This is a chance for any users, admins, or developers to ask anything they’d like to myself, @nutomic , SleeplessOne , or @phiresky about Lemmy, its future, and wider issues about the social media landscape today....
I’ll say this is really clunky to do and often means being redirected to that instances site where you are no longer logged in. Mobile apps mostly solve this themselves, but its sometimes a pain on desktop. I’d like the ability to somehow group similar communities, but I’m fine if its like Multireddits or playlists on the user end.
When do we get advanced moderation features? And for example the ability to block all users from a single instance to prevent for example brigading? I mean for the user, so we don’t have to rely on defederation so much.
Are you planning to revamp defederation? I mean it’s rather complicated the way it works and the triangle that is the user’s instance, the other user’s instance and the instance the community is located.
What about features like automatically kicking of moderators / revoking their ownership. In the early days of the Reddit exodus, some people reserved lots of communities just so they’d be the owner of the community, but they don’t do anything with it. I think admins mostly already dealt with that. But there are ideas floating around to migitate for things like that and other common annoyances. I think good moderation is key (and the tools that go with that and the whole architecture of the platform should favor a good atmosphere.)
For migration we recently added a feature to export your user data. But “real” migrating accounts is something I put on our “todo” list, though it probably also first needs a proposal to define how it should work exactly (should it still work when the original instance is down?) As soon as we start giving users more control over their private key issues start appearing like not having any infrastructure for key rotation / revocation. Without that it will only work when the original instance still exists.
I’m not sure if by tagging users you mean linking / mentioning them? Or adding tags to them like you can tag posts / users on other platform. For tagging in general there’s a pending proposal github.com/LemmyNet/rfcs/pull/4 . So far it focuses on post tagging though to reduce the scope. I think the goal is going to be to start with one kind of tagging and add more kinds of tagging later.
For improving cross-instance linking (both communities, posts, and users) we also have a open milestone. There’s a few spitballing issues about it, but no real concrete proposal on how to build it yet.
It feels like no matter where I turn some septuagenarian, or older, is making life miserable for myself and others. Usually these are older white Christian conservatives, obsessed with a delusional sense of reality that no longer has a basis in fact, or perhaps never did....
I don’t have plans to block any. I’ve already blocked the active communities in some of the instances I might consider blocking in whole to the point I never see posts from those instances anyway as well as any individual problem user I run across. I don’t really see a reason to block an entire server because even the worst places have some good people, just like all the best places still have some shitty people. Unless the instance itself was dedicated to CP or something.
Beehaw does the same. I’m not sure if that’s been the case in our instance. I don’t inherently disagree, but I’m not 100% sold either.
If there’s a clearly bad/misinformed/rude take, they simply don’t get voted on. They rarely have more than the single 1 vote of their terrible opinion/sharing.
It’s common to see +10 to +30 on a positive comment, with the comment it’s responding to at 1.
I don’t disagree that it could be a bad thing, but I think it’s about the community and its practice surrounding it as well. So far in my experience on the instance I participate in I’ve seen it be effective.
Also I’m not sure if this is a thing on Lemmy but on reddit there were downvote farmers. Downvoting could also actually encourage people to perform these terrible comments to accumulate as many downvotes as they can. Downvoting disabled removed this problem in its entirety. Reddit has this issue long before some of its other problems and it has only grown since, up til I left. I don’t know what the state of it is now, and I’m not sure how big of an issue it even is on Lemmy. It comes down to finding the line between what is preferable.
All in all, I think there are good and bad things about not having a downvote. I do think downvote disabled helps some aspects (engagement, active/trending posts) but it could also negatively influence federated content (spam, bad actors). I don’t think a comment being at -30 is any more telling than the same comment at 1 when it’s surrounded by +30 upvoted comments. However, if someone actively sought out getting downvoted, that can no longer exist.
IMO trading having bad comments be visibly negative in order to prevent the downvote farmers is a reasonable exchange
Ive been in a s4s with a guy for a few years after chatting on a reddit share for share community and he went dark a few weeks back so I’m looking for a new s4s partner to help bridge content....
See the pinned post in !communityPromo for some tips on finding communities. If there isn’t one that fits, this is probably the best instance for you to make that community
A dollar at a time … I’m willing to give or donate a dollar, two dollars or even five at a time … if we all did that with a popular creator, they’d easily be able to reach a lot of money in a short time.
