free,

Hey op, how did u get that screenshot? My gplay didn’t have the new tags ‘new’ 😥 0x0.st/H0pq.png

reactive_recall,

Interesting, maybe it’s because of the phone. I’m using pixel 6a with GrapheneOS

free,

Lol me too, I swear. Thanks for reply . I’m in the land of oz. So I assume ur in america. Different laws Im gonna assume.

Moonrise2473,

I’m really curious about the amount of money exchanged. It must have been an enormous amount in order to do a “I’d even sell my mom for that” and don’t feel dirty

ExLisper,

There were multiple reports about sleazy companies reaching out to developers of popular apps and Chrome addons and offering them money for their accounts. The money is really good but there’s still a lot of devs that can say ‘no’. They will just use to track some people, it’s not a completely new business that will grow and earn them money like Instagram or something.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

the developer, and this isnt exaggeration, does not understand gpl v3. he literally got confused when people told him he had no right to sell contributed code. you can see for yourself in the github discussions

ExLisper,

I’m pretty sure what he sold was not the code but access to this play store account so that the new owner can push updated version to his current users.

barryamelton,

You can sell GPL code. Even if you aren’t the author. What you must do is share the code with those customers though.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

you cant sell othwrs ans then close source which is what they did to my knowledge

boyi,

Open source can be sold/commercialised. I think you’re confusing between FOSS and open source.

labbbb,

FOSS and open source is the same thing

barryamelton,

You perfectly can sell GPL code. And you can double-license yourself (provided that you are the copyright holder) as GPL and a privative license. A lot of companies do that, legally and correctly.

jherazob,
@jherazob@beehaw.org avatar

Tibor betrayed us and sold the Simple Apps suite to a sleazy adtech company a while ago, there were multiple posts on this suggesting replacements, then one of the most active devs forked it into Fossify, removing all the branding and references to the original, work is still ongoing on this, already some of the apps have been rereleased, here’s a handy matrix of the progress on the rerelease from somebody on Github

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Wow, I never heard of that before. Is there any replacement for simple gallery, before they screw with it?

winkerjadams,

Did you click on the link in the comment you replied to?

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Honestly no, since it was talking about the SMS messenger. I’ll have a look then.

DeadNinja,
@DeadNinja@lemmy.world avatar

They were sold to ZippoApps, who specializes in adding crapware to apps.

What else would we expect anyway…

rolandtb303,
@rolandtb303@lemmy.ml avatar

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  • dubyakay,

    No. No it doesn’t. Israel might be a shitty country built on apartheid and illegal settlements, and netanyahoo might be genociding Gaza via IDF, but that doesn’t mean every individual should be regarded with a blanket statement.

    But fuck ZippoApps anyway.

    labbbb, (edited )

    This BS about “genociding” Gaza again… do you like HAMAS terrorists?

    greybeard,

    If we judged citizens based on what their government does, I don’t think many of us would come out clean. As an American, I don’t want the whole world thinking that I agree with what the Feds are up to all the time. I recommend extending that same courtesy to people in countries who’s government you don’t like as well.

    Amaltheamannen,

    Shouldn’t judge their citizens, but should sanction and boycott their companies.

    moon,

    Oof, those permissions alone scream proprietary spyware. There’s no more speculation here, it has officially become enshittified.

    mnglw,

    that’s because that’s what happened. Simple mobile tools got bought out by a company known for exactly that: putting ads and spyware in apps

    thankfully since its open source, there’s already a fork in the works called Fossify

    labbbb,

    That’s why I love open source

    yamanii,
    @yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

    Will this be pushed to the F-droid version? Only downloaded from there.

    amnesiac,
    @amnesiac@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t think so but might be though.

    TechieDamien,

    Can’t include any proprietary code, so using the google sdk would invalidate it I believe.

    Darken,
    @Darken@reddthat.com avatar

    I believe fdroid + google services = nono

    So we are safe on fdroid

    antonim, (edited )

    It seems F-droid won’t accept the new versions, as the Suite has been acquired over a month ago and they haven’t accepted any new versions, all Simple apps I’ve checked haven’t been updated for 3-4 months; in fact, I can’t find Simple Gallery there anymore at all.

    The ads are probably against F-droid’s TOS.

    Banana_man,

    I found simple gallery though. It even showed me that I had it installed as it should.

    antonim,

    Huh, perhaps the problem is on my end then? But I can neither find it by searching the repository, nor is it on the list of my installed F-Droid apps, even though all the other Simple apps are there. And I’m 100% certain I’m not using the Play Store version.

    Banana_man,

    I’m not sure, it seems others can’t find it either. My own simple gallery works fine and without the new stuff everyone is complaining about here (I got it from f droid, so that’s why). Maybe it’s because it can’t take down the page for a downloaded app?

    antonim, (edited )

    Simple Gallery hasn’t and couldn’t have received the privacy-intruding update yet, as its last update was in October, according to the data on Play Store, i.e. before the acquisition. People are complaining about Simple Messenger, for now.

    My own install of Gallery is from F-Droid, just as yours, yet I don’t see it there anymore. It’s not visible on the F-Droid website, unlike e.g. f-droid.org/en/…/com.simplemobiletools.keyboard/

    Maybe you can see it if you’re using some repository other then the default one? Or your repository data hasn’t been updated recently? Idk, just guessing.

