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slazer2au, in I deleted my google accounts today

Now, send a gpdr deletion request because Google still has your data.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

It’s going to be difficult after deleting the account though

primal_buddhist,

Difficult but legally required by them, including establishing your bona fides.

FarLine99, in I deleted my google accounts today
@FarLine99@lemmy.world avatar

Six months and they will be restored by you, don’t worry 😃

averyfalken,

As someone that does not use a google account I disagree

Fake4000, in I deleted my google accounts today

Would you be able to let us know the services you used, the replacements, and how did the migration process work?

noughtnaut,
@noughtnaut@lemmy.world avatar

Seconded.

Without a single word on replacements for email, calendar, phone, etc… this post is pretty much useless to everyone else than the OP.

averyfalken,

I replaced most of that with proton mail and grapheme is which ironically requires a pixel

rottenwheel,

No sandboxed Google Play services yet? Can be challenging without.

lseif,

not sure if this helps, but i believe using a separate android profile/user is the same as sandboxing, although less convenient

mertn,

See above. Plus I use Thunderbird for calendar.

noughtnaut,
@noughtnaut@lemmy.world avatar

Great, thanks!

How does Thunderbird work for you wrt to sharing calendars with others (eg. family) and syncing with eg. an Outlook calendar?

mertn,

I only use Thunderbird calendar for myself so I don’t know. Proton includes a calendar offering in their package but I have not tried it yet.

mertn, (edited )

Proton for email and cloud storage. Graphenos on a pixel 7a for phone. Phone spps from aurora and fdroid. Kagi.com paid search engine too.

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  • Sproux,

    Protonmail is a free service with an optional subscription for extra features you almost certainly won’t need

    governorkeagan,

    This. I used it for multiple months on the free plan and it worked perfectly.

    Jayb151,

    Does skiff work?

    PropaGandalf, (edited )

    Here are the things I replaced my Google/Microsoft/Meta services with:

    • Tuta(nota): Email
    • Nextcloud: Cloud
    • Typst: LaTeX/Docs alternative
    • LineageOS: Degoogled Android rom
    • Aurora Store: Google Play Store alternative
    • NewPipe, Odysee, Peertube: YouTube alternatives
    • Firefox: Chrome/Chromium alternative
    • SearXNG: Meta search engine
    • Linux/BSD: Windows alternatives
    • Bitwarden: Password manager & 2FA client
    • OpenStreetMaps (OsmAnd): Google maps replacement
    • LibreTranslate, Deepl: Google translate alternative
    • Signal, SimpleX, Briar, Matrix: chat and group organization

    DO NOT FORGET TO MIGRATE ACCOUNTS BEFORE DELETING

    governorkeagan,

    StreetComplete is a great app to help contribute to OpenStreetMaps

    jacktherippah, (edited ) in I deleted my google accounts today

    I can’t wait to graduate college so I can stop using my Google account. I still have to use mine for the online office suite. I use LibreOffice if it’s just me but I have to collaborate and do group assignments on Google Docs and Slides too.

    viking, in Help me choose my mobile browser
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    Fennec (Firefox based), with Ghostery and uBlock origin installed.

    You’ll have to set add-ons up as a private collection for them to work, but it’s easy as pie.

    noodlejetski,
    viking,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    Interesting, I’ll look deeper into that. They have an adblocking engine as well though and catch a few random ones uBlock doesn’t, so I’m not totally convinced they are fully redundant.

    Nyfure,

    You can add lists in ublock..

    viking,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    Yes, and I do, and yet there are still some escapees. Might be a fringe case as I live in Asia, but at least for me it serves a purpose.

    Nyfure, (edited )

    Find the escapees, put them on the list or find a list including them for your particular use-case.
    I dont have much things getting through, mostly small sites displaying things, so i just add a filter myself.

