Better Europe, anyone?

I saw @ledlecreeper27 's post and wound up making a larger version of it (with my own changes)

Update- wound up making a expanded version

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/d50ac600-ca0f-4dca-a26d-c6dbbb1e22a4.png

and a notion of how it would look amidst a better world (not overly serious, borders subject to change) https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/3ae6f59d-3a1a-4558-90dd-5b884ee3d144.png

space_comrade,

I’m sorry but this is just complete nonsense. Sami people getting their own state would be cool I guess but otherwise this is just an arbitrary clusterfuck, especially the balkans.

SadArtemis,
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FWIW it was totally meant to be a clusterfuck and a (partial) shitpost in the Balkans. Russia, Belarus, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and even Moldova and Transnistria all took big happy bites out of Ukraine for instance. And Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, and Yugoslavia all took bites out of Croatia as well- and then there’s Hungary and Yugoslavia biting bits off of Romania…

The intent was always to create a EU/NATO screw, and to play different member states off each other, making a scenario where there could be nothing to be done for certain states, but stewing in bitter impotence.

ProfessorOwl_PhD,
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Yorkshire would absolutely mandate its own independence if Lancashire got theirs.

SadArtemis,
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True. And I’m all down for that, too. Lancashire got independence as-is to have a nice little land bridge going straight from Cornwall, to Wales, up to Scotland without passing through England at any point of the journey.

SpaceDogs,
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Can I ask why Lisbon is it’s own thing?

SadArtemis,
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Because it’s funny. And Portugal being left alone (other than the loss of the Algarves and various islands) didn’t seem fair

SpaceDogs,
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That’s fair lol. The Açores are finally free!

jabrd,

Virtually every large nation should be cracked up as well if you want to follow through with the logic. The amazonian basin would be a series of micro states. China has what like 50 recognized minority ethnic groups within its borders

SadArtemis, (edited )
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But that’s not what I want, nor what I’d find funny- it would be wholly counterproductive, as it would just leave Europe on equal footing with the rest of the world.

If anything, the next step I’d take would be creating more large federations and supranational unions, though sadly these wouldn’t be very realistic. A United Arab Republic stretching from Mauritania to Oman, the return of the Soviet Union, or Mexico’s historical borders, the East African Federation or some unions of the Congo/DRC, Burkina Faso/Mali/Niger, or Maphilindo… maybe even the dreams of pan-Africanism manifest as some “superstate Africa” or hell, some holy trinity of the Soviet Union reborn, China, and India all holding hands, singing “kumbayah,” and delivering a spanking for the Anglosphere.

If it made any sense whatsoever (sadly it doesn’t), I’d make a “Celtic union” featuring Ireland, Scotland, Wales, the Manx, Cornwall, Brittany, and Galicia as well- or I’d make a true Yugoslavia stretching from Slovenia to Bulgaria, or better yet a Balkan union like was historically proposed, with all the south Slavs, Romania, Hungary, Greece, and Albania- hell, bonus points for Cyprus and Turkey as well. Or I’d revive al-Andalus, but this time with all the other Maghreb states in a union. Or of course, the most ideal borders would simply be an entirely Soviet Europe.

The whole point is an (entirely and completely deserved, but also hypothetical shitpost of a) western Europe screw.

jabrd,

Oh I thought we were fucking around with taking national liberation to its logical conclusions and breaking things up into as small of chunks as possible. Didn’t realize it was a piss take in the other direction

SadArtemis,
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With me it’s always a piss take in the other direction 👍

REEEEvolution, (edited )

The US and Japan look interesting. Is that a split Philipines I see? Did the prison colony become more or less cringe? India also seems different.

edit: You cheeky bastard! You split Germany up even more, but Swabia still has to suffer Western Germany.

SadArtemis,
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Prison colony definitely became less cringe. As for Swabia, my bad lol, I’ll deal with it when I eventually get to another iteration

ledlecreeper27,
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Why doesn’t the UAR include all Arab countries?

SadArtemis,
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The map was made with “drawing borders on the present (2023) world” in mind, admittedly. So I simply didn’t think to include them for similar reasons to why I didn’t include all of former Yugoslavia, or remade the Soviet Union… Egypt and the Gulf presumably would need a lot of time to settle into the idea (Jordan, Lebanon, and Kuwait would too, but it “works”)

kig_v2,
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Tsh. Nearly the whole continent needs “undergoing denazification” subtitles. 😅Otherwise amazing!!

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