WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

More like it’ll piss off the people who know that the delta didn’t become the symbol of all of Starfleet until after Kirk’s five-year mission. During TOS every ship had its own symbol.

VindictiveJudge,

Common misconception. There were several different emblems for different parts of the fleet, but each ship did not have a unique emblem. Someone from the costume department assumed that each ship had a unique emblem and one episode had it wrong, but we also have the memo telling them to not do that again.

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PelicanPersuader,
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A friend of mine created similar detailing on the leather jacket they made. It involved hand-cutting tiny deltas out of plastic, adhering it to the jacket, then painting it with some kind of leather protectant to create the embossed effect. They’re not sure how well it will hold up over time but it looked great on first wear.

Doxin,
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I mean you can just run gold t-shirt foil through a plotter and get pretty much that exact effect. It’d still be a massive pain in the arse to get the waste removed and the pattern applied, but nothing that’s outside the realm of capability for cosplayers.

mindbleach,

Mask and spray paint, maybe?

Rubber molding is probably the least-bullshit way to get it exactly right. Press or roll a bunch of little divots into some reasonably firm material you’ve made damn sure is level, pour in dark latex, get a thin sheet of flexible material with a bunch of bumps. Try to dip that bumps-down into a very shallow pan of metallic paint. Any goofs can be touched-up by hand.

The quick way is to run a paint roller over some bubble wrap.

mindbleach,

Seriously though, if you spray-paint bubble wrap black, then run a sponge of gold paint over top, that’ll just about do. I’d only worry about the spray paint somehow melting the thin plastic… and the inevitable damage to all your shiny bumps.

Do pre-strung sequins come spaced-out? I am unclear how those work. If their orientation can be fixed then you could get a little tool and snip each circle into more of a Pac-Man shape.

Oh - “honeycomb sequin” might do. Gold on black, then delete the bottom of each sequin.

aeronmelon,

This was a feature of the Kelvin uniforms in the first two movies. Including the undershirts.

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Stamets,
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I actually forgot about that somehow. I guess just because I saw Discovery far more.

aniki,

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    Eh. Not a huge fan of the ‘Nah, not canon’ stuff, jokes or otherwise.

    SARGEx117,

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    And I don’t. When you start deciding what is and isn’t canon all by yourself you end up fracturing the community to an enormous degree. Look at Star Wars. That entire community is filled with constant toxicity because of how hateful people get over disagreements of what is and isn’t real or what does and doesn’t “understand Star Wars”.

    The behavior fosters nothing positive because there is nothing positive about the basis of what you’re doing. If you are ignoring canon and saying “They don’t get it” then that’s inherently negative. Everything from then on is based off of a bitterness and hatred about what came before. You will always descend and spiral into some depressing group of people who are now believing themselves to be the sole deciders of what is and isn’t canon because they are the only ones who could possibly understand what (input thing here) truly stands for and is about.

    What you’re advocating for is just gatekeeping but about canon instead of fans. It’s… really gross behavior and frankly egotistical. Something can be canon without you liking it. Simply because you disagree with it doesn’t give you the right to say “Oh, no, I’m ignoring this as canon because it doesn’t fit with what I want” while engaging with the fandom as a whole. If you don’t like it and want to pretend it doesn’t exist, fine, but when you start going into full on discussions and injecting that bitterness and cynicism into it? That’s just repugnant.

    I’ll be avoiding that like the plague, thank you very much.

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    What an astounding statement from a Star Trek fan. The show stands for peace, love, equality, nah. Fuck that. Hate everything around you and project negativity into every aspect of a discussion.

    Wow. Have fun with that.

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    Neither of you were joking. You’ve both doubled on that position so you can’t fall back on the “Oh I was kidding” explanation here. Especially considering that within a couple of minutes of posting that comment, every single recent comment or post I made was randomly downvoted.

    Moreover, you’re both desperately attempting to move the goalpost here. You never started this as a debate about the art. You openly, both, started saying that the people behind it didn’t understand Star Trek and therefore it wasn’t canon. If you wanted to actually discuss the art you would have done so honestly and genuinely, not try to shoehorn it in after the fact and claim that I’m trying to stifle critiques. No. You both came at this in a hostile and hateful fashion and are shocked that someone has dared to point that out. You never said this was about the art. Don’t try and pretend that’s what you’re doing now.

