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schwim, in Dr. Google will see you now
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This is too vague to even discuss.

misophist,

Thank you. As much as I want more info, there’s literally nothing to discuss unless they bring hard evidence.

ioslife, in Review of The Search Engine Kagi

I like Kagi and have been using since September. Just wish they could prove they aren’t logging anything.

celeste,
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Are there independent groups that audit that kind of thing?

Atemu,
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satanmat, in Satellite GPS Messenger

Well that’s kinda the point.

I’d think that it would not really be a concern… Google tracks your location via its apps. As do others.

But I’d be more concerned in town rather than when you’re outin the wilderness

UnexploredEnigma,

Fair…

Batteries are removable! Maybe I don’t have anything to worry about then. I can keep the batteries out until I need it.

elfio,

Maybe at the time you most need it, you’d want it to be as readily as possible. May I suggest a thin plastic layer to open the circuit rather than having the batteries out?

Anticorp, in So, Neuralink got FDA approval for human trials, and a certain fanbase is VERY excited about that

I want to thank Facebook for making it blatantly obvious to us that we should never get any brain implants. They’ll definitely use them to read your thoughts and push ads straight into your consciousness. Oh, and you’ll probably have to pay a subscription.

atyaz,

Your tinnitus will get progressively louder until you pay your bill

Anticorp,

Hello Satan. I didn’t realize you use Lemmy.

NocturnalMorning, in Pharmacies Are Giving Your Medical Data To Police

Of course they are, why would there be a basic expectation of privacy for medical data, it’s only a HiPAA violation to disclose it.

cheese_greater,

Someone needs to request the worst of the worst police officers’ personal prescription records and release those to make a point

RandoCalrandian,
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And then we can celebrate the them at their funeral. So sad how many accidental officer firearm discharges are associated with people “making a point”.

Seriously, what part of surveillance police state do people not understand

TheHobbyist,

Unfortunately, I’m afraid it will only enforce a two tier privacy system: one where people of importance get granted a privilege when others don’t…

cheese_greater,

I’m obliquely suggesting its already that way and it needs to be reconfigured. Said bad apple’s records would likely be treated with professional courtesy like those friends of the police get out tickets free cards

cogitoprinciple, in Can Apps Share Data Back n Forth on GrapheneOS?
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I don’t know if Google Camera would share the information with Sandboxed Google Play. However, something to be careful of, is if you have two apps by the same developer (Google in this case), and you have network permissions for only one of them. The developer could share those permissions with their other app. TheHatedOne did a podcast episode on this. He checked with a GrapheneOS developer beforehand, and found, that this is possible.

MagneticFusion,

Yea I have heard of that too. Unfortunately I don’t know what other Camera app I would use. Open Camera has a good amount of features but I can’t stand the UI, and the GrapheneOS camera is very bare bones. I have tried some other proprietary camera apps but none of them seem to be as good as Gcam and for obvious reasons.

cogitoprinciple,
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Ultimately, it depends on if it is an issue in terms of your threat model. I have noproblems with people using some proprietary tools. Sometimes you do need things to just work, unfortunately.

thegreekgeek,
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Oh god the ui is so bad. Like what’s so hard about multiple lenses that they can’t have a single zoom slider?

cozycosmic, in Satellite GPS Messenger

Can you keep it turned off or battery removed when not needed for emergencies?

UnexploredEnigma,

Yes, batteries are removable!

Scary_le_Poo, in Meta payment message
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Hermit app make PWAs a realistic alternative

promitheas,
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Seems like a very interesting app. Is it open source by any chance?

Scary_le_Poo,
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No idea, didn’t really care.

hermit.chimbori.com/help/

netchami, in Comparison of Android ROMs

TL;DR: Use GrapheneOS, it’s by far the best.

0x2d,

no option to root ; it has you lock your bootloader after installation

LemmyIsFantastic, (edited ) in Are Phones and Smart Speakers Listening to You? Cox Media Group Claims They Can | Cord Cutters News

And yet thousands of security researchers can’t find a shed of evidence. This shit is tiresome and counter productive. The general public is weary of hearing this made up bullshit.

The technical practice isn’t hard. That’s the claim. The reality is nobody is buying shit doing this and this is just another repost from the same 404 article months ago.

JSens1998,

Bro, I’ll literally be having a conversation with someone about a topic, and all of the sudden Google starts recommending me products related to the discussion afterwards. Smart phones and smart speakers without a doubt listen in on our conversations. There’s the evidence.

LemmyIsFantastic, (edited )

Find a literal shred of evidence. You have no clue how ads work bruh.

library_napper, (edited )
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Eh, surprised that’s happening to someone in this community. Strip Google off your phone and throw out any hardware with a microphone that doesn’t run open source software and this will stop happening.

elbarto777,

That’s not evidence. That’s some random anecdote. Back it up or gtfo.

datavoid, in Are Phones and Smart Speakers Listening to You? Cox Media Group Claims They Can | Cord Cutters News

Does anyone know of a good wireshark alternative for android?

Zerush,
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electro1, in Are Phones and Smart Speakers Listening to You? Cox Media Group Claims They Can | Cord Cutters News
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  • set_secret,

    no they don’t.

    iAmTheTot,
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    Got any evidence of that?

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  • Chozo, (edited )

    Following an investigation by Bloomberg, the company admitted that it had been employing third-party contractors to transcribe the audio messages that users exchanged on its Messenger app.

