To simplify even more from a general anthropological perspective of many topics…
Tribalism is a reault of conservative values no matter how ethically good the cause or what those values may be. Not adapting to what’s socially going on, or doing things like responding to an oppressing tribe by using the same tactics of that tribe just creates discord. One need simply compare MLK to the Panthers. Same cause at the core, but entirely different values and ideology. And of course, tribalism is rife when there’s in-fighting of those that are ultimately wanting the same core outcome because it’s deteriorated to camp vs camp.
Lastly and most importantly, it gives bad reputation to the core idea and creates social opportunity to instill doubt with fallacy…
“They champion for this. It’s good.”
“Yes. But they also do this, so it cannot be good.”
“This is true.”
It’s not, but the average of our collective doesn’t think hard enough to consider such things. We fucking love a good flag and warcry; tribalism is in our nature and an old lingering detrimental trait that even the most progressive of intents can be snuffed out or tarnished by.
I don’t know the full details of the BP demise, but I imagine this general recipe we see countlessly in all history is not too far off.
Depending on the public restrooms, I tend to wash my hands before touching things downstairs. I shower and I launder; I don’t use my junk to touch everything through the day like I do my hands. As far as I’m concerned, downstairs is one of the cleanest parts of my body and I like to keep it that way, so washing hands after the fact is a near redundant action for my personal hygiene and a social courtesy for others’.
Fat’s really good at hiding features, so also people’s best features. Have had a few friends work hard to drop weight and my god there was some good looking people hidden under there.
After many years, I no longer have the jawline to envy in my group of friends. Turns out all along fuckin’ Andrew was hiding Brad Pitt under his double-chin.
I think it’s more like 5% are so bad, it’s enough to muddle over the average and make the average feel divine. I notice really good drivers almost as often and they’re a pleasure to be behind on a long drive.
I think their point is belief versus theory. One requires faith, the other thought.
It’s why it’s simulation theory and not Simulationism. People acknowledge it, but don’t follow it, nor believe it, since belief requires clearing unknown gaps with leaps of faith to reach an unknown destination. Theory seeks answers of the unknown with “could be this, could not be this” whereas belief is “it be this”.
This always points back to the paradox which all divinity falls into. The moment we know of a god to be real, it is old news and no longer divine. The next scientific step is “What made it so?” and moves right along to bigger things whether theists are on board or not.
Of the few words ending with -ism and -ist in science or theory, none have belief or faith.
Even the most apparent, such as the Big Bang Theory, are still marked a theory, after all. Believing in them—convinction without 100% knowledge—is foolish and closes doors of what may actually be truth.
A caramel macchiato? What is this madness? Must taste like a boxing match in your mouth.
E: Oh, I see. Americans have recipes for “macchiato lattes” and flavoured macchiatos seem to have way too much milk to be a macchiato, which is normally a damn powerful espresso. I think if I ordered that here, they’d confirm confused, and my face would implode. But I’ll try later today.
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I’ve gotten a type of product I didn’t know existed before, but it’s never been the brand that alerted me to it. From experiences, brands that advertise generally have the lower quality and less value for money product. Brands that don’t advertise but you frequently see mentioned are generally the top tier shit for quality and value and they don’t need to advertise.
It’d be nice to block URLs of sites with intrusive popups and.adblock popups. I hit back as soon as it happens, so it’s not like I use them.anyway. removing them from search results and.sucj would save time.
I do a lot with org-wide data, so yeah. Fucking pisses me off.
I won’t go into details, but me, a colleague, a mobile hotspot, and a friend kayaking 4L of wine in through flood waters to the balcony we were stuck on. Saved some lives getting medical records out to hospitals and got pay to just under 20K people, all be it a couple days late. Hey, we were knackered and the wine came on day 3 once we were done.
Redundancies for when power and internet issues occur, kids. Saves lives. Got my own shit going on during natural disasters. Don’t really feel like botching infrastructure because HQ is under and no one planned for it.
Ah. So the “left” aren’t social left, they just see money as the answer to all social progression too. Got it. Well that explains our current Western progress and predicament. Lot of growing up to do if, as far as social progression goes, money is seen as a power rather than a weakness. Ain’t no one in need getting any that way.