I donate to wikipedia, Open Source Software projects I use, firefox, thunderbird, ubuntu (although I am getting skeptical about this one) and other linux projects … on top of that I send funds to creators, app developers and lemmy instances and other fediverse projects and those people who maintain the software, servers and communities in the fediverse
In all, I probably spend about three or four hundred dollars a year or more to these projects … but I know that for the majority of them, the money is going to people that need it … not to people who just want to add to their wealth after never contributing anything of value other than their ownership of someone else’s work.
And if we all did this as users across the board … these small content creators would have more than enough to sustain themselves and continue creating and maintaining these projects
I realise it’s Lemmy so while the majority of my comments are sharing information or suggesting people consider and respect other perspectives, at least one person will slice it up, misconstrue it, go hard on straw man fallacies, and then try place me in a tribe they’re at war with, all the while doing their best to appear righteous. Suddenly I am a person that has these wild opinions and thoughts I didn’t even know were a thing. Some of the effigies created are disturbing and it’s a concern that people’s minds do that, and they’re oblivious to it and therefore their behaviour toward others.
Bonus points if they actually agree with me without noticing—happens a lo— because reading and digesting comments isn’t something people do on a platform that reinforces tribalism by design (instances, communities, anonymity). Assuming agenda, bias, or opinion and never input, discussion, or information, is a trait of a Lemmington. The cascade runaway of pointless voting systems are a controlling factor. The opportunity to feel like Jesus to four other users, always just around the corner.
So I post it anyway because I don’t give a shit and, anthropologically, it.clearly fascinates me. Plus I don’t want the eggshells of people that have socially stunted themselves to impact my liberty to discourse. At the least they may manage to pull their head out of their arse and learn to respect other’s.
lemmy.ml is the home Instance of the devs. I’m not sure which community over there would be best though, I don’t think they have a dedicated feature request one.
Seems like there a couple of tech support communities already like that. Endless posts all made by different accounts from the same instance, constantly asking for help with Apple products or wifi 24/7.
There’s like, one conservative community on one instance. And it’s like five people who get clowned on for making hilariously stupid and fallacious comments. They’re outnumbered in their own communities.
These are supposed to generate an instance agnostic link regardless of who clicks it. That means they’ll go to their instance’s version of your page, which means they can subscribe or whatever with their logged in account. Rather than going to an entirely different instance, then having to manually search for it in their own instance. However, the caveat is that not all apps have adopted these links - they work on the website, but not all of them work in Jerboa, for example.
There’s also @user@instance, this doesn’t automatically make a link but if you start typing it (on the website) then you’ll get a popup window with usernames. When you select this you’ll generate the code @user@their_instance. This links to the user’s instance, not the viewer’s instance, but it also sends a mention to the user. So if you reply to another user and mention them, they’ll get a notification. I think you can also fiddle with the link text with like [link text](https://their_instance/u/user) and it should still send a mention, but haven’t tested it.
I didn’t say “defederate them”; I said that I didn’t know why other instances were defederated when that instance is worse. I intentionally didn’t say defederation is bad or good because that’s irrelevant.
Also, different people have different views on defederation and its relation to the Fediverse. In my experience, curating away from content harmful to your users is important to creating healthy communities.
Good point :) Here’s the blurb from the pinned post in !communityPromo
A great way to find lesser known communities is to look at the /communities page on an instance. For example: lemmy.ca/communities
🌐 Instances to look through
pangora.social (NEW): Great way to find instances related to a particular topic. This is also great for picking an instance when first making an account/moving accounts.
If the instance I started my community on shuts down, then the whole community is gone. Is there anything I can do as a mod to prepare for this so I can transfer everything onto a new instance? Or is everything lost if my instance shuts down?
Can’t answer it but isn’t the whole thing backed up (synced) to other instances? If I’m browsing lemmy.world community on my lemm.ee account, I’m actually only fetching data from lemm.ee. Only downside is that if there is an instance started after the community got lost, it will not have that community synced.
This is a big one. There were some contributions from either instances or bots on my feed I didn’t like that I just blocked, and my feed is fine now. No need to ask for defederation of the whole community when you can do it yourself.
Maybe advertise your idea to the right people… But you’re right. Starting a new communitiy takes some effort and more than one person to get things rolling.
Frankly, you're incorrect. It's an incredible pain in the neck to try and deal with the Fediverse beyond local content.