    So not your IRL conversations.

    There is no indication that Facebook has used the information it collected to sell ads.

    So not for ads.

    It says the opposite of the things you claimed.

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  • Chozo,

    Meanwhile, your source contradicts your argument entirely.

    NegativeLookBehind,
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    Imagine if there was some technology where you could search for things and it would show you information about it

    null,

    There is. And the parent commenter can use it to find and share evidence for their claim.

    iAmTheTot,
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    I generally don't go out of my way to validate every crazy thing I read on the internet without any backing evidence supplied.

    Vinegar, (edited )
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    Companies DO analyze what you say to smart speakers, but only after you have said "ok google, siri, alexa, etc." (or if they mistake something like "ok to go" as "ok google"). I am not aware of a single reputable source claiming smart speakers are always listening.

    The reality is that analyzing a constant stream of audio is way less efficient and accurate than simply profiling users based on information such as internet usage, purchase history, political leanings, etc. If you're interested in online privacy device fingerprinting is a fascinating topic to start understanding how companies can determine exactly who you are based solely on information about your device. Then they use web tracking to determine what your interests are, who you associate with, how you spend your time, what your beliefs are, how you can be influenced, etc.

    Your smart speaker isn't constantly listening because it doesn't need to. There are far easier ways to build a more accurate profile on you.

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  • Zeroc00l,

    So, you and your friend were talking about a subject you obviously are interested in, likely spend heaps of time online searching about, commenting and following on social media and you’re surprised you got an ad for it? Bonkers.

    Solemn,

    It’s been published by multiple sources at this point that this happens because of detected proximity. Basically, they know who you hang out with based on where your phones are, and they know the entire search history of everyone you interact with. Based on this, they can build models to detect how likely you are to be interested in something your friend has looked at before.

    nekusoul, (edited )
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    Yup. For companies it’s much safer to connect the dots with the giant amount of available metadata in the background than risk facing a huge backlash when people analyze what data you’re actively collecting.

    Which is why people need to call out the tracking that’s actually happening in the real world a lot more, because I don’t really want my search-history leaked by proxy to people in my proximity either.

    ryannathans,

    A recent study found these devices incorrectly activate like 80 times per day on average

    library_napper,
    @library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

    Link?

    ryannathans, (edited )

    On mobile, can’t find the recent one based on conversation that was floating around lemmy recently.

    This one finds high levels of inconsistent misactivation from TV shows. Some shows caused more than 4 misactivations per hour (a rate of more than 80 per day) …northeastern.edu/…/smart-speakers-study-pets20/

    ristoril_zip,

    It’s literally impossible for them to not be “analyzing” all the sounds they (perhaps briefly) record.

    [Sound] --> [Record] --> [Analyze for keyword] --> [Perform keyword action] OR [Delete recording]

    Literally all sounds, literally all the time. And we just trust that they delete them and don’t send them “anonymized” to be used for training the audio recognition algorithms or LLMs.

    bdonvr,

    It is possible to analyze the traffic leaving these devices, and AFAIK it hasn’t been shown that they are doing this.

    Solemn,

    The way that “Hey Alexa” or “Hey Google” works is by, like you said, constantly analysing the sounds they said. However, this is only analyzed locally for the specific phrase, and is stored in a circular buffer of a few seconds so it can keep your whole request in memory. If the phrase is not detected, the buffer is constantly overwritten, and nothing is sent to the server. If the phrase is detected, then the whole request is sent to the server where more advanced voice recognition can be done.

    You can very easily monitor the traffic from your smart speaker to see if this is true. So far I’ve seen no evidence that this is no longer the common practice, though I’ll admit to not reading the article, so maybe this has changed recently.

    uzay,

    If they were to listen for a set of predefined product-related keywords as well, they could take note of that and send that info inconspicuously to their servers as well without sending any audio recordings. Doesn’t have to be as precise as voice command recognition either, it’s just ad targeting.

    Not saying they do that, but I believe they could.

    mintyfrog, in Meeting new roommates for college and I suggested Signal and this was someone's response. I hate Gen Z.

    Who the fuck uses instagram for group chats?

    MagneticFusion,

    zoomers

    ReverendIrreverence, in I don't have anything to hide, so I don't care
    @ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.ml avatar

    “Here’s a pen and piece of paper. Why don’t you write your username and passwords out for me.”

    Dsklnsadog,
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    I’m a privacy guy too but you can answer your argument with security reasons.

    SnotFlickerman, in Are Phones and Smart Speakers Listening to You? Cox Media Group Claims They Can | Cord Cutters News
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    Services that “listen” for commands like Siri and Alexa have to be, by default, always listening, because otherwise they would not be able to hear the activate command. They are supposed to dump the excess data like anything that came before the activation command, but that’s just a promise. There are very few laws protecting you if that promise turns out to be a lie. The best you can get is likely small restitution through a class action lawsuit (if you didn’t waiver right to that by agreeing to the Terms of Service, which is more often than not, now).

    Of fucking course they’re listening.

    Serinus,

    They’re not. Not yet. People are on edge and looking for this exact thing, which hadn’t happened yet. Meanwhile, they’ve already built a pretty damn good profile of you based on your search queries and mistyped urls.

    null,

    They are supposed to dump the excess data like anything that came before the activation command, but that’s just a promise.

    Where are they hiding that data locally, and how are they making it invisible in transit?

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