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Shamot, in Ghostery Private Search
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Does it detect the paywalls and cookie walls too?

Zerush,
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I don’t use pages with paywalls which I can`t skip (very few), cookie walls don’t exist for me, they are skipped all.

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uninstalled the old one and installed the fossify one, thanks for the hint :)

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    It has 1 downvote…

    Every post that gets even a little traction is going to get some downvotes because people like to troll.

    But this could even just be a misclick - I’ve done that before.

    It’s really not worth worrying about.

    KarnaSubarna, in This is how I KNOW it works as intended
    @KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’m afraid that protection might not last long.

    bleepingcomputer.com/…/brave-to-end-strict-finger…

    anarchy79,
    @anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

    We are just rocks tumbling down a cliff side.

    TexMexBazooka,

    An interesting note-

    Another issue is that Strict mode is used by roughly 0.5% of Brave’s users, with the rest using the default setting, which is the Standard mode.

    This low percentage actually makes these users more vulnerable to fingerprinting despite them using the more aggressive blocker, because they constitute a discernible subset of users standing out from the rest.

    anarchy79,
    @anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s what I’ve always said, you got no out, if youre a big black blob on the map, the connections show exactly who you are.

    TexMexBazooka,

    Fingerprinting is tricky, you have to be as big standard as possible. Ironically privacy plugins make you more identifiable sometimes

    starflower, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites

    Your friendly reminder that the Brave CEO is Mozillas old CEO, who was fired from Mozilla for being unapologetically homophobic.

    Rose,

    Worse than merely being homophobic, as he financially supported politicians and causes that worked to prevent equal rights.

    VerseAndVermin,

    Since everyone else is piling on negatively, I appreciated your friendly reminder.

    BearOfaTime,

    So?

    What I care about in this story is the technical issues.

    starflower,

    O…kay? I don’t really care lmao

    AtmaJnana,

    Pay no attention to the butthurt shills.

    dime,

    Please don’t tell me you wear adidas (founded by a Nazi), or drive a Ford (made by an antisemite), or listen to Wagner, (a racist), or drive a Volkswagen, or play Minecraft, or use wix, or eat at Chick-fil-A, or…etc etc

    starflower,

    I don’t. But “originally made by” and “currently being run by” are, in my opinion, two different things

    YeetPics, (edited )
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    technical issues

    Well technically the CEO would have an issue with you if you were gay

    Lmao

    Engywuck, (edited )

    He wasn’t fired. He voluntarily left. And thus Mozilla is left with an incompetent CEO whose only aim is to increase her paycheck year after year, despite pathetic market share results for FF. Enjoy that.

    That said, nobody cares about your “friendly remainders”. We’re talking about software here, not politics.

    And, to stay on topic, yes, it happened to me that Strict FP broke some website, in particular those displaying a frame with a map or similar stuff. So I’ve resorted to use “standard” FP myself.

    troglodytis, (edited )

    Well, you’re wrong.

    AtmaJnana,

    nobody cares about your “friendly remainders”. We’re talking about software here, not politics.

    Nah. I care. You dont speak for me. I cant tell if you’re a shill for Brave or a MAGAt or both.

    Engywuck,

    I’m not a shill for Brave. It has its fair share of technical issues but it’s the less worse browser for my use case (better than FF, anyway). Your (or mine) opinion on the CEO has nothing to do with the technical issue discussed in OP’s link.

    And no, what MAGA are you talking about? I’m not even 'murican. Take your meds, dude.

    LWD,

    Do you hate the Brave CEO for doing the same thing as the Mozilla CEO, but with even less restraint?

    Or are you just whining in hopes that nobody will question whether you’re being a hypocrite

    Engywuck,

    Yawn… I’m tired of this shit. You people are really ridiculous. I’m going to just block you. Enjoy your cognitive dissonance and your virtue signaling.

    LWD,

    What an ironic thing to post

    Umbrias,

    Technology and ethics and politics are not airgapped magically distinct things. Pretending that they are is a strategic political choice you are actively making.

    Engywuck,

    Ok. I’m a bad person because I enjoy using a given browser. I get that.

    Another one that goes on my ignore list. Bye.

    MrFunnyMoustache,

    Ok. I’m a bad person because I enjoy using a given browser. I get that.

    This is a straw man argument; no one said you’re a bad person for using a certain browser.

    nobody cares about your “friendly remainders”. We’re talking about software here, not politics.

    This is what they are criticising you about. You could be using Edge or Chrome, it wouldn’t matter here, that wouldn’t make you a bad person. The point is that pretending there is no connection when there is clearly a huge relevance here is massive.

    Engywuck,

    The point is that pretending there is no connection when there is clearly a huge relevance here is massive.

    In the imagination of upvotes-hungry virtue-signaling people, of course.

