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AMDIsOurLord,

Which no, haven’t gone away as the technology advanced as many people would like to believe, we’re still using displays and networking and keyboards and mice.

Which X.Org was not designed to support.

AMDIsOurLord,

Sounds like a heap of crap. X.Org developers moved to Wayland, they were the ones who made it happen. Now, I wonder where this dude with his XOrg Forks and PhD and shit was during all that 15 years it took to conceptualize wayland.

You all need a lesson in taking everything people say, including and most importantly their qualifications with a huge grain of salt.

Wayland has been working perfectly for years now. Many of the supposedly “impossible to implement” functions of the old hunk of junk Xorg were either found to be bogus anyways or have been made available on Wayland.

Sincerely– Someone who’s been using wayland since 2016

AMDIsOurLord,

After finally realizing nobody is interested in EGLstreams, Nvidia seems to be on track to make their drivers less of a disaster for Wayland support, so thankfully it is bound to become better

I just want you to know, this isn’t a failure on anything other than Nvidia trying to force their own crap on everyone and failing

AMDIsOurLord,

Apparently their devs are aware of Wayland. Maybe someone even makes a Wayland-aware alternative like some apps had.

AMDIsOurLord,

They made Wayland the way it is precisely to NOT make the same mistake.

AMDIsOurLord, (edited )

This also depends on the desktop you use. GNOME is by far the most stable [In My Experience], and KDE spent the whole 5.x series getting their Wayland support into shape. What you’re describing could be XWayland failures (games don’t run on Wayland lol) and desktop environment bugs.

Depending on how long ago you’re talking about, your hardware, and your desktop of choice, things might’ve been improved a lot since the last time you used a Wayland session.

AMDIsOurLord,

XOrg is designed so a central server (mainframe) sends and receives data from smaller terminals, and that not only includes a heap of devices that haven’t been in use since the 90s it also has a ton of features that nobody uses. (See: X native fonts, X native widgets, X driver model…)

X’s way of handling events and sending draws to clients as such is somewhat convoluted. Once you start to really dig into it, it’s amazing how much people managed to stack on top of it until today.

Besides, modern day X over Network is a somewhat niche and possibly broken function

AMDIsOurLord,

Interesting, I saw they mentioned Wayland in their repo.

AMDIsOurLord,

They tried to force their own EGLstreams system on everyone and people wouldn’t have it

AMDIsOurLord,

Again, none of that is a failure of Wayland, it’s a failure of Zoom to run on Wayland. One day, and this is in the next 5 years, Wayland-only apps will refuse to run on X.Org and the situation will be reversed.

You can share screen perfectly fine under Wayland. Many apps use it fine, and even in case of Discord if you use it with a browser it’s doable.

No Wayland dev can fix an issue that originates from lack of app support. There has been many Wayland issues through the years and trust me, I know, but how do you expect them to fix Zoom? Acquire the company and take it behind the shed?

AMDIsOurLord,

www.phoronix.com/news/XDC2016-Device-Memory-API

From this, follow the chain of articles about it

Basically, everyone used (and uses) GBM, while Nvidia went and fucked around for a while trying to force EGLstreams, by not supporting GBM.

Well, people resisted this and finally Nvidia had to start adopting GBM in their drivers.

If Nvidia wasn’t such a fucking dick Wayland would be ahead by years now

AMDIsOurLord, (edited )

The interface exists. It’s up to zoom to support it. Why are you under the impression there is a technical issue? THERE IS NONE.

It’s up to Zoom to support the aforementioned interface.

Wayland’s display handling in this manner is for security, the user will be shown a permission request dialogue to let the app access the screen only if you permit it, it’s also disallowed from accessing anything except what you’ve given it permission to. This is not even a new concept, just not doable under X.

It’s also possible to create the lawless model of X under Wayland through a protocol if you desire to make one, but it makes little sense to throw away this better model just for the sake of some shitty proprietary apps who don’t care for Linux anyways

AMDIsOurLord,

lmfao Wayland is already ready for over 90% of use cases. Hell, GNOME has been wayland-default since twenty-fucking-sixteen if I remember my dates right. You’re overestimating the value X.Org provides.

AMDIsOurLord,

WHAT is up with that shit anyway? It’s so annoying

AMDIsOurLord,

OpenGL is actually older. Microsoft just spent a lot of time and money on DX adoption.

Overall, it’s the native API of Windows and that has the largest user base. On the other hand, many non-game professional apps use OpenGL/Vulkan

What is Something Scientific that you just don't believe in at all?

EDIT: Let’s cool it with the downvotes, dudes. We’re not out to cut funding to your black hole detection chamber or revoke the degrees of chiropractors just because a couple of us don’t believe in it, okay? Chill out, participate with the prompt and continue with having a nice day. I’m sure almost everybody has something...

AMDIsOurLord,

Right, all the people talking shit about dark matter in this thread surely all have 4 PhDs up their ass

No investigation, no right to speak

AMDIsOurLord,

Get on your bike and search wide for the motherfucker who asked

AMDIsOurLord,

2002 SIAPA Saba GTX

An actual death wagon shitbox that I absolutely adored and will always hate selling it off

AMDIsOurLord,

I always wondered what the FUCK are Discord doing with their shitty client app. Like, how bad is their whole Electron React bullshit going that their performance is so bad. At this point rewriting it in something native would be less bother than fixing this shit

[Video] Red Hat Is About To End Xorg: Is Wayland Ready? (www.youtube.com)

Come the next major release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat is officially dropping the Xorg package, whilst it’ll still be available in RHEL 9 until 2032 the countdown has begun, Xorg is on the way out. Are you and your software going to be ready in time....

AMDIsOurLord,

They’re the ones who’s engineers worked on Xorg, so yes, they decide it.

AMDIsOurLord,

Benchmarks are also usually very different from real world usage, tbh

AMDIsOurLord, (edited )

There’s no GUI, but following the wiki pages on BTRFS subvolumes you should be able to make a subvolume for those with like 2 simple commands (take a look at the man page for BTRFS subvolumes as well)

AMDIsOurLord,

Well, sounds like a setup or distro issue. It should work without problems on Debian/Ubuntu/Mint. Linux Mint even really supports it as a setup-less default with TimeShift

AMDIsOurLord,

ZFS has almost everything ever conceived for filesystems lol it’s a whole ass volume manager and filesystem into one

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