    Call me a dick all you want. I’ve seen what makes you cheer and I couldn’t give less of a replicated tribble about your boos.

    I wish you both all the best but I’m going to take my leave here and just avoid the both of y’all from now on. I have no interest in being around such dishonest, disingenuous, negative, cynical and hateful behavior. Take care.

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  • June,

    This wouldn’t be super difficult with a vinyl cutter. The placement would be the most challenging part which just takes some practice and patience.

    Aesculapius,
    @Aesculapius@kbin.social avatar

    The new uniforms have something like that too:
    Command
    Science
    Coms/Engineering

    howsetheraven,

    Haven’t watched the show yet but that’s some Harry Potter looking shit.

    Stamets,
    @Stamets@startrek.website avatar

    Yep! That’s what I meant with SNW keeping the detail in. It’s not quite as obvious as the DSC gold on navy but it’s a really really cool touch and update to the classic design.

    Thisfox,

    That looks like machine embroidery with metallic threads to me. Can already imagine how you would program the machine.

    frezik, (edited )

    No, it’s not threads. Here’s a closer picture: makingitsew.com/…/illustrator_command_ops_pattern…

    They might use some kind of mask to spray something on. I tried to replicate it by printing TPU to fabric, but TPU can be hard to work with for such fine details and consistency.

    Ensign_Crab,

    They want cosplayers to advance the state of the art by finding a cheaper way to do shit like this.

    setsneedtofeed,
    @setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

    3D print a roller with the pattern and then roll it over very thin eva foam. EZ.

    gregorum,

    Screen printers of the world unite!

    MyFairJulia,
    @MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

    Can you hear that, costume designers? This is the sound of my 3D printer! It says „I‘ll have these deltas printed in no time.“

    Xanthrax,
    @Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar
    dejected_warp_core,

    Now that you mention it, a 3D printed roller with the necessary pattern could be used to “print” that pattern on fabric.

    Stamets,
    @Stamets@startrek.website avatar

    God I wish… There are a couple things I’ve wanted to make with a 3D printer. MY NEED IS MIGHTY.

    Zehzin, (edited )
    @Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

    I just got one real cheap and I’m having a great time with it. There are also services you can use that mail the prints for you

    thisbenzingring,

    Find one used and be willing to tear it down and put it back together. Print extra parts once you have the process down. Prusa has kits if you’re willing to pay for a premium. Both assembled and built it all from parts.

    Good 3d printers will have good instructions for repairs. Putting it together from parts is what you should really consider doing. Because 3d printers have a lot of movement and that needs to be corrected at times. If you spend the initial time to assemble it, breaking it down to fix something isn’t something to stress about.

    Either way it’s a rollercoaster of an experience. Once you feel like you’re comfortable doing the first prints, you will look deeper into the abyss…

    twinnie, (edited )

    Most people don’t understand how basic 3D printers are. They’d be way better if it wasn’t for all the 70s patents holding them back for decades.

    lemmyman,

    1989 patent by Stratasys

    grue,

    ↑ This guy RepRaps.

    cynar,

    See if you have a makerspace or a hacker space near you. They are amazing for access to geeky tools, and knowledge.

    Donjuanme,

    Some public libraries have them on site.

    Ensign_Crab,

    If I had to guess, I’d say they probably used screen printing.

    enki,

    I’d wager you’re right, the lines to the right of the deltas flex with the uniform, so they may have used a metallic puff ink screen printed on.

    frezik,

    I’ve actually been working on a similar thing for the SNW uniforms by printing direct to fabric. First tried TPU, but it’s hard to get a consistent pattern of some of the fine details. Some of them come out better than others. Then tried a transparent PLA–the emblems are small enough that the flexibleness of TPU shouldn’t be necessary–but it didn’t stick very well.

    So they’re either using a very carefully calibrated 3d printer (and this is the first time I’ve worked with TPU), or it’s a different technique entirely, like a mask.

    Full details of SNW uniforms for cosplay, for those who are interested: makingitsew.com/starfleet-duty-uniform-skant-vari…

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