Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities...
some of those mods are likely thinking that moving would destroy the community they worked so hard to manage
they aren't wrong. It will massively deflate their community. That's an ineivtability of how lurkers on the internet work. They aren't there for community, they are there for easy passive browsing.
What can we do to help them transition?
"we" as in the common person? It won't be a fast track. There will need to be a steady supply of content for a certain topic, and a stream of discussion. Unfortunately the best way to help as a single person is to basically become that sweaty forever online person. The first step to the Network Effect is to generate enough content to engage with.
If "we" have developers or artists that can be one bigger step to help out. contribute to making apps and extensions to either bridge the gap or overcome current shortcomings of these federated instances. Even amongst techy communities there is a lot of confusion to how instances work. So some app to make it dead simple to browse and comment (while later allowing options for power users) is key. Sync committing to working with Lemmy/KBin is definietly a bit help.
Most of the rest is up to the instance admins. SEO, improving features, getting good moderatiors, etc. None of that is in out control, we can only give feedback
Personally, I prefer Lemmy over Kbin because I hate karma and reputation points. I do not want to worry about downvotes, and Lemmy feels so fresh. I can post things that will receive lots of downvotes and not need to worry about losing karma.
I do wonder though what a better alternative might be (and if this has been studied at all). It's fundamentally an issue with people being emotional and often quite bad at separating their own personal feeling from their voting. I know some platforms simply disable downvotes, which partially solves the issue, but at the same time, I think there is some value in communities being able to downvote spam or genuinely poor content. Maybe if you had to also make a comment - thus upping the amount of effort required - it'd be better?
Kbin does also have the quirk that votes are actually public, so you can actually tell if someone is following you around downvoting everything. That could potentially be seen as a rule violation and lead to being banned from an instance.
I created a community few days about combat footage. It got banned 12 hours later for violence. Now I can’t seem to create a new one. How can I fix this ?
I think it has someting to do with allowing NSFW content. Many instances do not want to host NSFW content, as it is too much effort to moderate. You should look for an instance where NSFW content is not restricted (I believe lemmy.world allows NSFW content) and try to create the community there.
Makes sense.
I even have an account on yours already and is actually the first one I made.
Choosing an instance has been the most awkward part yet. More easily accessible info on instances' admins, hosting situation, funding, etc. might help.
My first visit was very confusing because I tried browsing a community that had just defederated us, which really isn't too obvious as a noob. I registered on lemm.ee to see what beehaw was even about, and I'm going back and forth between the two homes trying to choose.
I very much like the /c/agora idea on sh.itjust.works so I'm definitely sticking around.
I think an important part is getting to know your instance's admin as a person, and I haven't really taken the time to do that.
See ya around
Completely agree. Funding and hosting situation are still very much in flux for most instances, and most instances are so new that admins haven't really had the time to figure out exactly how they want to run and organise things yet. Everything is very much in flux.
These are problems I think will go away naturally as things stabilize and clearer community identities, fundraising methods and organizational norms start forming.
This is a pretty bizarre question to me personally.
First of all, we don't have to do anything. If you mean you were wondering if people will lynch you for using emojis, no clue. Try it and find out.
Second of all, the whole "build my personality to fit in" is exactly backwards. The whole point of the fediverse, instances, etc is that you find a community to fit you, not the other way around.
Third of all, this isn't Reddit with tens of thousands of comments making anything more than a "yes" or "no" irrelevant. People actually have the time and space to consider things and answer them more fully here when there's less spam.
Finally, the whole idea of a "mob policy" sounds concerning.
As a long time Reddit user, there's something about Lemmy and the fediverse that feels really refreshing and new. I think it has to do with a few things......
I noticed two things, along with all the good answers in this thread:
There is no such thing as Karma, and I hope it will never be implemented into the fediverse. The reason is that on Reddit Karma was handled like a currency, an in order to obtain Karma, the general quality of the content declined, as a result of Karma-farming. Also it was used as a threshold for posting comments in certain communities. Imagine you could join an instance only when you have a certain ammount of a Karma equivalent. That is something I don't want to see.
At this moment there are mostly tech savvy users (former heavy Reddit users) here, who are interested in creating content and participation. Also these folks are helping each other. It feels like a little community. I think, the threshold to join the fediverse is still too high for the average mainstream user. Maybe it will be easier to get started when there are mobile apps.
We're not all trapped in the same building anymore. You can just move to a different instance and still have the same software experience but with the community you prefer.
Rather often, I see a post here with say 5 comments, but I only see one or two under the post. Why is this? Am I perhaps defederated from those posters' instance?
I saw it mentioned somewhere that when you see subscriber counts for a community those counts only reflect the amount of subscribers from your instance. At least that is the way I understood it. I know that's not related to comments but there seems to be some ways that the federation work that is not great. Could it be that the comments are from an instance that your instance has de-federated from?
Hello fellow lemmites. This whole reddit debacle is really tragic, and I’m looking for alternatives. Problem is, none of the alternatives have subs like r/buteyko or r/becomingtheiceman. Does anybody know of any alternatives with similar subs, if any exist?
It seems to me, you’re just not gonna find many of the niche type subs around - and then you’ve got parallel subs scattered around other instances. I’m still very new to this too but there is a sub called New Communities that is pretty active with new places to join:
True, but the amount of instances will probably scale too. You can have premium instances that cost a monthly fee, ones that solicit donations, maybe ones that run ads. But you'll also always have the passion project instances being ran for a specific community out of the kindness of someone's heart.