    Afaik Ghostery was bought and started tracking its users.. or was that another popular extension? Happened to alot of these.. pretty sure it was Ghostery?

    viking,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    Right, I’ll look into that. Thanks!

    mintycactus,
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  • Lemongrab,
    @Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

    Just setup links to open in private browsing mode, and clear cookies on browser exit.

    mintycactus,
    @mintycactus@lemmy.world avatar

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  • Lemongrab, (edited )
    @Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

    Nope, you should set up site exception. Site exceptions are much better than just leaving cookies persistent. Cookies both function as a method to track and an easy way for a hacker to steal session tokens. Always prefer the native method, reducing attack surface and providing better function with browser APIs. Read the resource wiki linked from Arkenfox user.js

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Hmm but On FF there are no way to see induvidual site data

    viking,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    You can delete cookies and data on a per-site basis, and advanced tracking protection prevents any nefarious websites from exploiting your browser. That’s all I care for.

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    In firefox android, I dont see any way to delete cookie+site data per site basis. Are u talking about chromium?

    Lemongrab,
    @Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

    Cookies are partitioned in Firefox strict mode IIRC.

    viking,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    No, I’m talking about Firefox. Fennec, that is, but the key functions are all the same.

    It’s not in the settings however, you need to open the site in question and press the lock icon in the address bar next to the URL, the context menu there allows to delete cookies and site specific data.

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Thanks a lot setup complete, Thanks to all on thread

    Pantherina,

    Addons

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Hmm but I dont see anyone working the way I want. Can u explain which addon to use? And how to use them?

    Pantherina,

    Ghostery sends like every website you visit to their servers. Its opt-out and Ublock origin is better anyways. Firefox really has a problem of not marking bad addons

    GrappleHat,
    @GrappleHat@lemmy.ml avatar
    • Mull is similar to Fennec except with some privacy tweaks. Generally Mull is better.
    • You don’t need Ghostery anymore
    Lemongrab, (edited )
    @Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

    Mull works the same as Fennec, except it is hardended with patches from Tor and Arkenfox user.js. No real reason IMO to use fennec over Mull, whose developers also contribute to Fennec. Ghostery also changes your fingerprint, acting as one more data point. Mull has a whole bunch of configured flags to reduce fingerprinting, and many more to help with security (like disabling JIT).

    Check here for some comparisons:

    divestos.org/pages/browsers

    privacytests.org

    viking, (edited )
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    Following the pro-Mull comments here I’ve given it a try for a solid 48h, and just reverted back to Fennec. Mull is simply restricting the user experience too much, and I’m not willing to make the sacrifice.

    My biggest annoyances:

    1. Websites don’t get information about dark mode from my device and revert back to light mode by default.
    2. Websites don’t get information about the system time on my phone and deliver content based on GMT+0.
    3. Some websites get wrong (or none?) information about the screen resolution and are unusable.

    I’m aware that those details are suppressed to avoid fingerprinting, and while I believe that the intention is good, it makes using my phone more cumbersome, and that’s not something I’m willing to do. So my choices at this point are basically to keep using Mull and deactivate the advanced fingerprinting protection, or use Fennec as before.

    Lemongrab,
    @Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

    Firefox resistant fingerprinting does the first 2 things, the last one is mobile partial letterboxing. All are anti fingerprinting techniques, but i understand how they may be restrictive. Maybe just add dark reader to have dark mode forced on websites, which technically can be fingerprinted but has a large userbase so idk.

    Fake4000, in Help me choose my mobile browser

    I would say go with either chromite or firefox. Both are private, supported for now, and can block ads (UBO on firefox)

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    U did not readed it I want some extensionised version of cromite or site data in firefox

    tarneo, in Help me choose my mobile browser
    @tarneo@lemmy.ml avatar

    I use Iceraven with ublock, privacy badger, decentraleyes and canvasblocker.

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    But I want to know site data saved on my device,Any way!

    Pantherina,

    Cookie quick manager on Mull.

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Cookie is not only form of data saved?

    Pantherina,

    Forgetmenot can handle all data

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    But cant remove all.

    pylapp, in Help me choose my mobile browser
    @pylapp@programming.dev avatar

    Why not using Firefox, Firefox Focus or Brave?

    Lemongrab,
    @Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

    Because Mull is hardened Firefox without telemetry. Brave is Chromium based and the company is shady.