History repeats and we all stay the same. New generation, another dollar.
At least “eat the rich” makes more sense. Robin Hood would rob the guy and not socially recognise them as a king. More important things to do.
Edit: I actually expected more down votes than this (7) and was wanting some discourse. Anyone? I’m looking for someone to state what’s not already called out in that a core issue is the perception of monetary wealth being a controlling factor of social imbalance—which of course it is with a society of that perception.
You’ve all got bank accounts drained for the people, not your house deposit, right? Right? Sorry… Left? Left?
Well, actual left doesn’t base itself on economical attributes. So it’s interesting to see a meme go straight to wealth while claiming leftism. Part of being on the left is recognisimg wealth as a faux controller and issue. Actual left doesn’t socially want in on it too. Actual left would aim at rejecting an acknowledgement of wealth by reinforcing services and freedoms to all without requirement of wealth, thus diluting the importance and value of money.
This comic almost opposes that by weighing importance of wealth. It’s insulting to leftism by claiming “this is left”.
A lot of the replies seem to be the trending American ideas of leftism which are very new and very unique to a $27T GDP with stonks of social issues. Kind of trying to force the two to connect, but that’s not how leftism works.
Y’all can literally Google it right now if you need to know what being left is. It’s social equality you’re meant to be working on, not getting a piece of the pie. Recognising and blaming distribution of wealth is literally opposing leftism because it’s acknowledging and giving finance power. The comic is more “I feel left out” when it should be “your money is nothing”.
My opinion is left and it’s annoyed that someone would say the comic is left.
While the comic is focused on distribution and accumulation of wealth being an issue, actual left recognises finance as an issue. Society doesn’t require wealth for equality. People can be rich in leftism. Leftism is social. Social issues is what it addresses. Thinking “left” is somehow attached to finance is fundamentally anti-social. Thinking money should be better disteibuted and not hoarded by the rich is acknowledging money is power which is anti-social.
None of us with national healthcare systems got them by considering money and the rich and who has and who doesn’t have money. We got them by acknowledging health as a social issue. Money be damned.
None of us with nationally assisted higher education got it by considering money and the rich and who has or doesn’t have money. We got it by acknowledging education as a social issue. Money be damned.
None of us that with gun regulation got it by considering money and the rich and who has or doesn’t have money. We got them by acknowledging public safety as a social issue. Money be damned.
This comic… “Nah, it’s money, hey. That’s what’s stopping us. I’m left 👉👈” It’s kind of insulting to the ideology. And I expected backlash on here because Lemmy seems to be riddled with backseat leftists that don’t actually know what it is. By acknowledging money as some big value implies that when it comes time to pay for social equality, Lemmingtons and the author of this comic will be upset to be getting less money. That’s not an issue when money takes anback seat to social progression aka actual left.
States where the society views money as less important than social issues/equality already have and will continue to get progressive social benefits. You can’t put a value on something if every expects it to be free. Lack of wealth is not an issue when everyone expects things to be free. But by recognising wealth and pricetags does money become important and thus hoarded. Th cake isn’t money, it’s cake. You don’t need money redistributed for everyone to get cake when cake is expected as a social staple and offset by the society as a whole.
This is fundamental leftism. A society won’t achieve it if they’re focused on people having more money than them. “But how will I pay for cake if they have all the money?!” Uhhh, you don’t. You demand the cake and halt everything until you get the cake. Once everyone has cake, back to business as usual.
I can’t recall a single historical social issue that was resolved by acknowledging and redistributing wealth. Enough people just demanded it and social equality happened.
I see your point. However, you are still not understanding. Fair housing can’t happen if you think it’s about distribution of wealth. Stop thinking it’s all about money. It’s about social equality. The left would introduce rental caps, tenant benefits, rental assistance programs, more rights and benefits to prevent unfair evictions. But also improve housing for renters to have more equal stance to own instead.
This is what left states do. Left is not considering and focusing on redistributing wealth as the centre of social inequality since it is not a social issue. Money comes after. It is a result. If a self-proclaimed “left” is so obsessed with money, I question their concern of actual social equalities because they too are only thinking about the money and there’s no resolve in that.
