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blahsay, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - THE MARVELS - Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, Iman Vellani - Dir. by Nia DaCosta

Given all the paid reviews and astroturfing by marvel, such low reviews should tell you everything you need to know.

MoreOrLess, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - THE HOLDOVERS - Paul Giamatti, Da'Vine Joy Randolph, Dominic Sessa - Dir. by Alexander Payne

Kinda common trope, old grumpy dude vs young misunderstood dude, they don’t like each other at first but eventually they get along. BUT, it’s done very well and overall has a heartwarming angle. 7.5/10

justhach, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - THE MARVELS - Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, Iman Vellani - Dir. by Nia DaCosta
@justhach@lemmy.world avatar

Movie itself was pretty even keel, not great, not terrible.

Cons: weak uninspired villain, that fucking singing planet

Pros: Kamala and her family, cool explorations of the the Marvels’ powers, taking advantage of their quantum entaglement, and probably one of the best real hype post credits scenes since the OG thanos teaser.

canthidium,
@canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed on the cons. That planet was just dumb. And yeah that credits scene was definitely a fishing line to Marvel/X-Men fans.

rezz,

X-Men is my favorite. I don’t need to watch this, right?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like just a mid-credits sequence.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Heh, mid

DragonTypeWyvern,

YouTube has you

MimicJar,
@MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

I liked the singing planet but wish they had leaned much harder into it.

When we arrive everyone is just standing around and don’t start singing until they notice the Marvels. I understand the reveal joke but they could have handled it better.

The prince being bilingual was fine.

However when it came to battle that should have been a huge musical number. It could have been an added step to the Marvels working in unison. Have them try to time things together but occasionally messing up. Then they could have hummed/sung along to get more in sync.

Brekky, in Whinge Thread Question: What's your most hated trope in Movies at the moment

Leave me alone I’m obnoxious/spoiled/grumpy/a loner.

Oh no wait, it’s 5 mins from the end of the movie, let me change my entire personality through the use of some grand gesture.

It’s OK the first couple of times but gets boring real fast.

Amd most recently seen in ‘No Hard Feelings’ which started out sooo strong, had me proper laughing, and then descended into mediocrity. Such a letdown.

Gahhh

InfiniWheel, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - THE MARVELS - Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, Iman Vellani - Dir. by Nia DaCosta

Iman deserved better. Hell, I wish Kamala rather deal with smaller stakes instead of throwing her into two save the world conflicts back to back.

canthidium, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - THE MARVELS - Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, Iman Vellani - Dir. by Nia DaCosta
@canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know where any of the positive reviews are coming from. It was awful. Not even for a MCU movie, it was a bad movie, period. Everything is so disjointed and all over the place. There’s no explanation for things that need explanations and they over-explain things that are obvious. The villain, while having some motivation, was just weak and forgettable.

Brie Larson was in and out. Sometimes she was decent, but a lot of times felt like she was reading off cue cards. Teyonah Parris was OK, but she’s terrible at fight choreography. She kept running up and getting in position constantly and just looked off. Sam Jackson was a clown. I mean I don’t think he had a single line that wasn’t a joke. I don’t even get his characterization at all. Iman Vellani was the best thing about this film. She was a delight every time she was on screen and I love how she’s the new ‘Fury’ in recruiting the YA team. Glad to see references to the other members finally.

The whole singing planet was just…IDK. The flerkin stuff was OK but I felt wore out its welcome, especially the end there. But the mid credits scene was interesting. Beast looked kinda weird, but he seems to be a completely CGI character and not Kelsey Grammar, despite using his voice. So I wonder if the X-Men are only in that universe. It would give an explanation why we haven’t seen any mutants up until recently.

I’m still in as a long time Marvel fan, but wow, this movie was a mess.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Well, Flanderization comes for everything.

Marvel thinks the quips are what people are there for, not the explosions, punching, and hot people in skintight leather outfits.

Rhoeri, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - THE MARVELS - Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, Iman Vellani - Dir. by Nia DaCosta
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

But why though?

Hadriscus,

are you serious ? I just told you that a moment ago

Rhoeri,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think you did.

thessnake03, in [DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] - THE KILLER - Michael Fassbender, Tilda Swinton, Charles Parnell - Dir. by David Fincher

I love all his fake names are old tv characters

skybreaker, in Crisis at Marvel: Jonathan Majors Back-Up Plans, ‘The Marvels’ Reshoots, Reviving Original Avengers and More Issues Revealed
@skybreaker@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, I still believe there can be good Marvel movies. Just pull back on the number of releases. And not every movie needs to be Avengers Endgame successful. They are trying to do that for every release and it is understandably backfiring hard.

justhach,
@justhach@lemmy.world avatar

If they went back to doing standalone movies with very loose tie ins (or none at all) to the MCU at large, instead of every movie feeling like a 105 minute trailer for the next movie, more people would see them.