    Umbrias,

    If that’s what you feel is the case if you don’t separate politics from technology then that sounds like a personal problem to address.

    electro1, (edited )
    @electro1@infosec.pub avatar

    Thanks for the reminder

    WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE SAID TO AVOID THE SHIT SHOW THAT HAPPENED BELOW

    seriously though, thanks

    library_napper, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites
    @library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

    Damn I didn’t hate on brave before for all the dumb crypto hate, but this is fuuucked

    Vanth, in The recent problem of maintaining privacy on the Internet (includes Networking)
    @Vanth@reddthat.com avatar

    Think beyond software/online privacy, don’t forget physical. If I’m sitting in an airport, who’s to say someone sitting next to me doesn’t see me type out a message about a bomb, they report me, and I’m getting dragged off the plane no matter what messaging app and encryption I’m using.

    I will not be making jokes about bombs and planes in any format while I’m at the airport in public.

    Byter, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites

    I’d ask why they don’t make it optional (I’m not a Brave user) but it seems it was.

    Another issue is that Strict mode is used by roughly 0.5% of Brave’s users, with the rest using the default setting, which is the Standard mode.

    This low percentage actually makes these users more vulnerable to fingerprinting despite them using the more aggressive blocker, because they constitute a discernible subset of users standing out from the rest.

    Given that, I’m inclined to agree with the decision to remove it. Pick your battles and live to fight another day.

    averyminya,

    So rather than fixing the issue they just removed it entirely.

    That’s kind of a joke from a “privacy” based browser.

    LWD,

    Both points are a bit BS.

    Strict mode is used by roughly 0.5% of Brave’s users

    Based exclusively on whether a user had not gone through the Brave’s browser settings and disabled the “Send statistics about my behavior to the Brave corporate HQ” flag.

    In other words, the number is useless.

    This low percentage actually makes these users more vulnerable to fingerprinting despite them using the more aggressive blocker, because they constitute a discernible subset of users standing out from the rest.

    This argument could be used to tell people to avoid using the Brave browser too. After all, only a minority of people do. The best way to blend in would be to use Google Chrome on Windows 11, and improve no privacy settings.

    Unless someone wants to argue that using Brave makes you an acceptable degree of unique, but using advanced tracking blocking makes you unacceptably unique.

    possiblylinux127, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites

    Honestly you really should be using Firefox.

    umbrella,
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    yes, why are people so allergic to it??

    possiblylinux127,

    The UI is somewhat clunky and it feels half dead.

    I really wish Mozilla would rethink there business.

    umbrella,
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    whats clunky about it??

    a browser is just an address bar and tabs

    possiblylinux127,

    With tons if spacing between everything

    umbrella, (edited )
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    compact mode, in the same place you would change the theme

    i use it for this very reason

    PumaStoleMyBluff,

    Firefox’s resist fingerprinting breaks sites too.

    dditty,

    I have encountered a handful of sites that it broke as well. I use the strict protection option and manually add exceptions to the few sites it breaks - then I never have any other issues with them

    possiblylinux127,

    It doesn’t really break things for me personally. However if it does break something just turn it off.

    Mikina,

    I’ve been having a pretty good experience with Mullvad, however I don’t hear many people talking about it. I wonder why is that, IIRC it’s being developed with Tor Foundation, and is basically a Tor browser for clear web, and that sounds perfect. So far, I didn’t run into any issues, so is there a catch, or are they just not well enough known yet? Or, maybe people are turned away by their optional VPN?

    LWD,

    Probably because LibreWolf is most of the way there, and the Mullvad branding + proprietary VPN is more than a bit much. I use(d) the VPN alongside it and found the add-on “hints” regarding the correct DNS settings more frustrating than helpful, too.

    Mikina, (edited )

    I was using LibreWolf before, but I really like the idea of bundling VPN + Browser, and also the way they handle payments - not only is Mullvad VPN kind of cheap, I can just pay with crypto and don’t need any account (kind of - you just generate username that also serves as an password, without any other contact information required).

    But what I like the most about it is the idea of making a browser with the goal of having the same fingerprint between users (as much as possible), and offering it with a VPN - becuase that means that most of other users of the VPN will probably also have the same fingerprint from the browser, so you will blend in with them. I wasn’t really sold on the idea of VPN before that and didn’t use one, but this was what convinced me.

    But tbh I haven’t done much research into the company, or into the effectivness of their implementation. I’m kind of betting on their cooperation with Tor Browser, which should have most of this stuff already figured out. But it’s possible that other browsers are just better at it, I never checked.

    I do however still use LibreWolf for the occasional site that breaks with Mullvad, but it’s not something that happens too often.

    I use(d) the VPN alongside it and found the add-on “hints” regarding the correct DNS settings more frustrating than helpful, too.

