"

Damn, I jealous. I hope my country start investing in non-xar centric progress soon.

IzzyJ,
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For real. This gives me hope for American cities

jungekatz,

Most americans are of the mindset that cars make us free and anything public transport bad ! I doubt if that will improve anytime soon !

Resonosity, in "Progress"

Hope Alexandria in Egypt can come to this realization some day

Nacktmull,

That might take some time, sorry!

nomadjoanne, in "Progress"

Why the quotes? It looks much better.

SmoothSurfer,

I highly doubt OP knows what quotes mean here

propaganja,

“Sarcasm”

Discoslugs,
@Discoslugs@lemmy.world avatar

Bro where did u get that username

propaganja,

I uh… typed it in and it was available?

Saneless,

“your opinion”

TrickDacy,
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“is shit”

Hangglide, in "Progress"

Lima absolutely needs to do this.

Nacktmull, in "Progress"

Why the “”? Getting cars out of cities to improve quality of life is a major progress.

Schmuppes, (edited )

The cars are still there, in massive numbers. You just can’t see the tunnel they built between those two pictures. It’s right beneath the feet of the pedestrians.

marmo7ade,

But we can pretend! And that’s what’s important!!!

AlecSadler,

If you’re there, can you hear them if you put your ear to the ground?

Schmuppes,

I’ll check for you next time I pass through there on my bicycle.

shotgunpulse,

Lol does it matter or are you just curious?

AlecSadler,

Just curious, haha.

JenIsBringingTheDrugs,

That still seems better though. Less noise, safer and more usable space.

Nacktmull, (edited )

At least they can´t kill cyclists and pedestrians this way and the emissions get somewhat contained. Of course this is only a compromise but on the way to car free cities it might be a useful intermediate step before we can actually get rid of carbrainitis.

!fuckcars

jarfil,

!fuckcars

Sounds NSFW…

SkaveRat,

do we have /c/dragonsfuckingcars and /c/carsfuckingdragons yet?

Nacktmull,

c/beatmetoit

over_clox,

‘emissions somewhat contained’…?

Sure that ain’t ‘carbon monoxide tunnel?’

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe it has chimneys like the London underground used to when it was steam powered

marmo7ade,

I buy extra cars for fun.

Nacktmull,

I’m sorry for you - you obviously have no clue what real fun is.

mrhenry77, in "Progress"

Düsseldorf is beautiful to visit for a weekend (now).

eochaid, in "Progress"
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Wow that’s amazing. Green spaces are so important to our mental health and happiness. Really great to see this.

athlon, in "Progress"

I like 2019 more.

evatronic, in "Progress"

Portland, Oregon did it first. And they just got rid of the freeway instead of burying it.

Blastasaurus, in "Progress"

The Gardiner in Toronto desperately needs to be pulled down (before people die) and replaced with tunnels.

The viaduct in Vancouver is being torn down but I don’t think they plan to build a tunnel. It’s the fastest way into downtown from East Van.

The difference between these inevitable projects and Dusseldorf is that property value in Canadian cities is so insane that developers will likely push for the construction of biggest types yet in these cities.

makingStuffForFun,
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I’d say riverfront land in Düsseldorf has developers drooling also. It all comes down to will, and / or corruption

buzz, in "Progress"
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I like the 1990 picture more, has some industrial charm to it.

DrinkBoba, in "Progress"

Amazing place! I’m from there. The Rhein is amazing and it’s a great park right next to the old district.

MaxVoltage,
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are yall ever warry of france?

DrinkBoba,

I love France they’re our EU brothers and sisters. Strong together.

Diprount_Tomato,
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Bro how can you be so cucked? I’m also from an EU country but I refuse to suck France’s cock

GentooPhysicist,

Are you French perchance? Because complaining about the French is just about the most French thing I can imagine.

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Better dead than Fr*nch

Imgonnatrythis, in This banana was perfectly straight!

Really kinda hoped all the banana stuff would have just stayed with reddit.

FizzlePopBerryTwist,

It sounds like you may be low on potassium.

Silviecat44, in "Progress"

Why did you put the title in quotes

Caminsky,

c/unnecessaryquotes

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

because the cars are still there just OutofSight

InternetTubes,

Titles are OP not realizing that the roads have been moved underground and are still there even though the picture doesn’t suit his metropolitan dystopia thematic preferences. Or at least that’s the only way they make sense.

kroy,

who hurt you?

marmo7ade,

Correct. The far left is as vain as the far right.

InternetTubes, (edited )

As opposed to trying to frame everything into the left-right pantheon? Did treating this as a completely separate environmental / city planning concern hurt people’s brain?

Tomad,

you think it’s vain to want visible nature?

TheGreatHerald,

It’s a bit vain to want it at the expense of logical city planning. If the destruction of that road caused major traffic issues or inhibited road access to areas, that would explain why OP added quotes.

kroy,

lol… jesus.

Ryumast3r,

Define logical city planning? Is a walkable, green area more desirable than an overgrown road or not?

Is traffic the end-all-be-all to city planning?

TheGreatHerald,

Logical city planning is planning a city in such a way that provides the greatest overall loving experience to it’s inhabitants and passers-through.

This depends on the location of the city. Traffic prevention and green spaces are 2 things that need to be balanced. If a road that thousands travel on daily is being demolished to make way for a park that a few hundred people will maybe use, then it could be doing more harm than good.

This is ultimately a decision for communities to make, not us armchair planners, and it looks like they valued the park more.

AchtungDrempels,

The traffic hasn’t gone, it’s in a tunnel below the promenade.

Aceticon, (edited )

By your own definition “logical city planning” is best done with a good and well integrated public transportation network and the spaces thus freed by having fewer cars being repurposed for uses with proven health benefits compared to roads … which just happen to be green spaces as there are actual proven benefits for human mental and physical health, both from the greenery and the reduction in noise an particulate polution when big roads with heavy traffic are removed.

Favoring individual cars in a urban environment is actually worse in pretty much every metric: not just mental and physical health but even timewise as better public transportation means way less time wasted in traffic jams, because of all the cars removed from the road and because paradoxically more roads incentivise more cars, so new/bigger roads solve traffic jam problem for a while and then eventualyl it get as bad or worse than before only now there are even more cars, hence more people, stuck in traffic, so more public transportation means shorter commuting times even when you reduce the number/size of roads.

I get the impression that your logic in thinking of more roads for cars as “logical city planning” comes from never having experienced living in an urban setting with a proper well integrated public transport network or widespread use of cycling for short commutes, which is a critical blindspot in knowledge when claiming to understand urban planning.

TheGreatHerald,

Sorry

Ryctre,

I’m sure the people of Duesseldorf are so thankful to have you as their road white knight.

TrickDacy,
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“Logical city planning” for you does not include planning a city that people enjoy living and breathing in. Just one that cars dominate more every year.

Yep, you’re American alright.

Hasuris,

After WW2 cities in NRW have been rebuilt with cars and cars only in mind. You’ve got major roads with 6 lanes crossing right through city centres and residential areas. Traffic is killing people. Roads in favor of public transport makes people buy cars if they want to go anywhere. More cars need more roads. It’s an endless cycle and results in hostile living environments. We need less cars. A lot less.

TrickDacy,
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Yawn. We get that you love fascism

altima_neo, in "Progress"
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The before reminds me of Portland. The waterfront is wasted with i5 and roads running through it.

ZombieTheZombieCat,

That’s how I feel about SoCal. I noticed on Google Maps a lot of homes are taking up the sea cliffs south of LA. I always thought that all coastline in CA was public…

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