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whou, in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

i’m so fucking sad that a shitty¹ company was able to bully a 100% legal piece of FOSS to shut down.

It is THE best app for reading manga, and it single-handedly started my love and (healthy) addiction to reading manga lol. It’s also one of the best examples on how a FOSS model is superior to any competitive proprietary one.

I hope so much luck to the devs and every contributor. Their work through all these years is immeasurable. Makes me regret a little for not trying to contribute to the community with some code at a time I was wanting to. Thanks for all the hours of fun reading manga. I’m sure at this very moment people are already organizing a fork to live on Tachiyomi’s legacy, as is the spirit of FOSS.

d3Xt3r, (edited )

There are already a few actively maintained forks of Tachiyomi. TachiJ2K and TachiyomiSY are two such popular forks which have several features not present in the original app. In fact, many hardcore manga readers in the community had already switched to them years ago. There’s also Aniyomi, which not only supports manga but also watching anime via extensions, the same way you’d read manga in Tachiyomi.

So thanks to the power of FOSS, Tachiyomi already continues to live on and you don’t need to wait for a fork.

@simple @junezephier @WadamT

Mannivu,

Are we sure TachiJ2K will still be developed? I really hope Kakao won’t threaten them too.

jacktherippah,

Jay hasn’t responded yet. I’m still holding out hope. J2K is my favorite fork.

dditty,

Is this what I have to do to get extensions working in TachiJ2K or TachiyomiSY?

reddit.com/…/unofficial_help_guide_for_tachiyomi_…

d3Xt3r,

Yep. I use keiyoushi and it works fine.

Anti_Face_Weapon,

The word needs to get out about this somehow

whou,

oh yeah, I heard about the already forked projects before, certainly awesome that people already have that option. I do use Aniyomi, and it’s pretty damn good.

For some reason I’ve never felt like I needed extra features that the main project didn’t have, so I’ve never looked out for forks. But looking at some of the forks right now they seem pretty good as well and do have features that would be super useful to me. Certainly will try it out.

FOSS is so amazing.

alansuspect, in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

I haven’t heard of this before, but why is a reader a threat to a company? What’s the issue?

War,

It’s not but to a company it’s a gateway to threats (extensions) so as far as they’re concerned it’s a threat.

Inui,

The reader includes extensions that allow you to download manga from various unofficial sources. So their justification is that it facilitates piracy. It’s still the best manga reader (imo), but there’s dozens of other options for local media without that feature. There’s no world in which I buy physical manga or subscribe to 12 different services to get access to the ones I want to read, so I don’t know how much the company is ‘winning’ with this move.

Chaewon, in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.
@Chaewon@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Tachiyomi was so good that I literally kept my old android around only for that app.

Suwayomi still exists but it relies on Tachiyomi extensions so I don’t know how useful it’s going to be going forward.

Frick Kakao!!

American_Jesus,
Armand1, in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

As someone who has used this app for at least 6 years, I am very sad to see this happen.

I’m surprised they weren’t able to get away with it after the change in extensions a couple versions ago. By not shipping extensions that have copyrighted content that should have been enough, similar to how emulators, services like Plex and torrenting applications survive.

It’s effectively just a comic / manga reader that can be used for piracy when the right extensions are added.

Apparently that wasn’t enough, and I can’t blame open source devs for not wanting to start a legal battle with a profit-earning company.

For now, the app does allow you to add external repository’s (list of extensions for various sources) that are still being updated, and I believe there are at least a few forks of the project that will survive for now.

All I can say is great work to the dev team for sticking with us until now and I wish you luck in your future ventures.

Secret300, in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

This is why I need weaponized drones.

ULS,

Do you have a 3d printer?

Secret300,

Nah I’m broke

onlinepersona, in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.

We really need federated source forges on anonymous networks like I2P.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Developers have a right to eat and pay for a roof over their head. NC prevents that.

onlinepersona,

Donations don’t exist.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

twei,

What? Why?

onlinepersona,

Then the devs could be anonymous and the their repos couldn’t be taken down.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

twei,

Okay, but why? Can’t you do that with selfhosted gitea/gitlab/forgejo? Remember that access to the instance has to be easy enough that normies can use it, so I guess having to figure out i2p is not viable

onlinepersona,

Because they you can ignore takedown requests and just focus on working on the project, not fearing lawsuits.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Linus_Torvalds,

Unironically thank you for licensing your comments! :)

Gooey0210, in Organic maps which claims to be ad-free was marked by F-Droid as “Containing ads”

Let’s look at the bright side

Now we know and see how fast fdroid would react if a dev pushes malicious code, pretty instant

corvus,
@corvus@lemmy.ml avatar

For me f-droid and debian are the gold standard concerning trusted free software.