One of the best things to come out post Endgame (for me at least) has been Moon Knight, precisely because it stood by itself with no connection to the MCU at large.

Once they realize that movies can be reasonably successful without having to tie in to one overarching, decade spanning plot, they’ll go back to being good.

MargotRobbie, in STRIKE OVER: Actors Make a Deal With Studios After 118 Days
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

What a great story it would make, if this is to be our happy ending.

But the story has only just begun. There is no ending yet.

One day, we will all be free.

Syd,

Hope you have enough time to still post on Lemmy Margot!!

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

TIL Margot Robbie is an android power user 🤣

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

That’s esteemed Academy Award nominated (and soon, winning) character actress Margot Robbie to you!

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

I’m going to assume “fugitive of the law” is forthcoming. Aspirational, perhaps.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Been there, done that. “Dreamland”.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

The shitposts won’t stop yet. There will just be… less of it.

southsamurai, in ‘Wonka’ Granted China Release On Same Day As ‘Migration’; Both Pics Rolling Out Early Overseas
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Man, I hate that I have this gut feeling the movie is going to suck.

Gold_E_Lox,

why hate the feeling? use it as a chance to rewatch the old magic of Willy Wonka. Gene Wilder is truly one of a kind!

fuck cash grab movies like these

southsamurai,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well, I’m open to other interpretations in general. There’s room for that, despite the Wilder Wonka being impossible to beat.

I didn’t hate Charlie and the chocolate factory, though that’s mostly because it was a movie of the book rather than a new version of the movie.

And, I like chalumet (however it’s spelled). He’s done some good work. So I’m not against the idea of him doing it.

It’s what you said, it feels like a cash grab rather than a genuine attempt at making a new movie. Those so rarely end well. And, if it sucks as bad as I fear, it kinda t aints the story itself; it would be harder for someone else to do a new movie based on the book in the future (I still maintain that the Wilder movie wasn’t meant to be a true translation of the book, and the Depp movie failed at that despite trying). I’d like to see a truly faithful translation of the book.

CosmicCleric, in STRIKE OVER: Actors Make a Deal With Studios After 118 Days
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

From the articles…

The union is so far being mum on the details of the agreement, which will likely emerge in the next few days prior to the union’s ratification vote.

I wonder why?

PunnyName,

Because this is how it’s done. They don’t shout it all from the rooftops until everything is nice and tidy.

Electromagnetic,

We get details of tentative agreements from all kinds of other labor action before those deals are ratified. When the actor were unhappy we sure knew what details they were unhappy about, and they never ratified anything.

Why the need for secrecy now it’s all said and done?

Shazbot,

It’s a tentative agreement. Meaning they have a general framework for the contract, but nothing is signed as certain details are still being worked on. Negotiations are still ongoing.

CmdrShepard,

Why the need for secrecy now it’s all said and done?

Because it’s not all said and done yet lol

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Seems worth a victory lap though, especially considering how hard they worked on it.

4am,

If they don’t ratify it then it’s not a victory is it?

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

If they don’t ratify it then it’s not a victory is it?

From the article…

The union is so far being mum on the details of the agreement, which will likely emerge in the next few days prior to the union’s ratification vote.

canthidium,
@canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

It’s only the tentative agreement. This is how it goes every time. Once they finalize it and all everyone has signed, then they will release the details. It could still be reversed at this stage.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Once they finalize it and all everyone has signed, then they will release the details.

From the article…

The union is so far being mum on the details of the agreement, which will likely emerge in the next few days prior to the union’s ratification vote.

canthidium, (edited )
@canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

You just want to argue, don’t you? They never announce the details right away. The details may come out but the official announcement won’t be until after it’s finalized. Same thing happened with the writers strike. The article says the details may emerge, not be officially announced.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

You just want to argue, don’t you?

No, not at all. I thought we were having a conversation.

Once they finalize it and all everyone has signed, then they will release the details.

I mean that’s what you said, which just seemed the contradict what was said in the story, …

The union is so far being mum on the details of the agreement, which will likely emerge in the next few days prior to the union’s ratification vote.

, so I mentioned that in the hope that you would elaborate on that, by either saying you’re incorrect, or that the story was incorrect for some reason.

If someone’s seeking a correction doesn’t automatically mean they want argumentative combat with you, they just want to resolve the discrepancy.

grayhaze,
@grayhaze@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes someone will argue a technicality just to try to appear the smarter person. You’re just being a pedant at this point.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes someone will argue a technicality just to try to appear the smarter person. You’re just being a pedant at this point.