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    U did not readed it well. As firefox on android do not have sandboxing and segregation things It cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc. Firefox due to same reason cannot tell about WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE.I need to know that info so I am asking for any solution but as per what I know there are no solutions

    Sorry for poor english

    koper,

    The uMatrix add-on for Firefox seems to do what you want.

    Pantherina,

    Discontinued

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Thanks, will try

    Pantherina,

    This makes no sense. Firefox with noscript and “forgetmenot” can selectively allow Javascript per domain, and to save cookies.

    This cookie quick manager is probably an extension you want.

    addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/…/Fenix-Addons/

    This is a custom addon collection, I will add cookie quick manager if its missing

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Thanks this is exact thing I was looking for. A bit more explanation

    Pantherina,

    Use noscript and ublock to control what gets to your browser and what gets executed there. Noscript is so underrated, its literally the best way to remove tracking. All these superficial blockers cant reach manual opt-in for javascript, selected by origin.

    Forgetmenot replaces firefox desktop functionality, but does even more.

    https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/1f02302b-7089-4536-8841-62af8b847f8c.png

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Hmm but as in screenshot U cant remove all types of data as platform limitation.

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Out of context but do u use ff sync or not?

    Pantherina,

    Yes its great. Biggest reason why Chromium is not an option, apart from UserChrome.css, user.js, many addons and an addon store not by google not requiring an account

    WindowsEnjoyer,

    cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc.

    Don’t you think there is a reason why none of browsers provide this feature? Do you seriously want to open a website and be greeted with 30 pop ups asking “do you want to allow javascript on api.example.com website?”. Then instantly “do you want to allow loading static images/media on api.example.com website?”. Point is - it’s not how web works.

    WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE

    Imagine in your perfect world you get a pop up saying “Firefox has detected that example.com has saved 2 cookies on your device and they consume 43 bytes of your storage space. Do you want to delete them?”. Again, even if it saves cached data (static images) - why would you care? Firefox has addons that can help you to get rid of tracking cookies.

    Please learn on how internet works. There is no such thing as “website”, especially in your context. Technically, your requested features could be possible to implement, but that would break like 100℅ of websites. And what you are probably looking for is something like Postman, but for Android. 🙆

    Jajcus,

    But all this is available in desktop Firefox. Partially built-in, partially via add-ons. The mobile version is very limited.

    Pantherina,

    Noscript does exactly that. Poorly there is no exception to allow x origin only on y domain. But yeah, its supported very well

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    *Don’t you think there is a reason why none of browsers provide this feature?*Cromite does provide it I am writing this reply from it and only some website have js enabled like lemmy instance I use,masto etc. Rest open without it and if something breaks I change settings for it. But I dont hate js, its fine and I was just explaining how I want things to happen. *Firefox has detected that example.com has saved 2 cookies … * I was not saying that but as in chromium or in ff desktop u can check which site have saved what data in settings I just want something like that (Nobody wants that much interupping popups) *that would break like 100℅ of websites.*Chrome does it and everything works

    mintycactus, (edited )
    @mintycactus@lemmy.world avatar

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  • itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    I tried some addons and probably cookie is not only form of data. As I was loggined on piped.video but there were no cookie showing in quick cookie manager I also used cookie auto delete and piped data was not deleted. I dont have technical details but in an addon (Name was probably something like forget forever) which claim to delete all site data. There were about 10 types of data listed including cookie,IndexDb,Session storage etc. That extension was also not able to remove that data (Was showing not available on your platform).

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Btw Xbrowser sync will function same as brave sync? Anonymous!

    java,

    How? It’s not on F-Droid. Play store is obviously not an option for a person, who cares about privacy.

    Catsrules,

    Why not go directly to the source?

    github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/releases

    java,

    Imagine you have lots of toys, like your favorite games and cool apps on your tablet or phone. If you had to update them manually, it’s like having to go to each toy, take it apart, fix anything that’s broken, and then put it back together every time there’s a new version or improvement.

    Now, think about having a special toy store for your toys. When you go to the store, they already know about any new cool features or fixes for your toys. All you have to do is ask the store to update your toys, and they make sure all your toys get the latest and greatest stuff without you having to do anything.

