PhlubbaDubba,

Problem is in the US since so much of that is put into private sector hands we’d need to gather data on those costs outside of the taxes to put together a proper picture.

orbituary,

I paid twice that in taxes here in the USA and I still don’t have proper health insurance. If I got sick, I would be destitute.

MR_,
@MR_@ttrpg.network avatar

You pay more in taxes than I earn in a year.

ghostblackout,

Other purposees are maybe funding for the esa (european space agency)

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Based.

Wisi_eu,
@Wisi_eu@sh.itjust.works avatar

You pay 20 000 $ of taxes!!!

Agent641,

Yes, from a salary of about 90k. However this is federal tax. We dont pay individual state taxes as well. Our sales tax is built into the price of goods. Our healthcare is also completely free.

jasondj,

Comparatively, in the US a $90k USD salary is about $10,415 in federal taxes.

However, my family healthcare is about $22k in premiums alone, for a high-deductible plan. This includes the employer-paid portion, as that is part of my total compensation package. Then there is the deductible ($5k) before the insurance starts paying out. And this is not including Medicare/SS taxes as well.

Centaur,

In my country government spending is mystery for tax payers.

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

In most countries tbh

BlazeMaster3000,

You can request this in most countries, especially here in Canada. It’s cool that the Aussie government makes it more transparent and accessible though. The “other purposes” seems a bit sussy-baka, though.

LambdaDuck,

i’m assuming that “other purposes” are other categories that each are smaller than the ones listed. they are probably available on a website or something that gives the full list.

it would be nice if they had merged them together in wider but more informative categories though

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

There is no excuse for any country not to do this TBH. The math is really easy and uses already available information: take the year’s total federal spending for different things, specifically in the form of percentages of the year’s total tax revenue (hopefully the government has been keeping track of what they’ve been using the money for) and multiply by the total taxes paid by a specific person and you get exactly how much of their money went to what. This assumes every person’s tax revenue is treated the same which I’m pretty sure is at least mostly the case in every country.

If they release the national spending percentages (which they should) then it’d be pretty easy for individuals to calculate these themselves.

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Well there is a reason: they spend it on bullshit and they don’t want tax payers to know

DharmaCurious,

Fun fact: in the United States you can request this same sort of receipt. It’s slightly different, but all you have to do is request it, and they can show you exactly how many brown people they shot, or godless communists they’ve brought democracy to with your taxes!

Mouselemming,

In the US they’d have to print it Landscape in order to have room for the Military bar.

DharmaCurious,

On one of those long ass printer papers with the tear off edges from the 80s.

MajesticNubbin,

One thing to note about this breakdown is that it wasn’t legislated with good intention but it was implemented in a very malicious compliance way that completely counteracted the original intention.

This receipt was legislated by the conservative party in Australia under Tony Abbott, the surface level intention was to “show where people’s tax dollars are spent”. However the underlying intention was to show welfare spending as a huge category that totally eclipsed all other spending in order to demonize welfare, particularly unemployment welfare. In order to build public support for rolling back that spending.

However when the letter was implemented, the welfare category was further broken down as you see here, completely working against the narrative that the government at the time was trying to spin (that unemployment welfare particularly was a huge drain on society).

Clipper152,

Makes sense. I was already worried as soon as I saw “welfare” being bigger than “health”.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot,

Nice

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Well, are they lying? It’s just true that welfare costs a lot of money (the “aged” category takes like half of my country’s taxes)

Ilandar,

Yes, they were lying. We are not talking about the aged pension here.

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Still, in the long term it just improved the government’s transparency

nxfsi,

Instead it shows that boomers are the real drain on society

Beowulf,

Kinda wish we got this in the US. Then people will realize all the junk our taxes support and will also (likely) want to cut spending.

Only in a perfect world

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

50% Army and police

49% Monopoly “bailouts”

1% welfare

mulcahey,

Am American. If I saw a tax breakdown like this, with most of my dollars helping people instead of killing them, I would want to increase spending

instamat,

Is this hard to do in practice? I would love to see a breakdown like this in the United States, and especially on a local level. What’s involved in getting this information? Where does someone even start to request something like this?

dyma,
@dyma@lemmy.world avatar

I assume it has to just be based on the proportion of budget spending and not actually your dollars tracked

instamat,

This might sound dopey so forgive me, but couldn’t my dollars be tracked? Wouldn’t that be a good use for blockchain technology?

TroublesomeTalker,

It would not be a good use for Blockchain technology. Besides the problem that your dollars are a fungible asset that don’t have a physical object associated with it, as soon as you dollars get converted to another state, account, entity, whatever along with another thousands people’s dollars you would lose the tracking. And ultimately even if you could achieve this it would then either all fall to one or two accounts so you would have the disheartening effect of seeing your entire annual contribution spent on something tedious like fuelling an aircraft carrier, or they would attempt to distribute it evenly in which case why not save all the effort and just track the average spend budgets? It’s a solution looking for a problem here.

instamat,

Ah, thank you for the explanation. I thought that money could be tracked even through conversion, but now I see how that wouldn’t be possible. It’s better suited for tracking bitcoin and the like, right?

Part of me wants to see that tedious spending of my money but I suppose it wouldn’t do me any good. An average breakdown would be nice, starting with my property taxes.

irotsoma,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

In the US we just all know that it’s bombs to kill the enemies of whoever the companies are allowed to sell them to, and fighter jets that don’t work.

Madison420,

It’s cocaine and prostitutes because it’s always cocaine and prostitutes.

Zozano,

Nice to see our debt is being reduced. Meanwhile, the US is struggling to figure out how not to let their economy implode.

yoz,

They got is sorted mate. They printing more money.

cubicle0924, (edited )

Unfortunately paying the interest on your debt is not the same as paying down the actual (principle) debt. Unless there’s something I’m not seeing.

Edit: There was in fact something I wasn’t seeing.

Fluid,
@Fluid@aussie.zone avatar

See “gross debt this year” and “last year”. We had surplus so it has been put toward paying down the principle

cubicle0924,

Derp, I just looked at bar chart breakdown, didn’t see that.

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