    Hmm, I don’t think I’ve ever noticed anything about DNS. I think I’ve actually never click on the browser vpn extension, though :D Is it the encrypted DNS hint?

    EDIT: Found this, apparently it’s doing pretty well privacytests.org

    const_void, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites

    Brave is shite

    Chais, in Targeted Ads are a Cybersecurity Risk
    @Chais@sh.itjust.works avatar

    All ads are a cybersecurity risk, not just the targeted ones. The targeted ones just offer new and exciting vectors.

    Murdoc,

    I hate ads more than anyone, but how are all ads a cybersecurity risk? Like say just a posted image that says “Buy (product X)”?

    HumanPerson,

    Ever downloaded an app off sourceforge without adblock? You or I may not fall for it but in big companies someone will eventually.

    Chais, (edited )
    @Chais@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m not saying it was always the case. Back when ads were just images hosted on the same machine as the rest of the page they were only annoying.
    But nowadays even so-called acceptable ads are delivered by third-party servers. So suddenly you have to trust not only the operator of the page you’re visiting but also any advertising partners they use. And since all modern advertising uses a gazillion of metrics that necessitates JavaScript you end up executing code that neither you nor the page operator have any actual need for nor influence on, hoping that the ad network has some sort of vetting process so they don’t end up unwittingly delivering malware.
    That’s a tall order in my opinion.

    lemmyreader, in The recent problem of maintaining privacy on the Internet (includes Networking)

    The Snapchat has a word-filter suggestion makes most sense. But then again Cloudflare is very popular on the Internet as the cheap and well-known MITM anti-DDOS tool.

    I haven’t read much about i2p, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the government has their paws in there too.

    You will have to trust something if you want to communicate, there’s also GNUnet, ZeroNet, DeltaChat, and probably a lot more.

    MigratingtoLemmy,

    Ah, I completely missed this. Of course they use Cloudflare, perhaps the biggest MiTM-service on the planet.

    Thanks, this makes a lot of sense

    ZeroHora, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites
    @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

    Another issue is that Strict mode is used by roughly 0.5% of Brave’s users, with the rest using the default setting, which is the Standard mode.

    How are they getting this data? If it’s with telemetry this data doesn’t seem reliable, I doubt that people who change the fingerprint setting don’t disable telemetry.

    Umbrias,

    Alternatively, lol

    YeetPics, in Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    The scam company brave? The one that scams people? With their scam based crypto rewards that don’t pay out? THAT brave?

    LWD,

    There’s no reason to hate Brave unless you have a political bias against their CEO.

    Besides in 2016, when Brave promised to remove banner ads from websites and replace them with their own, basically trying to extract money directly from websites without the consent of their owners

    And when the CEO unilaterally added a fringe, pay-to-win Wikipedia clone into the default search engine list.

    And in 2018, Tom Scott and other creators noticed Brave was soliciting donations in their names without their knowledge or consent.

    And in 2020, when Brave got caught injecting URLs with affiliate codes when users tried browsing to various websites.

    Also in 2020, when they silently started injecting ads into their home page backgrounds, pocketing the revenue. There was a lot of pushback: “the sponsored backgrounds give a bad first impression.” Further requests were ignored (immediately closed)

    And in 2022, when Brave floated the idea of further discouraging users from disabling sponsored messages.

    And in 2023, when Brave got caught installing a paid VPN service on users’ computers without their consent.

    drislands,

    But other than that, there’s no reason!

    shotgun_crab,

    You’re right, no reason at all :)

    moreeni,

    You can dig as much shit on Mozilla. Every big browser company right now is shitty

    Mikina,

    This made me wonder - is there any active Best Of community on any instance? This would be a perfect candidate.

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    I had a small mountain of BAT they locked me out of due to shoddy linking with their banking affiliates and out of date DRM practices locking me out of my account due to too many devices being logged in (each OS update counted as its own device).

    I noticed you didn’t have that linked, that’s because not every shitty move a company makes gets news coverage. Sorry I don’t fit into your narrow view on what constitutes a valid reason.

    LWD,

    If there’s something interesting to add to the list, I’m curious. Brave did partner with a criminal organization currently under a $1.1 billion lawsuit, but I don’t have enough information about your particular case.

    Did the software lock you out or did their servers? Was this reported on anywhere?

    YeetPics,
    @YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

    The banking backend that grifted me is called uphold and at the time that was the ONLY way to move BAT out of their wallet.

    The device limit was a known issue for years and I left before they fixed it.

    While I was still a user I would try their forum for support. Big shocker, LOTS of other users had the same issue and reports got ignored or muted by the mods there.

    drwho, in Ghostery Private Search

    Hmm.

    We’ll see.

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