Tango, in It's joever. Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed.
@Tango@lemmy.ml avatar

Absolutely legendary app and developer that will be missed. The animanga industry is ruthless.

KarnaSubarna, (edited ) in Memtest86+, the little RAM tester, flexes FOSS muscles with v7.0
@KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

This tool is a godsend at the time when you suspect your RAM has developed a fault.

mp3, (edited )
@mp3@lemmy.ml avatar

Even when I don’t suspect it, I systematically run it on any new PC I build just to ensure I’m running with good RAM out-of-the-box. So far I’ve had this issue only once with a brand new pair but I’m glad I caught it early on.

Evil_incarnate,

I had a 6 month old Acer laptop that started misbehaving so I ran Memtest, it took hours, but found faults in the memory. So I took it back to the shop, they sent it on to Acer who sent it back saying Linux was the problem and I should only use windows. But they replaced the main board, “just in case”

helenslunch, in Raspberry Pi is now manufacturing 70,000 Pi 5s per week, will surge to 90,000 in February
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

That’s nice. Let me know when they’re $30 again.

mp3, (edited )
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

I wouldn’t expect that kind of price anymore except for the Zero models.

ashok36,

The pi 4 is literally $35 right now. The original pi, adjusted for inflation, was $47.

helenslunch, (edited )
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I don’t expect it either, which is why these things don’t make sense anymore, and why I actually recently passed them up for an X86 competitor. Prices of RPi’s have inflated, supply has gone down to nothing, and all the while all sorts of competition has entered the SBC scene that provides a much better value.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the RPi and I feel like a real cool nerd with bare PCBs sitting around my house, but they’re just too expensive now.

MiddledAgedGuy,

Oh cool! I didn’t know about this. Thanks for sharing.

AlexWIWA,

I’d rather have x86 tbh. Thanks for letting me know these exist.

Pringles,

I was in the market for something low budget with two nics for a local firewall. Since this gave me a nice discount on top, I ordered a zimaboard now as it’s pretty much exactly what I need. Thanks for the tip

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Biggest benefit of those things is that they come with SATA ports so you can use them to build a <$100 2-bay NAS which is about half the price of popular competitors but with way more power.

towerful,

A refurbished thin client from eBay. Or a refubed sff/usff.
They are pretty much the same price these days, and come with a case/PSU.
If you don’t need the GPIO and special connectors that a raspberry pi has, sff/usff is going to be cheaper, has upgradeable ram&sata and some have pcie3.0 slot.
Running pihole (let’s be honest, a huge reason people buy a pi)? Get a usff/sff, slap an SSD (probably the cost of a raspberry pi case/PSU/SD-card) in there and an intel i340-t4 4port NIC (this is extra. Can just use the onboard NIC), and install proxmox. Then run pihole in a VM. And now you have spare capacity to run a whole bunch of other fun things, with the safety net of snapshots and backups so if you mess up a config you can just roll another VM.

DoctorWhookah,

Yea. I miss those days.

ashok36,

The cheapest rpi that isn’t a zero or pico started at $35. You can buy a Pi 4 Model B 1GB for $35 on pishop.us right now.

The pi 5 won’t ever be $35 because that’s not the price point it was designed to hit. That’s why they have a range of products, so you can buy the one that fits your budget.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Can’t do much with 1GB. And the Pi4 isn’t part of a “product range”, it’s the previous generation product.

ashok36, (edited )

Of course the pi 4 is still part of the product range. It’s still being actively manufactured and sold. Same for the pi3.

As far as memory size, that wasn’t part of your original complaint. You want a $35 computer, that’s how much you get. The original pi was $35 and had 256mb of ram.

-edit also, $35 in 2012 is $47 today with inflation. The pi 4 is a crazy good deal and readily available. This complaint just has no merit.

helenslunch, (edited )
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Of course the pi 4 is still part of the product range. It’s still being actively manufactured and sold.

Its a 5-year old product. With 5 year old specs.

As far as memory size, that wasn’t part of your original complaint.