You’re making assumptions on my intentions without any actual knowledge of me as a person to base them on.

My life is not so minimal that I feel the need to prove my intelligence to strangers on the Internet. All I was looking for was social interaction and conversation (and in this case, clarification) which you know, is what Lemmy is supposed to be about.

And defending oneself is not being pedant.

canthidium,
@canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

I mean that’s what you said, which just seemed the contradict what was said in the story, …

But it doesn’t, though. The article says the details will likely emerge. Again, that doesn’t mean announced or released by SAG-AFTRA. The writer of the article is not a spokesperson for SAG-AFTRA.

, so I mentioned that in the hope that you would elaborate on that, by either saying you’re incorrect, or that the story was incorrect for some reason.

Exactly, you’re looking to win an argument. Neither what I said nor the article are incorrect. They are different statements.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly, you’re looking to win an argument.

So you didn’t quote the part where I said I was just looking for clarification, and not attacking.

I’m really not trying to argue with you, so please don’t put intentions into my mouth that I didn’t have.

Again, that doesn’t mean announced or released by SAG-AFTRA.

Does it mean it’s not either. I’m making the assumption that they’re going to announce days beforehand so their base knows what they’re voting for.

The writer of the article is not a spokesperson for SAG-AFTRA.

Because writers never ask questions of spokespersons, either on or off the record, and get information that’s accurate that they would put in their story, right?

I mean, this is really blowing all out of intention/proportion. I was just trying to find out if you were some kind of insider who knew what you were speaking about, to learn something new and different about the subject being discussed. I wasn’t trying to publicly embarrass you, was just seeing that what you were saying was different than what the article was saying.

Edit: I just got the information I needed off of CNN, where they listed what was in the agreement.

Have a good day.

canthidium,
@canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

So you didn’t quote the part where I said I was just looking for clarification, and not attacking.

Why would I quote the part I’m not responding to? And it’s not like your comment is hidden. It’s right above my comment for anyone to see…

Does it mean it’s not either. I’m making the assumption that they’re going to announce days beforehand so their base knows what they’re voting for.

Yep, you’re making assumptions. This is also not like an election. There’s no 'base" to tell. The people that vote will be told what they need internally.

Because writers never ask questions of spokespersons, either on or off the record, and get information that’s accurate that they would put in their story, right?

Yes, they ask questions and the spokesperson tells them what they need/want to. And off the record wouldn’t be published. What are you not understanding?

I was just trying to find out if you were some kind of insider who knew what you were speaking about, to learn something new and different about the subject being discussed. I wasn’t trying to publicly embarrass you, was just seeing that what you were saying was different than what the article was saying.

If you were trying to learn something new, you wouldn’t be trying to prove people wrong with your comments. Come on, man.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Why would I quote the part I’m not responding to?

You’re not being intellectually honest, because your response was to negate mine.

And, CNN broadcasted today, days early, what I was asking about.

I stand by what I’ve said.

canthidium, (edited )
@canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not being intellectually honest, because your response was to negate mine.

The context is literally right above, nothing’s being hidden. What are you talking about? Also, and your initial post wasn’t? Give me a break.

And, CNN broadcasted today, days early, what I was asking about.

SAG-AFTRA has still not put out an official public statement, only a statement to their members. The details came out despite this, exactly what I said.

EDIT: You know I can see you downvoting right? I didn’t downvote any of your comments.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

The union members generally know what is going on and that is all that matters.

We’ll find out once everything goes back to normal and everyone is chatting with TMZ

norske, in Guys, they Batgirl'd the Coyote vs. Acme movie.

Can we talk a moment about how much John Cena should take up Jim Varney’s torch and become Earnest P Worrell Jr.?

Slinky5737,

But only if he maintains a training regimen on par with Hugh Jackman’s for Wolverine. I want to see squiggly veins in Ernest’s biceps.

norske,

Oh yeah. It’s gotta be some over the top story arc. Like Ernest Jr’s mother was/is a circus strong-woman that met Ernest Sr in the early 80s. Ernest Jr goes on an adventure to learn all about his father, embraces the absurdity. Could

Its_Always_420,
@Its_Always_420@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe like Super Saiyan Ernest

Peafield, in Whinge Thread Question: What's your most hated trope in Movies at the moment

A character suddenly gets a lot of emotional backstory indicating they are about to die.

NataliePortland, in Whinge Thread Question: What's your most hated trope in Movies at the moment
@NataliePortland@lemmy.ca avatar

“You just don’t get it, do you?”

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