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BraveSirZaphod, in In an extinct Australian Aboriginal language, Mbabaram, the word for "Dog" is almost exactly the same as the English word for "Dog". The similarity is a complete coincidence.
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To expand on this, in linguistics, when you notice a similarity between two words, there are three main possibilities.

  1. Common ancestry. The English word "house" and the German word "Haus" are obviously similar, and this is because they both descend from Proto-West-Germanic, with the source word being something like hūs around 1700 years ago or so.
  2. Borrowing. The English word "chef" is a direct loan from French "chef". It's pretty common for the borrowed word to specialize its meaning somewhat. French "chef" merely means "boss", while English "chef" specifically means "boss of a kitchen" (who's probably from France because no one wants to eat English cooking).
  3. Pure coincidence. This dog example is the classic one, but it really does happen, and not exactly infrequently. There are only so many sounds in human language, and across all languages, you're bound to get some random collisions. There is the special case where both words originate from a phenomenon like onomatopoeia or infant language ability (think mama, papa, etc).

The first two are fun because they're evidence of some kind of historical connection, which can sometimes stretch back further than the historical record. Sanskrit in India having a lot of similarities to Greek and Latin is the classical example there (and controversial if you're a Hindu nationalist). Coincidence can be disappointing when you think you've discovered some exciting historical connection, but the dangerous bias that has to be kept in mind is that generally, if you're looking for something, you will find it.

Iunnrais,

I love the analysis done by zompist, here: www.zompist.com/chance.htm

In summary, having a few purely coincidental similar words is extremely likely. In fact, if there were no such similarities that would be weirder, from a mathematical perspective… especially (but not necessarily) if you stretch what might be considered a “similar meaning”, which people often do.

PhlubbaDubba,

You forgot universals, words that wind up with a common derivation in a lot of languages. For example, “Mama” is a common word for mother in completely unrelated languages, because it’s derived from babies frequently making mmm sounds first.

Also animal names derived from the sounds said animals make IIRC Crow is an example of this

BraveSirZaphod,
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I kinda touched on that under coincidence, which is admittedly stretching it a bit, but I also think "universals" is a bit of an overly strong name for the phenomenon.

But it is true that there are some underlying elements of human biology and psychology that can cause some interesting effects as well, though I think people have a tendency to exaggerate them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect

This is a pretty classic example of it.

Deceptichum, in In an extinct Australian Aboriginal language, Mbabaram, the word for "Dog" is almost exactly the same as the English word for "Dog". The similarity is a complete coincidence.
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How? Dingos aren’t dogs, so how did they have a word for a species that they hadn’t seen before colonisation?

Iliveonsaturdays,

Interesting question, I hadn’t thought about that. I assume they mean dingos.

"Australia’s Indigenous community has had a long relationship with dogs, dating back to the dog’s ancestor, the dingo. Dingo fossils in Australia date back thousands of years, and the first British settlers in 1788 recorded dingoes living with Indigenous Australians"

outbacktails.com/…/the-important-role-dogs-play-i…

And dingos are a dog breed

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo

yokonzo, in the FDA is considering a ban on menthol cigarette sales

So I totally forgot about this but, they banned them in Illinois and they just… They’re still there, no one around me has stopped selling them

insomniac,
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There’s a story every couple years that the FDA has banned them. But I guess I never see the follow up where it doesn’t work.

Blizzard, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket
Mouselemming, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

That’s so sad!

maquise, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

…Roach?

Swim, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

so sad, but moose is my favorite, i hope someone brought it home to butcher

dan1101, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

Is that a car or a shopping cart?

Anders,

It’s a mobility scooter thing with a roof. Something like this:

medema.no/…/mini_crosser_kabin_x2_18568.jpg

gnutrino, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

Well that wasn’t the fun, whimsical story I was hoping for from the title…

Hobart_the_GoKart, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

You’ve heard of elf on a shelf, now get ready for …

hazardous_area, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

You’ve heard of elf on a shelf, now experience moose on a roof

Cosmocrat, in the FDA is considering a ban on menthol cigarette sales

They should have just banned all cigarettes, stinky discusting things!

khaffner, in Moose on the roof of a supermarket

This seems to happen almost yearly in that region

ieightpi, in People may suffer ‘long colds’ more than four weeks after infection, study shows | Medical research

The article is confusing. Are they saying COVID causes long colds? In other words now that COVID is like the common cold when you get it, they are just saying you have mild long COVID I think?

fubo,

The visibility of long-COVID has led people to reevaluate whether other viruses cause “long” syndromes. It looks like rhinovirus (aka “the common cold”) can, too.

There are other viruses that were already known to cause “long” symptoms, often due to damage caused to the nervous system by the virus or the immune response. Post-polio syndrome has been known for a long time, for example.

ieightpi,

Thansl for clarifying. This is very interesting.

sbv,

That’s a very succinct explanation!

Caligvla,
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They’re saying that, like covid, colds also have lasting after effects.

bl4ckblooc,

It didn’t seem that difficult I got it from the headline. I guess some people’s thinking goes out the window when COVID is mentioned

yenahmik, in People may suffer ‘long colds’ more than four weeks after infection, study shows | Medical research

Oh man. This caused a flashback to that time I had a 3 day long cold that caused me to cough non-stop for the next month until I went to the doctor for steroids to make it stop.

Buddahriffic,

I had periods when I was younger where I’d be congested for months at a time.

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