Chakravanti,

You may have nothing to hide today but if you can’t defend yourself tomorrow, they will kill you and your entire family.

Engywuck,

I say nothing. Not my businesses. Their data. their choice. Why should I criticize their decision?

Ilandar,

Pretty much. Do your thing, talk to people about it if they seem genuinely interested but definitely don’t go around trying to convince people that they need to take their digital privacy more seriously. They will view you as annoying and/or a lunatic and become permanently turned off to the concept. The hard sell isn’t anywhere near as effective as some people think.

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I take out a pad and pen, “what’s your bank credentials? Also, your [social media] credentials? I won’t use it against you. Promise. … No? I thought you have nothing to hide?” I put the pad away, and hold out my hand, “let me see you phone. I want to look through your pictures and internet history. … No again? Huh. I guess you do care about privacy.”

LazyPhilosopher,

“Sweet let me see your search history. I’ve always been curious what your taste in porn is”

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“Do you like anal?”

I bet a lot of people would suddenly have something to hide.

penquin,
@penquin@lemmy.kde.social avatar

“well, let me come over to your house uninvited and walk around the rooms looking through your personal belongings”.

bionicjoey,

“Okay, then hand me your phone unlocked and give me as much time as I want to poke around your browser history, files, and photos.”

fakeman_pretendname,

Depends on the person, but sometimes things such as:

“Is there anything you do, watch, listen to, say or have done in the past, which is currently illegal in another country?”

“Did you see how in the US, some states have just recently made abortion illegal, and in others, you can get in trouble with the police for wearing clothes which they don’t think match your birth gender? Both things were perfectly legal a few years ago”

“Imagine it’s 2024 and mandateless unelected UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak says model railways are offensive to motorists, so they’ve banned them”

“Do you think Facebook’s going to defend your privacy when the government makes model railways illegal, Dad?” :P

AnxiousDuck,

“Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” - Edward Snowden

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

Iapar,

“Unlock your phone and give it to me”

MNLFNUT8YG,

Look at this website. It’s in Dutch, so you might need some translation. decorrespondent.nl/…/23fc6e9d-f667-0377-1675-7b5e…

bbbhltz, (edited )
@bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

I have a friend / colleague who was a bit like this. It is a “see it to believe” situation. For her it was when she was at work and she watched her mouse stat moving on its own.

When she thought about how she never did anything bad on her work computer, but sometimes accessed her personal email… She got it.

And now she pays closer attention to things. Like in our city you’re pinged via WiFi when you get on a bus, but you can opt-out or jut turn of your WiFi, so she does that. And she makes email aliases now too. Nothing too serious, mind you, but she is 50 and figuring this out on her own and then teaching her friends and colleagues about it which is way better than going down the rabbit hole. Now there’s a bunch of boomers refusing to use Teams or access work email on their personal devices because she explained that they do have things to hide: the names and ages of their children and grandchildren, where they go for drinks after work, what they watch on YT, etc.

I don’t get into it with people though. People just write me off as some nerd, which is not the case.

HumanPerson,

Ask to watch them pee. When they say no, ask what they do when they pee that they don’t want you to know about; that is the only reason they could want privacy, right?

VerseAndVermin,

Ask to watch them pee.

You went weird real quick.

WhatAmLemmy,

Ask them to install a camera in their bathroom, and every room of their house.

After all, if they’ve got nothing to hide, they’ve got nothing to fear!

ritchie,
@ritchie@lemmy.world avatar

I always ask if they have a curtain. Why have one, when you have nothing to hide? It blocks the view, sunlight…

Tar_alcaran,

That’s a weird question. My curtains make sure I don’t wake up at 5.30am in the summer.

itsprobablyfine,

Well if you live in a democracy you should. It’s not about your data alone, its everyone else’s. It’s social media company XYZ determining how each individual is going to vote, then, on election day sending all people on one side get out and vote messages, and sending people on the other side a tsunami of unrelated bs to make sure they don’t know about the election. Or push a bunch of fakenews to make them feel both sides are the same and why even vote?

Do this in a couple key areas and you only need to hit a few tens of thousands of people to turn a presidential race.

We know it can be done because it already has been. If you live in a democracy you should care a good deal about privacy, even if you somehow have nothing to hide

PupBiru,
@PupBiru@kbin.social avatar

a healthy democracy requires others to have privacy. people like investigative journalists need to be able to blend in with the crowd and expose government wrongdoing

blending in the the crowd is the important part: if everyone cares about privacy, nobody sticks out for caring about privacy… but if nobody cares about privacy, the investigative journalist suddenly looks really obvious and can be targeted much more easily

if someone doesn’t think they have anything to hide, that’s fine (wrong, but fine) however they can help to make sure the government acts appropriately simply by not splashing data around everywhere for all to see

cheese_greater, (edited )

Ok Mr. Trump, good deal. Yeh talked me into it

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