What issues have you specifically noticed with this? I've only seen a few - the main one is sometimes it's hard to find magazines from elsewhere unless you already know the name of it and the instance it is on (but folks are creating websites to help others find this, so this is a problem being solved right now). The other one is that sometimes federation is slow, so posts and comments on the hosting instance can take hours to show up on another one. But there are technical fixes to this as well (I'm thinking that maybe the next version of activity pub should include a pull action, so other instances can ask for the latest content on behalf of their users from the hosting instance).
Without better community merging or centralization, browsing instances becomes no different than dealing with having mail on three or four non-multiplexed BBSes,
I wasn't around this far back. Can you elaborate on this a bit? What's the issue with "having mail on three or four non-multiplexed BBSes" ?
or talking on forums before we had tabbed browsing. It's incredibly annoying, and pushes people right back to centralized systems.
This I remember well. Sounds like you are trying to create an account on each instance and are constantly logging out of one and into the next to keep up on the latest posts and comments. This .. is not really the way to do it.
Yes, active users continues to grow - on already dominant platforms. And by that I mean KBin.social as a platform,
Don't confuse terms. kbin.social is an instance, the platform is kbin the software.
I'd argue that this is a technically a different platform - microblogging vs what reddit/lemmy do. But by the magic of federation we get both in kbin.
or even Lemmy.ML.
There are problems here with this instance that go far beyond what you are saying. But that's the nice part of federation - even problematic owners can be dealt with. Can't say the same for a centralized service.
Yes, there's not a singularity yet,
Why use this term? What does it even mean in this context? A singularity is a term from physics and represents when the existing rules break down, like in a black hole (collapsed star).
but even this limited plurality shows that it's a pain in the neck to deal with the Fediverse as a whole, so pick your local poison and go for it.
Again, this suggests you don't really understand federation. Barring one problematic instance, there aren't any serious issues accessing all the instances you mentioned from, say for example, kbin.cafe
What is this about having to copy and paste a link to find subscriptions from other instances? I literally just pull up the community browser and set it to "all" and then search.
@HomerAtTheBat search for the community in the Magazines area of kbin and it will return you results from kbin and other instances (lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, etc.) magazines is what kbin calls communities.
Lemmy Developer AMA and Dev Update, 2024-01-26, 1500 CEDT
This is a chance for any users, admins, or developers to ask anything they’d like to myself, @nutomic , SleeplessOne , or @phiresky about Lemmy, its future, and wider issues about the social media landscape today....
Feeling the lack of moderation now Reddit? (lemm.ee)
Shocked Pikachu face meme.
How to cope with existing right now?
It feels like no matter where I turn some septuagenarian, or older, is making life miserable for myself and others. Usually these are older white Christian conservatives, obsessed with a delusional sense of reality that no longer has a basis in fact, or perhaps never did....
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Imagine only being allowed to upvote something? (sh.itjust.works)
This post was made by Fediverse gang.
is there a Plex S4S community
Ive been in a s4s with a guy for a few years after chatting on a reddit share for share community and he went dark a few weeks back so I’m looking for a new s4s partner to help bridge content....
If purchasing isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing (fosstodon.org)
I am ashamed that I hadn’t reasoned this through given all the rubbish digital services have pulled with “purchases” being lies.
Sneaking more Babylon 5 references into risa, please ignore (programming.dev)
Making my first Lemmy post because this moment in my DS9 rewatch made me think of you all....
At least you didn’t post it (i.imgur.com)
which sublemmy are for feature request ?
Which Sublemmy are for Feature requests for Lemmy ?
Pigeons (mander.xyz)
Don't be a no-poster (sh.itjust.works)
something to look forward to? (lemmy.world)
As of now I have approximately 1 user. (lemmy.world)
lol (sh.itjust.works)
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How can I back up a community I mod?
If the instance I started my community on shuts down, then the whole community is gone. Is there anything I can do as a mod to prepare for this so I can transfer everything onto a new instance? Or is everything lost if my instance shuts down?
What's the benefit of using Kbin over Lemmy?
I see a very small minority of people using Kbin, but I don’t understand why....
Is there an instance to request the creation of new instances?
For those of us that don’t want to become admins or mods....
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People in /r/redditalternatives are talking about a "Reddit 2.0" What website would fill that role? (kbin.social)
On Reddit at reddit.com/r/redditalternatives, people are talking about a "Reddit 2.0." What do you suggest?
I don’t understand people who say they can’t figure out Lemmy or KBin
Does federation have a bit of a learning curve? No doubt....