Everything needs to generate some sort of value - I imagine a lemmy instance would generate value for you in the form of learning, or maybe the sense of accomplishment from maintaining a community. That differs from how centralised social media generates value in the form of data or money which is usually at odds with the userbase.
However that etherum instance would have communities/"subs". You can "join"/subscribe to those communities to see them from your original instance.
You can see in my screenshot some posts. You can see that Raleigh has posted to Diggit. You can clic on that "Diggit", and you'll get to this : https://diggit.xyz/c/diggit
This is the Diggit community from the Diggit.xyz instance.
You can join that community by going to your instance search, and putting this link in the search : https://diggit.xyz/c/diggit or !diggit@diggit.xyz.
That way you will join that community.
By doing so with each community you are interested in, you can join the different communities from that instance, post to them, and interact with them.
Why do you have to do that? Because lemmy/kbin... Are hosted on different servers, which don't directly scrap all the communities on all the servers.
So until someone on that particular instance has subsided to a community, that instance won't see the community.
you can see what instances your instance vlemmy.net federated with at vlemmy.net/instances and yes diggit.xyz is currently there. you can find some of their communities here or paste a specific community URL from diggit.xyz/communities in your instance’s search box to cause it to federate if it isn’t yet.
i’m deleting this post now; if you have more support questions please use !lemmy_support
You can view if user created communites are enabled on your instance here; lemmy.ml/api/v3/site
That link outputs a wall of text, but all the Instance settings are at the top after "local_site". Optionally you can format the output with a json formatter like jsonformatter.org which makes the output easy to read.
In the case for lemmy.ml, you see ["community_creation_admin_only": true] which means users can not create communities. You can check other instances for one that does allow user created communities. Just replace the root name in that link and get the settings there.
The instance I'm on does allow user created communities. Some instances actually state their settings in the sidebar for convenience, the one I'm on does that.
In that case the admin of the instance you registered with has disabled community creation for some reason. You can either contact the admin where you registered, or sign up with another instance that does allow community creation
It depends on which instance you're a part of. Some allow you to make communities (lemmy.world for one) and others restrict it to only admins can make them (Beehaw as an example).
I think my favorite thing about Lemmy is that it feels like Reddit used to. Less negativity, more engaged users (I think). I know it will be fun to watch Reddit die, but if I put spite aside what I’m really mad at Reddit about is more about what Reddit became and maybe part of that is when the general internet user started...
I realize that instances are not magazines and so on, and this analogy has technologically weak comparisons, but I think the principle works.
I do think that we will start to see communities getting their own hosted instances. A light novel/manga I read has an entire instance devoted to communities about the series, and I've seen some chatter in the selfhosted community about making an instance for selfhosted/datahoarders/FOSS in general, though we'll see if that actually pans out.
I really like the model of a community of communities being in containerized into one shared, dedicated instance.
Lots of reddit will find themselves unwelcome in Lemmy and by various instance admins. They may make their own instances, but depending on the content that comes from them, they may even be defederated from ours.
Lemmy is community owned, community run, and community focused. There is no profit motive. There is no logic to keeping people on your instance or interacting with it who work to its detriment. Just having more people on your instance doesn't mean "one additional customer".
As there’s multiple instances for a similar topic, is there some subreddit that agreed to move to a specific instance and if so, is there a list tracking it? Thanks!
banning and defederating communities
Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities...
Call to action - renewed protests starting on July 1st (www.reddit.com)
The latest from /r/ModCoord.
What is your opinion about Lemmy not having karma but Kbin having reputation points?
Personally, I prefer Lemmy over Kbin because I hate karma and reputation points. I do not want to worry about downvotes, and Lemmy feels so fresh. I can post things that will receive lots of downvotes and not need to worry about losing karma.
My first community was deleted and now i can’t seem to create a new one. How long til I can create new one ?
I created a community few days about combat footage. It got banned 12 hours later for violence. Now I can’t seem to create a new one. How can I fix this ?
What's the mob policy on Emojis here on the fediverse?
Like a lot of people here, I'm coming from the rexodus and I was just wondering if we still have to lynch people using emojis in their comments?...
Why does Lemmy feel so fresh compared to Reddit?
As a long time Reddit user, there's something about Lemmy and the fediverse that feels really refreshing and new. I think it has to do with a few things......
Some posts show they have more comments than I can see
Rather often, I see a post here with say 5 comments, but I only see one or two under the post. Why is this? Am I perhaps defederated from those posters' instance?
Reddit alts with similar subs?
Hello fellow lemmites. This whole reddit debacle is really tragic, and I’m looking for alternatives. Problem is, none of the alternatives have subs like r/buteyko or r/becomingtheiceman. Does anybody know of any alternatives with similar subs, if any exist?
So how does lemmy make money?
I'm not seeing any ads, and these servers certainly have a cost.... So is this place entirely donation based, or what?
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Does anyone else hope the bulk of Reddit stays there?
I think my favorite thing about Lemmy is that it feels like Reddit used to. Less negativity, more engaged users (I think). I know it will be fun to watch Reddit die, but if I put spite aside what I’m really mad at Reddit about is more about what Reddit became and maybe part of that is when the general internet user started...
Is there a listing of which instance each subreddit moved to?
As there’s multiple instances for a similar topic, is there some subreddit that agreed to move to a specific instance and if so, is there a list tracking it? Thanks!
How do I reach the right people here on Lemmy?
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People of color / BIPOC / antiracist / decolonial communities?
Any communities or instances focused on non-white folks or information/news/organizing against racism and colonialism specifically?...
Kbin Cafe, a fun, general-purpose instance, is now open for registrations ☕ (kbin.cafe)
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