fhqwgads, (edited ) Maybe I’m behind on my terms but does this count as a dark pattern?
It was my understanding that dark patterns are a thing designed to use a service in a way that they wouldn’t normally intend to, like renew a subscription or leave privacy options to the benefit of the company instead of the user.
This just seems like a scam, or at best highly deceptive advertising? Like, for it to be a dark pattern it would have to actually be able to send you to some android update system, but it almost certainly isn’t ever going to do that.
golden_zealot, I suppose that is correct per the definition, thanks for the correction.
KarnaSubarna, (edited ) Lemmy website does provide official PWA app.
On iOS: Safari > Lemmy website > Hit share button > Add to home screen. On android, I assume steps will be similar.
I wholeheartedly recommend PWA app as such is published by the publisher of website itself, and I don’t need to download it either from official or 3rd party store.
In case you don’t know, PWA is basically a web app, running using your browser engine, which has almost same look-n-feel of native app.
Thermal_shocked, DNS adblocking. I don’t see those ads.
AlexisFR, Unfortunately this break LTE internet.
currawong, It should not. Some phones don’t play well with private DNS though, mostly entry level ones that thrives on spying.
Thermal_shocked, What phone? Never had an issue with private DNS on Android. Unfortunately IOS requires it setup on every connection, but works.
adguard-dns.io/en/public-dns.html
youtu.be/ovqRt_qGV7c?si=iMxKS_tMMyKJV6ie
Make sure you restart the app after applying settings, should pickup new DNS and poof, 95% of ads are gone instantly.
ModsAreCopsACAB, I’m using Blokada. Would you consider Adguard to be better? And if so could you explain why? I’m not sure I see the difference.
AlexisFR, It’s on a Fairphone 3 on Android 13. On Wi-Fi Private DNS works perfectly, but as soon as I switch to 4G the internet connection don’t work anymore. As soon as I reset the private DNS to default it works as intended again. That’s seems to be a carrier issue.
scottywh, Definitely sounds carrier related… Works fine for me on Android with TMO
wreckedcarzz, Same, Pixel 8 Pro + GrapheneOS + NextDNS, stateside using AT&T, no problems with private DNS
Dehydrated, Your carrier probably blocks the DNS. Use a VPN, Proton VPN is trustworthy and reputable and they have a free option.
k0mprssd, connect is never mentioned enough in threads like these
AlexisFR, It hasn’t been updated in a while, and it’s behavior when you post is quite bad when it reset all the view.
No to get into the refresh issues, too.
moitoi, I updated it just a couple of minutes ago.
Zoot, Its gotten like three updates in the last month. I will agree the refresh issue is annoying.
The developer has done a fine job at adding requested features, and fixing most bugs that come up as long as you let them know.
Unforeseen, (edited ) It’s updated very regularly on the beta branch.
Suoko, I agree, it’s perfect, except for the side menu which could be nicer, but in the end you almost never use it so it’s ok
BeerMedic, I use it. Very similar to boost. I loved boost for reddit.
However, my experience with this boost has had a few quirks that I don’t like:
- Hard to tell what instance you’re on in the side bar
- My inbox won’t clear when tapping the double check icon
imkali, (edited ) Jerboa (FOSS. Play Store + F-Droid)
Voyager (FOSS. Play Store + F-Droid + PWA + iOS App Store)
Thunder (FOSS. Play Store + IzzyOnDroid + iOS App Store)
Eternity (FOSS. Play Store + F-Droid)
edit: formatting
Klear, I need to do another round of trying everything. Currently using Liftoff and happy with it, but I should check out the alternatives anyway.
patawan, Voyager is so good! Basically a drop in replacement for Apollo.
wreckedcarzz, As a user of RedReader since launch a decade+ ago, I dig Thunder. Simple, no bullshit, logical settings.
southernwolf, 10/10 for Voyager, with a shout-out to Eternity too!
pacjo, (edited ) Eternity is great and there’s a work in progress to add multicommunity support.
Also just like Infinity enabling amoled theme makes it look a whole lot more modern.
JustEnoughDucks, The only thing it is missing for me is community search. It is great! Also the most customizable of the bunch in my opinion
soviettaters, Jerboa’s great
SheeEttin, I use Boost and I like it. But I gave the dev the few bucks for ad-free.
If there’s a malicious ad, report it to the dev. I’m pretty sure they can ban it.
OminousOrange, (edited ) I like Boost too. And it’s only a one-time payment for ad-free too, unlike Sync.
andthenthreemore, Sync is a one time payment for ad-free. It’s ultra that is subscription which has a load of bumph you don’t need and ad-free as well.
OminousOrange, Ah, thanks for clarifying.
daftwerder, Eternity is great! free, no ads, and no lag while scrolling. it also supports swipe to go back from posts.
Rez, I’m so used to navigating in Eternity at this point that all other apps seem clunky and unintuitive
Oha, same
ryannathans, Jerboa works well
baatliwala, Does it? I moved to Boost because I can’t load past one page in Jerboa when viewing a community.
ryannathans, I recall that was a bug for a couple days and only on some sort modes when some instances upgraded to v19 and were shitting errors everywhere. All fixed now
sag, Yep, It work pretty well. Only Lemmy client I ever use
LemoineFairclough, Why would you need an app when an account settings page and a web interface for posts exist? What need is that combination not meeting for you?