Yes I also didn’t specify a clock speed, storage size, network speed, etc. What I meant was a modern version of an old product with similarly modern specs.

$35 in 2012 is $47 today

And yet the Pi5 starts at $60.

You’re also missing the other half of this conversation where other SBCs have come way down in price.

Le Potato, Orange Pi, Zima products, Rockchip, not to mention all the X86 mini PCs, old office PCs, etc.

FutileRecipe,

Its a 5-year old product. With 5 year old specs.

It’s a Pi. Cutting edge (or even modern or high end) specs have never been it’s selling point or goal.

ashok36,

This is just goal moving at this point. And stating just plain incorrect facts. I’m out.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I’m not moving the goal posts, you just ignored one of them.

ashok36,

I didn’t ignore anything. You edited your reply to make it look like I did.

I replied at 7:31GMT. You replied to that at 7:34GMT. You edited your original post at 7:44GMT for some reason.

This isn’t reddit where you can’t see when or if someone edited their comment.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah no shit. I didn’t remove anything. Just added it. The part you ignored is still there.

Go ahead and honor your promise to be “out”.

haui_lemmy, in Raspberry Pi is now manufacturing 70,000 Pi 5s per week, will surge to 90,000 in February

I think pi is on the road to mainstream. Probably time to shift to an open source hardware competitor to boost it. Not saying pi is bad, I have one and its great. Those like me who love tinkering should consider going the extra mile and „radicalize“ themselves to open hardware. The project I hear the most of is Banana-PI. www.banana-pi.org

AbackDeckWARLORD,

What shops sell these?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Most alternatives use Rockchips such as Rk3566 or 3588 which are better in every way to the Pi chips of their respective price points. As long as they don’t use the Allwinner chips it’s usually decent out of the box but still a bit lacking.

I like Orange Pi more. They have pretty good out of the box documentation and a good range of hardware.

Radxa is also an option but they seem to offer the same stuff as Orange Pi but more expensive.

morbidcactus,

I used a lepotato on my last project in place of a pi3 but libre computer totally has rockchip boards available as well. Price wise seemed decent, documentation was decent enough for me and more importantly I could actually get one.

haui_lemmy,

Thank you very much for pointing this out! It seems I‘ll have to read up on this stuff for my next home automation project.

homesweethomeMrL, in Raspberry Pi is now manufacturing 70,000 Pi 5s per week, will surge to 90,000 in February

Are they still telling their users to suck it?

eiara.nz/…/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident…

calzone_gigante, in Raspberry Pi is now manufacturing 70,000 Pi 5s per week, will surge to 90,000 in February

I’m just hoping rockchip gets better kernel support. They are way better positioned on the CxB scale.

AnneBonny, in What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it

I don’t think I like this guy.

toiletobserver,

Why? I read most of the article and he seems interested in benefitting common users, even if the licensing system has to be more complex than the current state. He cites the same abuses that have driven enshitification.

WhatAmLemmy,

Because modern proprietary software is built on the backs of open source projects, but the devs who manage them are poorly compensated (if at all) — essentially doing thousands of hours of unpaid labor that the private sector exploits for profit.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

That seems to be what this guy wants to address.

AnneBonny,

I need to think about it some.

lemmy_user_838586,

Completely unrelated, but nice username. I loved her character in Black Sails.

rufus, (edited ) in What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it

I’m not sure. The benefit of open source is that you can just take it and use it. And even incorporate it into your own projects. And it’s super easy, all you have to do is make the source available if it’s copyleft.

Now people want to add money to the mix, define valid use-cases, have me file paperwork to become a non-profit etc… Especially adding money to the mix could turn out bad in my eyes. Currently people are incentivised by other things. Software development and usage is a level playing field and you get gifted awesome programs. I’m really not sure if more capitalism helps. (But yes, I also think it’s annoying that companies like IBM, Amazon and Google make big money and often don’t contribute. And maybe handling money is unavoidable, for example since nowadays many projects need to pay for infrastructure, or do automated builds / tests / CI and that also costs money unless Github helps you out.)

I already dislike the growing amount of Source-Available software, and software that contains the commons clause. Can I now share this with my friends? Can they invite some more people to the instance? Do I need a lawyer and do proper accounting if they contribute paying for the server? What if the software relies on other software (libraries/databases) that aren’t free anymore?

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