Thing I hate most about Lemmy is users never miss a chance to shit on the US for absolutely everything. Your employer needs this info anywhere you work worldwide, this is not US abuse thing. Her company sold to a US company and they had the AUDACITY to ask for her basic information? Wow, US has REALLY gone too far this time, right comrades??
It’s pretty normal for the company you work for to have your name, address and DOB.
I’m all for protecting your privacy and online anonymity to the max but when it’s literally the company you work for that need the most basic information, which they do need for a variety of reasons to keep you employed, that’s a little too far IMO.
My man if you think the US government don’t already know (or at a minimum could easily find out) your name, age, address & where you work if you’re not a goat farming hermit in Tibet or something then I have bad news for you
First, I am not a male. Second, I do believe the US gov has my data. Every single piece that is floating out there. I will still not share it with them, may there be the odd chance they do not yet have it.
it depends on where she lives. This is not the U.S. and it’s not that easy to fire people with unjustifiable reasons.
She may not want her information to be stored on servers in U.S. and if she’s fired for refusing to do just that, it may easily become a problem for the company.
if op can prove that her apprenticeship is terminated for refusing to share her personal information on U.S. servers, like i wrote, it would turn into a greater problem than keeping op’s apprenticeship and respecting her European rights
did i just write the same comment with modified wording?
she just needs to “know her rights” and remind what her rights are
Nope. At least not in my country. There is 3 months “apprenticeship” where either employer or employee can terminate the contract without any reasoning. One hour you’re employed, the other you are not. Is it because boss did not like your face? Could be and it still would be legal… So the same also applies to refusing to share info to US, no need to prove anything to anyone, you’re just fired.
I think you’re reading too much into this. They are likely legally required to hand over a list of their employees to the US government. Like, if sou really don’t want them to do that, your only other option is quitting on the spot (or refusing and being let go, in case that makes a difference for things like unemployment benefits in your country).
Everything they’re asking for is pretty typical for the IRS (and probably a handful of other workplace-related departments). If you’re really that uncomfortable giving them less information than is required to get a driver’s license, then I think you know what your only choice is.
been using it since the pandemic and it is all good. i started with xubuntu but had problems with R after an LTS update (in 2020 i think). looked for an easy to install xfce alternative - tried mx linux and havent had a problem since.
Been using it on all 3 of my machines for the last few months. I used to always end up back on Mint but about a year ago that started crapping out on things. MX just works for me. One thing about all distros (that I’ve tried anyway) lately, is that they don’t see the wifi card in my small Beelink PC. So it’s plugged in. Windows did see it, but I wiped that and installed Linux not long after I bought it. Had a couple of issues with KDE and it wouldn’t wake from sleep so back to XFCE. Not too heavily customised but it seems to be a keeper for my main machine - the Beelink. I have a Lenovo Ideapad that currently has Manjaro on - might try vanilla Debian on that. The other machine is an ancient HP laptop - MX XFCE will be staying on that until it craps out for good.
I am not an expert, but chat control and interoperable protocols are two different things, aren’t they? With stopping chat control you wouldn’t stop the law that’s restricting signal’s e2e-problem.
Edit: As far as I can tell after searching a bit, interoperable protocols will be requiered by the DMA, but only for plattforms. So you seem to be right, that chat control will be the big jeopardy for smaller ones like signal.
Chatcontrol, the mass surveillance law, leads to the breaking of end-to-end encryption. Signal would have to follow this.
The Digital Markets Act, enforces the interoperability of major messengers with other messengers. Signal does not have to follow this because it is not a "Gatekeeper."
I have little to comment on regarding the motivation for your post – I am not up to date with what’s happening in the EU – but, for an encrypted messaging-app alternative to Signal, I can recommend Matrix.
Works great for me. I’m running mx23 after running mx19 for a few years.
I hope mx23 is better with updates, or making easier to update, as updates broke in mx19 not long after I first installed it. My only complaint. Otherwise great.
I think Signal won’t leave unless they have to (have to meaning if the only alternative to leaving is to undermine user privacy/security which they will not do)
And if Signal has no other alternative than I can’t see how every other e2ee messenger wouldn’t also face the same difficult choice.
Edit: also what does exiting the EU actually mean? Like what would prevent you from just continuing to use the app?
I really can’t believe that chat control will come. But also I was wrong before and strange things happen… So there are applications that can’t really be considert providers of chat services. Like: Deltachat, Element, Conversations or Silence. Which use the protocol’s Email, Matrix, XMPP, SMS for which there are numerous providers. Therefore allowing you to simply send E2E messages without the provider having any influence.
Another problem with phone number requirement. EU phone number? Get out of here. Otherwise you’re right. With a vpn, what’s to stop you from continuing to use it.
Why would Signal stop accepting European phone numbers? It’s not like they want to leave the EU, they can just continue offering their services to EU users, but they can’t have servers or offices or any legal entities in the EU if they get banned. That’s not such a problem, you can access Signal over the internet from anywhere in the world, and if EU states start blocking Signal, you can still use Signal TLS proxies, good old VPNs or Tor. Edit: Signal is also banned in Iran, but they of course accept Iranian phone numbers, as they don’t impose the ban, the Iranian government does. You don’t really have to worry about this, I’m sure Signal will do everything in their power to continue to operate, even in jurisdictions in which it’s banned.
Based on privacyguides suggestion page itself, SimpleX chat would be the next in line you can try.
Briar is only for Android AFAIK. Matrix/Element does offer E2EE chat/vid but, based on the page, it’s not recommended for long term sensitive use.
Regardless, with the current situation against encryption, any app that stays will be subject to similar conundrum about leaving/abiding the law like Signal. The ones abiding may need more scrutiny, of course.
Briar can be distributed from device to device via a direct download and works without relying on a central server. You can even chat without access to the internet via bluetooth or external storage. I don't think getting rid of Briar is going to work... ;) What I'm trying to say is that Briar was also made with laws like these in mind, and it will be able to continue existing even if Briar would be forced to somehow disable downloads from the eu.
Briar is probably the best bet if we want something that works despite any governmental effort to break encrypted messaging.
I never really used it (I don’t have anyone around it interested to try it with me :'( ) but I would be interested to hear more about it if anyone has experience with it.
I’m quoting the page that I linked from privacyguides warning
These messengers do not have Forward Secrecy, and while they fulfill certain needs that our previous recommendations may not, we do not recommend them for long-term or sensitive communications. Any key compromise among message recipients would affect the confidentiality of all past communications.
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