I’d love to see a breakdown of those who didn’t get the jab and those who did for deaths during the first 6 months from covid. Hint: It’s already been done and those without the jab died at 3x the rate.
Just wanted to add that it has gotten better. I mean, now we even have straight queens who damn well know how to serve, sew, and read. Unthinkable back in the day!
I actually believe that this is one thing that Trump/Republicans saved us from. In the very first week of lockdowns I remember a few news stories of police really overstepping by pulling people over and demanding to know that they were doing outside. It didn't last long because the economy obviously comes first over lives. It could have really devolved into extreme facism.
The cops are fascists because they’re also mostly Republicans. Trump is a fascist. You’re saying the fascists saved us from extreme fascism? I’m confused lol
I’m on lemmy for a while now and this is the most American centric comment I have seen so far. There are authoritarian governments that used the pandemic to do shit but all stopped sooner or later. And many governments, left or right or what ever, overreacted at the start.
grasping the implication here is an extreme challenge. what are you suggesting? that individual cops were trying to go full-fascist and control the population by using the guise of a global pandemic to illegally stop and question citizens? if it wasn’t the government currently in power, then who was trying to go full-fascist? what entity between the government and police was it? and why was this only an american symptom when the pandemic was global?
all that to say - this take is complete nonsense and clearly lacks the application of the most basic of critical thought.
I also have someone like this in my distant family who thought Corona is a cold, that masks makes you unable to breath, that the WHO will take over the power of all countries, that the World Economic Forum in Davos will reset all financial markets to zero and that the USA will invade Ukraine to secure its bio-weapons laboratories.
You can imagine that family gatherings became fun from then on.
I don’t understand what these peolple were thinking. The government would never put human lives above the economy. Of course everything was going to reopen once the lives lost wouldn’t hurt the bottom line.
You should watch or check up on the inquiry. It was a complete shit show. All the senior people in the government all blaming someone else and Alexander DePfifel Johnson (Big dog) gives evidence tomorrow or later in the week and he’ll get ripped apart.
When we could watch graphs of country and region rates, the UK was showing good results from lockdown, then skyrocketing rates during the lockdown holidays
I must be bias because I grew up in peak ‘war on drugs’ times. Being young and impressionable I thought there was no way the government could possibly lose. Then they taught us about prohibtion. Then I found out everyone I knew smoked weed.
End of the day, anarchy already exists in the minds of anarchists. The government is inadequate when comes to policing individuals.
When it comes to changing societal norms, you always have to start at the social contract. Otherwise, all you have is a signed piece of paper.
My wife was working at an assisted living facility when those conspiracies were at their peak. She had a coworker who believed in it and tried very hard to convince the residents of the conspiracy too
Oh, they are still around. Now they are talking about people in their 20s dying from the vaccine. And there have been millions of young people (in Germany alone) who died because of the vaccine. The government just made the bodies disappear and payed their families off.
I wish I was joking, but no. This is the shit they believe. I hate every single amoeba on the right.
Yeah this one is more than a little irritating. I’ve encountered too many people who know someone who has someone in their life that was adversely affected by the vaccine. Heart attacks, strokes, nerve issues, whatever. But when you press them for the details there’s always something else, like the person has diabetes, had a bunch of age-related diseases, etc. But there’s no way those things had anything to do with their poor health…no, it has to be the vaccine. Or maybe the even got covid, but refused to get tested.
It’s the same problem I have with people who want me to fix their computer. Any issues that come up at any time in the future, no matter how much time passed or how unrelated it is, was caused by “whatever I did.”
No, Aunt Karen, the malware you downloaded is not from me restarting your Wi-Fi adapter 3 years ago.
And with these people any negative health issues that occur can only be attributed to vaccines.
someone in their life that was adversely affected by the vaccine.
There are rare side effects. When someone brings it up, it’s important to acknowledge it but qualify the risk. .0001% of heart problem or .1 % of death. Tell them it’s like driving without a seat belt because of the 1 in a million chance you get in an accident where the seatbelt traps you. Meanwhile 77% of all people have been in an accident.
I don’t deny that there are potential side effects. However, when one person knows multiple people who have suffered some ill effect it’s obviously not about the science. By that same token I could apply my logic that I know zero people who have had any serious side effects.
I actually just suggest that they drive without seatbelts seeing as the odds of getting in a serious accident are so low in their daily life if they want to refuse the vaccine based on potential side effects. Hemming and hawing usually follows.
Apparently doctors and nurses have been paid off to peddle this and it’s all part of a big global hoax.
Meanwhile my sister with $80,000 nursing student loans is like “Wtf where’s my money? You mean I nearly died working my butt off for nothing??” - 80 hours “full time” per week.
Also ignoring the fact that if even 0.001% of the global medical community has misgivings about accepting what I assume must have been an enormous bribe that we would have heard about it??
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