alyaza,
@alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

looks like there’s either going to be an unwieldy anti-PVV coalition or new elections forthcoming, as VVD has just ruled out a cabinet with Wilders.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

nigel powers was right

Thelsim,

This is so depressing…
I knew it would be bad, but not this bad. Only comfort I can take is in the fact that they’ll have to form a coalition with other major parties. Most of them already flat-out denied working together with the PVV (Partij Voor de Vrijheid - Party For Freedom) but we’ll see how much of that will remain true.
Hopefully the coalition will break and we’ll have new elections in a year or so.

Treczoks,

If the other parties get their acts together, the PVV seats will not matter.

Namstel,

I can’t see a coalition of PVV, NSC, BBB and VVD serving the full 4 years. NSC and BBB are completely new, and the last time PVV was in a coalition they let it fall…

Thelsim,

They don’t need the BBB though. PVV, NSC and VVD should be good for an 81 seat majority.
But yes, I pretty much expect the coalition to fall within a year or two (should they manage to get a coalition to begin with). The question is who will cause the fall and who will be scapegoated. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll be positioning themselves for this inevitability from the start.

hulemy,

If they get BBB they will have a good number in the senate though

Thelsim,

That’s true, I didn’t think of that.

jayrodtheoldbod,

Uh oh how was I to know that Thor High Heels was a minority opinion he said ironically

GiddyGap,

So, you complain about Trump and then you proceed to elect your own Trump. What’s up with that, Netherlands?

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org avatar

In another year we’re going to reelect Trump, sadly.

GiddyGap,

We’ll see about that.

Kusimulkku,

First polls didn’t seem great but it’s too soon to say ofc

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org avatar

No, we won’t.

History has proven out that no one cares what your political ideology is if you’re the candidate of change in a time of poverty, and thanks to Biden’s inaction, the massive increase in cost of living nationwide is going to sink his reelection prospects.

The Republicans are not going to have to lie about how little he’s done to help the poor and middle class.

HelixTitan,

Except there were 80 million people who said no to that last time. Trump is not the candidate of change regardless of what one thinks of Biden, to even pretend that is absurd. I honestly don’t think anyone would now somehow be more sympathetic towards him. He hasn’t changed, and neither has the American public

FlashMobOfOne, (edited )
@FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org avatar

You could be right, but I wouldn’t want to have to sell Biden’s record to people who are paying more than double for groceries since he got elected. Wages, where they’ve increased, haven’t kept up with cost of living, and that’s going to be a big deal in the election.

IHadTwoCows,

Clearly the wealthy are being taxed too much and can’t afford to pay living wages. Damn you, Biden!!!

pbjamm,
@pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar

the massive increase in cost of living nationwide

Worldwide. This is not just an America thing.

rgb3x3,

It’s not going to matter to the voters. They can’t see part their TVs.

GiddyGap,

Trump is not the candidate of change. Everyone knows him and knows what he stands for. And he’s been rejected many times.

The Republicans are not going to have to lie about how little he’s done to help the poor and middle class.

It’s just a feeling you have. The average American is actually better off than ever. If you’re not better off than ever, you’re probably just not the average American.

investopedia.com/americans-are-wealthier-than-eve…

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org avatar

It’s just a feeling you have. The average American is actually better off than ever.

The average American, no matter where they live, is dealing with a 30% to 50% cost of living increase over the last couple of years, when Biden’s been in office.

That’s going to be hard to sell in a reelection campaign.

GiddyGap,

Yeah, that’s what the article is talking about. That feeling of being less well off.

But even accounting for inflation, the average American is actually better off than ever, also while Biden’s been in office.

t3rmit3, (edited )

That feeling of being less well off.

I got bad news for you: no one cares what an economist says about how they should feel, they only care about how they DO feel, and most Americans feel worse off.

That’s not Biden’s fault, obviously, it’s Capitalism’s, but try explaining that to your average American.

vividspecter, (edited )

It’s only one quarter of the seats, but because there’s multiple parties that’s enough for a plurality. Still, pathetic that there’s even that level of support and it is higher than previously.

Hopefully the other parties have the sense to not support them in government. And indeed, that’s what the article suggests:

But the heads of the three other biggest Dutch parties have all said they would not serve in a PVV-led cabinet.

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