Thorny_Insight, I don’t undestand the need to have an app for stuff that works just fine on browser. In my books less apps is always better. The desktop and mobile version of Lemmy on browser gets the job done perfectly and is way more polished looking aswell.
InEnduringGrowStrong, Yup, lemmy works fine in a browser.
Also basically no apps support mod and admin actions or do it weird.
I’ll say that DMs could be a bit better in the browser, but otherwise it’s fine.
thisfro, Mobile browsers suck imho. Everything has to reload all the time, no good notifications, it’s slow etc
pineapplelover, The dev has to do what they have to do to feed themselves. If you really like the app, deal with the ads or pay for the app. I personally can’t deal with ads so I’m on Eternity for Lemmy (through the fdroid store)
ono, I start with whatever is on F-Droid, and narrow it down from there.
Jerboa was the only option there until recently. I see Voyager and Eternity are there now. I’ll have to give them a try.
WeLoveCastingSpellz, thunder is awesome too
refurbishedrefurbisher, Eternity FTW
schizoidman, Voyager is currently many versions ahead of the one listed on F-Droid. It is still usable but you may want to get the latest version from GitHub.
ono, If new versions don’t make it to F-Droid, they might as well not exist for me. There are only a couple of apps that I find important enough that I’ll spend time manually building/pulling/installing, and a Lemmy reader isn’t one of them. Thanks for the tip, though.
carzian, Have you considered using github.com/imranr98/obtainiumYou give it the repository of the app and it will handle checking for new versions and updating them
ono, Part of what I value in F-Droid is the additional layer in the build/release process, because it makes tampering more likely to be detected.
It’s still nice to know a tool like obtanium exists, though. Thanks for the link.
jacktherippah, This is exactly the reason why I don’t like F-Droid as a way to get apps. You’ll have to trust an additional party when getting your apps, and updates are often a couple days behind. I prefer to get it straight from the developer’s GitHub or Coderberg or whatever.
ono, (edited ) You’ll have to trust an additional party when getting your apps, and updates are often a couple days behind.
I know how it works, and in this case, that’s fine with me.
F-Droid has an excellent track record; better than many developers have. And I’m not addicted to having the latest versions of everything on the day they’re released. In fact, not immediately jumping on the latest versions has saved me from nasty bugs more than once.
FutileRecipe, Part of what I value in F-Droid is the additional layer in the build/release process, because it makes tampering more likely to be detected.
Barely and not really. “F-Droid can’t ensure the apps are safe. You still need to trust the upstream developers. We only do some basic check.” forum.f-droid.org/t/…/2
ono, N + 1 > N
FutileRecipe, N + X - Y ? N
Except now you’re adding an additional party to trust (the -Y). So it could still be considered less secure than N.
ono, So it could still be considered less secure than N.
It could be, or it could not be. Depends on the particulars, and on the needs of the individual.
Mind, I’m not going around presuming to tell other people what’s better for them, as one or two others in this thread are doing. I’m just stating what’s a good fit for me.
FutileRecipe, Depends on the particulars, and on the needs of the individual.
That’s not really how things like security works. It’s either more secure or it’s not. The security of a thing does not depend on needs. Now, does the application of it or does someone need it to be more secure? That’s where risk acceptance and the needs of the individual come into play.
I’m not going around presuming to tell other people what’s better for them, as one or two others in this thread are doing.
Same. I’m not saying “stop doing this.” I’m just trying to educate people and make sure they’re not operating with a misunderstanding. Needs of the individual and all that. I think some people just go crazy for something that’s not big tech, and then quit looking at the particulars.
ono, Depends on the particulars, and on the needs of the individual.
That’s not really how things like security works.
If that were true, threat modeling wouldn’t exist. ;)
I think some people just go crazy for something that’s not big tech, and then quit looking at the particulars.
I expect that’s probably true. It’s safe to assume I’m not one of them, though. Cheers.
FutileRecipe, (edited ) If that were true, threat modeling wouldn’t exist.
I feel like we’re talking about different things. I’m talking about static concepts, if X is more secure than Y, not individual setups where something is tweaked. Threat modeling is tailoring the security to your needs. It doesn’t bend security of a static object or make the application of something less than what it is. It requires one’s actions to do that by not utilizing it.
Take bullet proof glass, for example. Bullet proof glass is more secure than regular glass. Now, do you need (does your threat model require) bullet proof glass? No? Ok, that doesn’t mean bullet proof is now less secure than regular glass, it’s just unneeded.
FutileRecipe, I’m not sure why people insist on F-Droid, considering the F-Droid Security Issues.
ono, I use it because, contrary to what that scare piece you linked would have the reader believe, it’s better for my needs than the alternatives.
(I’m no stranger to software development and security, by the way. I understand the pros and cons.)
FutileRecipe, that scare piece you linked would have the reader believe
So an indepth and critical analysis of something is now a “scare piece?” Ok.
MrJameGumb, I have Boost, but I haven’t seen any ads like that before. The main one I use is Jerboa though.
RyanUrq1328,
steal_your_face, Voyager the 🐐no 🧢
HumanPerson, Eternity. It was a FOSS Reddit client before the API stuff but they became a Lemmy client.
SatyrSack, Maybe pedantic, but it’s a totally different developer that took the Infinity for Reddit source code and forked it into Eternity for Lemmy. The Infinity dev was not interested.
Neato, Wait, Boost has ads? I’ve literally never seen an ad.
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