You’re making bold assumptions and trying to place me in a tribe you see the world as—but I’m of none of the things you mentioned nor even close. You feel you can say that without much thought or concern though because you feel as though you’re protected in your camp, why would you declare it so loudly that I know where I am? The reality is, your camp is small, one of millions, and insignificant in global society and culture. You also clearly know as much about conservatism as leftism if you think anything of what I said was ideals or association of conservatism. This must be just what you’ve learned in your camp.
But, hey. You keep fighting that “us vs them”—whoever the fuck they are—thing you got going on. That’s the irony of your self-painted banner. It doesn’t help the world progress and encourages we remain conservative of its old social ways and setbacks.
Tribalism is for the old, the weak, and a disgrace on what we’re supposed to be and could be. The world’s long been too small for you to bark like a yard dog and be intolerant of everything that walks by. Maybe it’s time you start reading about the things you claim to hold so dearly. Or don’t. I’m a 4chan “conservative” after all. Nazi next, hm?
Rich people are the by-product of social inequality. The actual problem. Correcting these things would naturally dissolve the power of money since it devalues its place in society as it is less needed for basic social survival.
But in there lies the true issue. If no longer money—an artificial measure of tracking what is valuable in society—what is the next thing the same people will want to control? Our history is riddled with it. That’s the tricky part of we abolish money and it does sound awful nice like you say. Gold, water, people, currency, oil… It’s always something. But leftism looks to ensure things like this are avoided, not being side-tracked by trying to cure the symptoms. If you are a leftist, people wih absurd control of something (money in this case) are an indicatior equality has been neglected and there’s work to do. Step 1, look at what’s making them have so much control and start on all of those things. It’s not money. Money’s not even valuable to many of the left.
I see this comic and I don’t see leftism at all. I see someone upset about finance and doesn’t know what to do but blame a specific symptom of inequality impacting them. That’s not going to do anything and it’s not “left”. It indicates a value and focus for money that may even see them do the exact same thing if they amassed some, since it’s so important to them than much other else in the complexities of society, especially the actual problems causing it.
My triggering issue is it says “this is left” and “this is right” without sensing the irony. The money part is just…so primitive I couldn’t help myself. We see things on spectrums with many points peppered across for just a single individual. What upsets me is this primative two camp idea driving “Whatever I don’t like must be right/left” without actually understanding what these things are. It’s very clear of a naturally divisive society which is a breeding ground for social inequality. It smells distinctly US where almost many things (and historically so) are a really strong competition of one side versus another. Trying to drag leftism into that is actually opposing to its fundamental ideas. Neglecting the spectrum entirely is straight up regressive of social maturity and stability.
I don’t think many people on Lemmy actually know what they are except unhappy, and they are looking for comfort and hope in a home. But the principle ideas of leftism do not conduct itself this way, lest it never succeed in progression.
Edit: Also, I appreciate you sticking with me this far :) It’s okay if I’ve been exhausting enough now though. Exchanging thoughts and ideas is super fulfilling and we always get better for it, even if we don’t think anything’s sticking.
I realise it’s Lemmy so while the majority of my comments are sharing information or suggesting people consider and respect other perspectives, at least one person will slice it up, misconstrue it, go hard on straw man fallacies, and then try place me in a tribe they’re at war with, all the while doing their best to appear righteous. Suddenly I am a person that has these wild opinions and thoughts I didn’t even know were a thing. Some of the effigies created are disturbing and it’s a concern that people’s minds do that, and they’re oblivious to it and therefore their behaviour toward others.
Bonus points if they actually agree with me without noticing—happens a lo— because reading and digesting comments isn’t something people do on a platform that reinforces tribalism by design (instances, communities, anonymity). Assuming agenda, bias, or opinion and never input, discussion, or information, is a trait of a Lemmington. The cascade runaway of pointless voting systems are a controlling factor. The opportunity to feel like Jesus to four other users, always just around the corner.
So I post it anyway because I don’t give a shit and, anthropologically, it.clearly fascinates me. Plus I don’t want the eggshells of people that have socially stunted themselves to impact my liberty to discourse. At the least they may manage to pull their head out of their arse and learn to respect other’s.
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