    So, having a store for apps is like having a magical place where all your toys can be fixed and improved automatically, without you having to do the hard work of updating each one by yourself. It saves you time and makes sure your toys are always the best they can be!

    Catsrules,

    Yeah, you loose auto updates but just saying there is a way if you don’t want to use other options.

    SatyrSack,

    Obtainium is your magical toy store

    github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium

    java,

    I’m glad that wizards keep pushing boundaries of magic.

    moreeni, in Help me choose my mobile browser
    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Second article says gecko browser do have site data isolation.Is there any way I can know Indivudual site data saved on my device

    Devjavu,

    You are aware that they do not need to save the data to your device to track you, right?

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Ya I know and I dont want complete anonymity either.

    Devjavu,

    Alright, just checking.

    Imprint9816, (edited ) in Privacy benefits of Custom roms

    Just remember there is a balance between security and privacy that these types of communities forget and typically greatly increase the attack surface of their devices for minimal privacy gains.

    This is why, in general, giving special access to your phone with privileged apps (Google Play, Micro G) or severely reducing the security of the phone by rooting it is almost always something you should avoid.

    Omega_Haxors, (edited ) in I deleted my google accounts today

    I’m considering it. Youtube just removed a comment of mine calling an elon simp a cracker for “harassment”

    Really it’s just about the last straw, they passively protect billionaires but will let outright hate speech stay up. They also advertise nazis.

    letsgo, (edited )

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  • queermunist,
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    No, cracker, you are not the victim of racism.

    Omega_Haxors, (edited )

    Would you prefer I call you a gringo, then?

    Jokes aside, Youtube doesn’t consider cracker to be a slur (because it’s not) I didn’t break the rule for Hate Speech I broke the rule for Harassment because I was mean to a billionaire. This is a repeated behavior on the site, where they’ll peckerwood for rich people.

    jacktherippah, (edited ) in Privacy benefits of Custom roms

    Pixel Experience has zero advantage for your privacy. LineageOS really doesn’t do much to protect your privacy (or security). That’s hardly surprising since privacy&security was never the goal of LineageOS to begin with. The only things Lineage will do for your privacy is 1. Remove Google Play Services 2. Remove your OEM’s built in tracking. Installing Google Play Services will negate 1. If you are serious about your privacy and is willing to make sacrifices, your best option would be GrapheneOS, followed by DivestOS. The latter supports many of the devices supported by LineageOS, so check if your device has support.

    Sentau,

    My device doesn’t have support for graphene or Divest unfortunately. Which is why I made this post. I am guessing that lack of Google play and Google location services alone would be a massive improvement for my privacy.

    Outtatime, in Help me choose my mobile browser
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Any popular browser in incognito mode with a VPN?

    plague_sapiens,
    @plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

    No browser has a VPN function, it’s just a proxy. You can use sth like Bitmask for a free VPN. Calyx Institute and RiseUP provide some free servers too.

    Devjavu,

    “Any popular browser in incognito mode” is probably the worst advice I’ve ever heard.

    www.skeletonclaw.com/image/710734055173472257

    Outtatime,
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Well fuck me then

    Devjavu,

    Hey man didn’t mean to make you feel down. Incognito mode is just the wrong tool for the job.

    Outtatime, (edited )
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I pair it with a paid VPN. Why isn’t it good enough?

    Devjavu,

    Well to cut it short, Incognito mode often just means that your own device will not remember anything. Meaning your keyboard does not log your keystrokes, your browser does not save your searches etc. Even if this was compeletely true 100% of the time (which it is not, example, you copy or download something), then the websites you visit would still have your device’s fingerprint, so a VPN connection won’t do much. It is better to use a privacy-oriented browser like Mull. If you want to, you can add incognito mode ON TOP, which on Firefox and therefore Mull is called private browsing mode. Do keep in mind, that it is hard enough to have a non-unique fingerprint. This only gets amplified on mobile devices, at least speaking for Android. IOS is out of the window by default lmao.