    Banana_man,

    I suppose we shall never know. F droid and all apps are up to date for me, so it’s not that… I am not tech savvy enough to find out lol.

    lesnake,

    They probably removed gallery since fossify galery is on fdroid now

    ArcaneSlime,

    Shit, anyone have a good calendar on fdroid?

    LoveSausage,

    Etar on f-droid

    ParetoOptimalDev,

    etar maybe?

    ArcaneSlime,

    I’ll check it out, thanks! I’m on fossify for now.

    noodlejetski,

    Fossify Calendar, which is a fork of Simple.

    merde,

    export settings and events from simple calendar, import settings and events to fossify and voilà.

    ArcaneSlime,

    I already had em in an ics from recently switching phones lol.

    ipkpjersi,

    “have full network access” BIG YIKES

    eluvatar,

    I mean it makes sense for error reporting. Lots of apps automatically report errors so that they can be detected easily, which would require internet access.

    cupcakezealot,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    that kinda makes me think google should to a log retrieval and storage api which can retrieve and send logs to developers.

    redline23,

    That just allows Google full access to all logs from any application you have installed.

    That service is not free either per month and those costs will be passed to the consumer in either a subscription or worse software.

    cupcakezealot,
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    i mean google would have it anyway; and the app developer would be collecting the logs any way so the cost would be there already. this would just make it so they wouldn’t need to request full network access; just enough to get the logs.

    LoremIpsumGenerator,

    Play store version is already infected. There was a buyout of SMT apps.

    user224, (edited )
    @user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Oh, I see. They even stopped sponsoring Linux Mint, which is how I found SMT.

    Edit: They used to be a gold sponsor: web.archive.org/web/…/sponsors.php
    Which means $1,000/month.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    how could smt afford to donaye 1000 a month???

    antonim, (edited )

    Damn, how did I even manage to miss that Simple apps have been bought off? I’ve used them for years and am still subscribed to the reddit community…

    Some people suggest the action could possibly be deemed illegal, by breaking the licence the project was made under.

    github.com/SimpleMobileTools/…/241#issuecomment-1… - the dev’s explanation, and replies which discuss the legal issues

    old.reddit.com/…/simple_mobile_tools_is_about_to_…

    unionagainstdhmo,
    @unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

    Provided that the developer can either remove contributed code or seek copyright licences from every contributor it can be done. Whether this did happen or not is unclear, the developer appears a little arrogant about having written the majority of the code, showing little appreciation towards minor contributors. We cannot tell whether the contributors gave permission for their code to be re-licenced or if their code was removed.

    Personally, when contributing to GPL projects I would expect that this kind of thing wouldn’t be possible. Using the GPL is a very philosophical choice of licence and is a move to say that you really care about your users

    ReversalHatchery,

    Over the years there have been a few times I tried to communicate with the developer, and he was always arrogant.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    yeah tibor was known for that

    DuskyRo,
    @DuskyRo@lemmy.world avatar

    For everyone still using Simple Tools apps, switch to Fossify it’s a fork that has all that crap removed

    TurtleTourParty,

    So far I only see Gallery, File Manager, and Calendar on IzzyOnDroid. Hopefully SMS and Contacts will be added soon.

    rzlatic,
    @rzlatic@lemmy.ml avatar

    dialer app is released too.

    Salix, (edited )
    fmstrat,

    You can use Obtainium instead of F-droid. You can install Izzy, FD, or even better, direct from GitHub and other repos instead.

    Apollo2323,

    Wait what happened I am lost? Are they bad apps now?

    sadbehr,

    Yea. They got bought by a bad company.

    Kolli,

    Rather it was sold to a bad company.

    The dev will have hard time getting anyone trust him anymore.

    Salix,

    Link for others:

    github.com/FossifyOrg

    helenslunch,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Not removed, it was just never added.

    DuskyRo,
    @DuskyRo@lemmy.world avatar

    True

    redsquirrel,
    @redsquirrel@lemmy.ml avatar

    ugh.

    I think a good way to avoid this for any other app in the future is to just use alternativea found on fdroid.

    … And disregard the rest :D

    BlueGlasses,

    A fork is currently being worked on, called fossify.

    For now we have fossify gallery and calendar

    greencactus,

    RIP Simple mobile apps. You were amazing while you lasted.

    rzlatic,
    @rzlatic@lemmy.ml avatar

    there are forks of code before the sellout and the releases are already out. use fdroid or obtainium. github.com/fossifyorg/

    greencactus,

    Yeee, I use the F-Droid version, so they’re clean.

    Still a shame though…

    MNByChoice,

    Not really the focus here, but Google could really improve those listings by providing some guidance as to what permissions are actually required for certain tasks.

    I am not certain I would know if am SMS program needs full Internet access or not.

    (I get in this instance everything added is bad.)

    merde,

    strangely, you need “internet” for mms so, yes, sms app needs full internet access

    TxzK,

    Simple Contacts and SMS were the only simple apps I’ve been using. Fortunately I’ve found Connect You, which does both. So goodbye simple

    CalicoJack,

    The Fossify forks of simple apps should be coming soon too, if you want to stick with something familiar. They’ve already released their calendar, gallery, and file manager, the rest should be ready pretty soon.

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