    Outtatime, (edited )
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    😂 you’re telling me that by using proton plus VPN with, say, Firefox in private mode, websites still know who I am? I’m not logged into anything. They don’t know anything.

    Devjavu,

    Yes. They do. Not by name, but by your fingerprint.

    Outtatime,
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    They can see my fingers? I dunno know about that

    Devjavu,

    You know, I don’t know if you are trying to be annoying or if you truly do not know. Here is a wikipedia link for topic of device fingerprints: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_fingerprint

    Here is the Tor project’s take on it: blog.torproject.org/browser-fingerprinting-introd…

    And here is an overview of the browsers which are best at preventing fingerprinting for desktop: www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/

    The privacyguides website is generally a good resource. Sometimes, rarely, lacks a little behind in the latest and greatest. It’s not primarily a site for news anyways.

    One part of your browser’s fingerprint that I find quite interesting and is easy to understand is it’s resolution. Your browser displays websites in a set resolution, say 1080x1920. This resolution is dependent of your screen’s resolution, the window size of the browser and generally everything that changes the shape anf size of the website. Firefox does not protect here, old man.

    Outtatime,
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    😂 So you attempt to help me understand and then call me an old man? I was pretty interested in this. Now I know your information is bullshit.

    Devjavu,

    And yes, this time I do mean to make you feel down.

    Devjavu,

    You were not interested in anything. All you were doing was play down everything I said. Too bad you got by far the most downvotes. The only ones I got seem to be from you, as their count never exceed one. So unless everybody in this community who has voted on our exchange is unknowledgeably, you are so. Furthermore, this is not my information. This is exactly the reason why I pulled up sources, because I just knew a grumpy old dude like you would not dare to take someone else seriously. If you do not trust the tor project on the topic of privacy inside a browser, you truly are not to be taken seriously. What they say is not only likely true but also closely monitored by hunderds if not thousands of security experts. I gave you all the informwtion you need, yet you keep your ignorance and arrogance. What do you want me to call you, a man of class? Clearly not, old man. If you think you can play me by my emotions, go ahead and try again. You’re not gonna get far. Hope your family doesn’t have to put up with you for too long anymore.

    Outtatime,
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Quiet, spoiled brat. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Devjavu,

    I am a Developer and have worked in IT for several years. I know very much what I am talking about. And I can not be spoiled if I live alone.

    Outtatime,
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    You’re a real expert

    Devjavu,

    Also, just because a VPN is paid for does not mean it is secure. Look into Mullvad and as a second option Proton VPN, if you have not already.

    Outtatime,
    @Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I have proton plus. What’s wrong with incognito mode and unlock origin??? I’ve been doing this for years. I’ve had no issues

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Opera

    Sanchokan, in Help me choose my mobile browser

    Bromite

    Pantherina,

    Not developed anymore and insecure!

    pec,
    @pec@lemmy.ml avatar

    use cromite instead

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    Ya but sync?

    Norgur, in Help me choose my mobile browser

    I think you might try to bite off more than you can chew here. You keep insisting that you want to somehow see the data that's saved on your device. Why exactly do you want to inspect the local cache of those sites? What do you expect the benefit to be? And what's more: what do you expect such a local cache to look like?

    itsaj26744,
    @itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

    I just want to know which site I am logged in and to remove those data in order to logout

    Like on desktop I remove all data from settings of firefox from sites I am not using. Hope I a clear to you

    Btw I want to have clear look that data just as on desktop but as addons will provide that data I think It is going to look bad But thats okay

    Norgur,

    Yeah, okay. So: Clearing Browser cache is a common feature in any webbrowser (even Chrome, and if Chrome has it, everyone has)

    Regarding insights into the local cache: Are you technically versed enough to understand what you are seeing? If not, what good would looking at the cache do to you? I mean, whatever is in that cache is no indication about your privacy at all. As @minitycactus found out, Wikipedia logs your last visit. Do they spy on you? Very probably not. Besides, whatever they put into local cache is not something they have on their servers,

    I wouldn't put too much energy into a search for that specific feature.

    mintycactus, (edited )
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  • itsaj26744,
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    Nice but cookie is not only form of saved data

    auf,

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